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Duncan Gibbs
12-07-2011, 07:09 AM
This first lot are from the Wooden Boat Shop at Sorrento, which is near the bay's entrance - the notorious Rip - where this big wide bay empties into (and fills from) Bass Straight. The majority of the vessels are couta boats that are raced as a class around the bay and also down on the West Coast as far as Portland, where Rob (Portland) lives. But there are a few clipper launches and this 1901 Logan A-Rater, Yeulba, in need of a syndicate to raise the money and ensuing TLC.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934973.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934984.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934985.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934972.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934986.jpg

I think the plan is to use Huon Pine in place of NZ Kauri.

I have to say I was really surprised at the scale of the yard. There were at least 70 or 80 boats all over 20' long and at least half of them were above 30'. The place was frenetic and one of the workers said they just couldn't get enough people to work there they were that busy.

Duncan Gibbs
12-07-2011, 07:18 AM
The other big project, which was well underway was a new smack styled yacht. Here they're mocking up the cabin top, which I assume will also have a wheelhouse.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934978.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934977.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934976.jpg

There were three big sheds and time pressed (as my parents and I had a ferry to catch) so I only snapped a quick shot of the third's interior. These clipper launches, a little reminiscent of Maine lobster boats, but with a development of a couta boat hull type are a speciality of the yard.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935022.jpg

This was on the other side of the same shed:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935015.jpg

And an old one on the lift:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935023.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-07-2011, 07:21 AM
Here's a bundle of general shots of the yard, just to give an idea of the scale of the operation:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934974.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934979.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934980.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934981.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934982.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935014.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-07-2011, 07:29 AM
And one more for good measure:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935016.jpg

And now for some couta boat close-ups. These vessels worked outside the bay in the treacherous waters of Bass Straight and had to transit the rip and time their passage with the tide and really pick their moment. With a good beam and nice deadrise form they are fast and seaworthy. Almost all of them are open boats, although a few do have small cuddies.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934975.jpg

This one was just stunning:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399934983.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935013.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935026.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935025.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-07-2011, 07:35 AM
Last shot of the boat in the above post:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935027.jpg

And one more beauty from the yard:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935024.jpg

And so we caught the ferry from Sorrento across to Queenscliff where we had lanch and then went down to Aireys Inlet to a holiday shack and meet the rest of the clan for Dad's eightieth. These next few were taken as we set off on the ferry:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935021.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935019.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935018.jpg

This is Storm Bay, the Tassie lobster smack that was restored by Tim Philips and he takes back down to Hobart for the Wooden Boat Festival:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935017.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-07-2011, 07:40 AM
Back up in Melbourne I took a stroll down St Kilda Pier. There I found a few examples of the Port Phillip Bay net boat, a lovely shoal draft double ender type boat where the net is shot off the quarter. There were also a few couta boats there as well.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935204.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935209.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935214.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935211.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935208.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-07-2011, 07:45 AM
Last lot:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935213.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935212.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935210.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935206.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935205.jpg

And one more for Greg and Jay:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/399935207.jpg

David G
12-07-2011, 09:21 AM
Duncan,

Thanks!

sailboy3
12-07-2011, 10:03 AM
Great photos. Thanks for posting them.

seanz
12-07-2011, 01:08 PM
Awwww.....I'm all homesick now.
:)

Larks
12-07-2011, 03:11 PM
Looks like a glorious day in Melbourne in those first shots Duncan, when Melbourne puts on a nice day it's a hard city to beat, and then it looks like you may have had the a typical four seasons in one day in the afternoon??

Some great shots there mate, nice to see the original cabin lines on the H28, thanks for posting it.

Duncan Gibbs
12-07-2011, 03:43 PM
Awwww.....I'm all homesick now.
:)

So you're a Melbourne boy too eh? Every time I go back to visit the fam-billy I seem to feel more and more like a tourist. This time I had to go back and have a spag' bol at Mario's on Brunswick Street for a trip down memory lane (and a friend I haven't seen for 15 years walks in!) and a lasagne at Florentino's on Bourke Street. I didn't quite get my creme-caramel at Pelegrini's. As long as those place exist I'll always be a Melbourne boy! :)

peter radclyffe
12-07-2011, 04:02 PM
thanks

John B
12-07-2011, 04:08 PM
Cheers Duncs.

PeterSibley
12-07-2011, 05:29 PM
Thanks Duncan ...I don't know Melbourne at all.I've always avoided it like the plague :d

Lovely boats, especially those couta boats !

BTW ,how about posting these in Misc Boat as well .There are a lot of people who refuse to step beneath the sole .

Ian McColgin
12-07-2011, 05:33 PM
Finastkind.

Glen Longino
12-07-2011, 07:28 PM
Duncan,

Thanks!

Same here!
Very fine thread!

Duncan Gibbs
12-08-2011, 01:46 AM
Cheers Duncs.

No wukkas mate! Do you know anything about that Logan rater up top?


BTW ,how about posting these in Misc Boat as well .There are a lot of people who refuse to step beneath the sole .

Maybe I put a signpost thread up there. Wanted a Bilge sweetener and I'd managed to get these shots down in the olde home town.

Larks
12-08-2011, 03:25 AM
Thanks Duncan ...I don't know Melbourne at all.I've always avoided it like the plague :d

Lovely boats, especially those couta boats !

BTW ,how about posting these in Misc Boat as well .There are a lot of people who refuse to step beneath the sole .

You're missing out Peter, Melbourne has quite a lot to offer and I'd happily say that it is the Friendliest of our State Capital cities.

PeterSibley
12-08-2011, 03:35 AM
You may well be right Greg but you need to live in a city for a while before it becomes less alien. It also helps if you have friends there. For me Brisbane, Sydney and of course Hobart qualify. Perhaps even Adelaide although it's been a long time since I was there .If it weren't for friends and associations I'd cross Brisbane and Sydney off the list too! I'm a small town bloke .

Duncan Gibbs
12-08-2011, 03:35 AM
Melbourne has quite a lot to offer and I'd happily say that it is the Friendliest of our State Capital cities.

Take me for example! To paraphrase Kippling, I yam Dunc, friend of all the World! :D

I have to say though the CBD has lost a good deal of it's charm over the 16 odd years since I left. There are still corners that have that neo-European feel, particularly the number of student loft spaces, bookshops and record stores, but vast slabs have been turned into shopping centre styled spaces. Still a very civilised place. Magnificent state gallery spread over two venues now.

I did drop into the RMYS at St Kilda and have a firm invitation for Wednesday twilight racing over both summer and winter series. :)

WX
12-08-2011, 03:48 AM
I like Melbourne, it's a bit cold but it has style. We stay with friends at East Brighton when we go down. I have a daughter living down there as well.
Good photos Duncan, reminds me of the days when there was a gaff rigged timber fishing fleet in my home town of Busselton in WA.

purri
12-08-2011, 04:15 AM
and on that note to counter the rebuffs from the Melbs clubs ('effin snobs) I offer an individual invite to the SASC (founded 1872) for a BYO lunch most times.

skuthorp
12-08-2011, 06:22 AM
Thank's Duncan, there's a whole lot more over at Williamstown as well.
I'm glad to see that Logan finally under a roof. It's been out in the weather for far too long. From what I remember it's been owned in that condition by a few blokes but none had the cash to rebuild her. Did you see the older derelict hulls down the back of the yard and the pile of big grown knees in the corner?
Melbourne is like most big cities, brash and fast on the surface but there are hidden delights round the bay and on the river, and even in the 'burbs.

Duncan Gibbs
12-09-2011, 10:22 PM
Bump! Just because the Bilge always needs sweetening!

Meli
12-09-2011, 10:37 PM
Take me for example! To paraphrase Kippling, I yam Dunc, friend of all the World! :D

I have to say though the CBD has lost a good deal of it's charm over the 16 odd years since I left. There are still corners that have that neo-European feel, particularly the number of student loft spaces, bookshops and record stores, but vast slabs have been turned into shopping centre styled spaces. Still a very civilised place. Magnificent state gallery spread over two venues now.

I did drop into the RMYS at St Kilda and have a firm invitation for Wednesday twilight racing over both summer and winter series. :)

Hey duncan,
We're having our christmas BBQ tonight at the Albert club. Wanna come?
We's christening the race boat and you could check out our Mirrors:D

And we have twilight racing on tuesday.
You can borrow mine :)

skuthorp
12-09-2011, 11:02 PM
Well I hope the weather is a little better in Albert Park than here Meli. A tropical downpour with thunder and lightning.
Family Xmas today, one nephew and family got the day wrong, one sister isn't talking to someone else so no show. Situation normal, we had a good time before the storm though. Power keeps going on and off with the lightning, someone is trying to phone us but no answering till the storm stops.

Duncan Gibbs
12-09-2011, 11:20 PM
Maybe when I'm back in town Meli: The air ticket would cost a motzza and I may still not make it in time.

Meanwhile here's a nice net boat for sale for a cool $20K. Looks like it's over in Williamstown, but the haul out was at RMYS from the building in the background:

http://www.aussieboatsales.com.au/images/db_imgs/tp4_4ab331549dcec.JPG

http://www.aussieboatsales.com.au/images/db_imgs/tp3_4b84820846621.JPG

http://www.aussieboatsales.com.au/images/db_imgs/tp5_4ab331553c1c7.jpg

http://www.aussieboatsales.com.au/images/db_imgs/tp1_4b8481e7d7d93.JPG

Meli
12-09-2011, 11:30 PM
thought you were still hereY:o

Duncan Gibbs
12-09-2011, 11:40 PM
Here's the geography of the bay for all the dang furners:

http://candobetter.net/files/pictures/PortPhillipBay-17mar08.jpg

St Kilda is right up in the top of the bay on the RHS of the river you see feeding into in and Williamstown is on the LHS of the same. Sorrento foreshore is around the second last bump on the thin peninsula on the eastern side of the entrance. With such a big bay (about 90km from top to bottom IIRC) emptying through such a small channel you can see why it's called The Rip.

Duncan Gibbs
12-09-2011, 11:48 PM
Dang edit not working! Here's a better map!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_knHmw4EPfhE/SzqlIW_4mjI/AAAAAAAABXw/l2z2nEGfZnk/s400/MapPortPhillipBay.jpg

skuthorp
12-09-2011, 11:56 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/52/Western_Port_Map.PNG/250px-Western_Port_Map.PNG

And we are on the bay to the right of Duncan's map, just where it says 'Grantville, middle RHS.

johnw
12-10-2011, 12:07 AM
Nice shots, thanks!

The Bigfella
12-10-2011, 12:17 AM
Good stuff Dunc. You captured all the best of Melbourne

Meli
12-10-2011, 12:32 AM
He didn't get one of that huge black and yellow "mystery" boat at the RMYS :D

Duncan Gibbs
12-17-2011, 09:16 PM
Bump! More bilge sweetening needed!

http://www.mo-go.com/volvoimages/Whisper-3-Piers.jpg

http://www.mo-go.com/volvoimages/C92-1999.jpg

http://museumvictoria.com.au/collections/itemimages/276/309/276309_medium.jpg
http://www.sail-world.com/photos_2011_2/Alt_The%20new%20couta%20boat%20Darce%20goes%20for% 20her%20first%20sail%20on%20the%20River%20Derwent1 .JPG

seanz
12-17-2011, 09:24 PM
It's not doing me any good........making me feel homesick at Christmas, it is. Sigh..........

Nice pics though.
:)

AussieBarney
12-17-2011, 11:43 PM
Good stuff Dunc. You captured all the best of Melbourne
You got it wrong Ian, There is nothing that is "Best" about Melbourne. The best view of Melbourne is the one you see in your rear view mirror as you slide the sucker into 15th and throw the slipper in to get the hell out of Mexico, with the sweet thought in your mind that it is only 3 an a half hours back to the civilized world,;)

BETTY-B
12-17-2011, 11:58 PM
Great thread! Thanks Duncan!

seanz
12-18-2011, 12:10 AM
You got it wrong Ian, There is nothing that is "Best" about Melbourne. The best view of Melbourne is the one you see in your rear view mirror as you slide the sucker into 15th and throw the slipper in to get the hell out of Mexico, with the sweet thought in your mind that it is only 3 an a half hours back to the civilized world,;)

Ha! I know your type. Spend all your time driving around half out of the cab checking for clearance under the bridges and tram power-lines.
:D

Meli
12-18-2011, 12:19 AM
Ha! I know your type. Spend all your time driving around half out of the cab checking for clearance under the bridges and tram power-lines.
:D

And always turning left :D

seanz
12-18-2011, 01:11 AM
Not even that......I know drivers that only go straight through in the CBD.
;)

Duncan Gibbs
12-18-2011, 01:18 AM
And always turning left :D

Exackery! What's civilisation without trams and hook turns? Pure barbarity I tell ye!

Farfalla
12-18-2011, 03:40 AM
Some very nice pictures of boats and sailing. Those "couta" boats are not a design I'm familiar with.

As you said, a "little sweetening for the bilge".
I was surprised to see an actual sailing and boat thread down in here, most of it seems to be "doom and gloom", politics or craziness.

skuthorp
12-18-2011, 04:01 AM
Since then Farfalla we have established an Aussie boating thread in Misc. boats here
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?140711-Oz-Connection

RFNK
12-18-2011, 04:14 AM
Nice shots Duncan! Thanks!

Rick

Farfalla
12-18-2011, 04:18 AM
So was the "couta" boat for sail fishing, a lot like some of the smaller traditional boats here?
Was the Bay a big fishing ground or did they have to go out into the open sea beyond?
That tidal rip at the mouth of the bay looks like it must be quite something. What sort of tidal range do you get there?

Sophie|:)

Farfalla
12-18-2011, 05:01 AM
Hi Rob,
Thanks for the explanation.
So the pole and line they used for fishing is essentially the same thing that they traditionally used for tuna and other large fish in the Med. when they had drawn the schools in close with nets and a group of boats.
Now they are just restored recreational sailing boats or are there still working boats?
Are there many new builds?
A lot of different local boats in the UK have undergone a resurgence in recent years but not as fishing boats.
When they are used for fishing they have outboards hanging off them.

Thanks,
Sophie|:)

skuthorp
12-18-2011, 05:06 AM
There wer some very local variations of the couta boat, a sister has a 22' version, a local here has a 19' version and further east at Lakes Entrance they seem to have built them shallower and wider but these may have been netting boats.

Duncan Gibbs
12-18-2011, 05:59 AM
Rob, you wouldn't happen to have a set of lines for the West Coast boats showing the greater draft would you? I've got the lines for Thistle as published in Australian Wooden Boats Volume One. I'm assuming that they're still centreboarders?

Duncan Gibbs
12-18-2011, 06:25 AM
I'd love a copy of that book, but you just can't get it for love, nor money. Maybe I'll try an interlibrary loan: A public library must have it somewhere in NSW.

Duncan Gibbs
12-18-2011, 06:40 AM
Got his email address Rob, but you may want to delete it from a public forum, or write is out using "dot" instead of "." and "at" instead of "@" and put spaces between all the separate components of the address, otherwise it'll get harvested for spam mailers. Like... Now!

Duncan Gibbs
12-18-2011, 07:05 AM
Garry's book is the one I'm after, and have been for some time now. I've done a bit of ringing around, but pretty much gave up; so no confusion Rob. Do you think he'd have a copy to sell?

Larks
12-18-2011, 03:24 PM
John, on photobucket there is an option to "customize your photo options" at the bottom of the upload page, if you open that you can set it to 640 x 480 so that all the pics you upload will be at that size. It seems to be about the right size but if I have a few big photos to upload to photobucket I compress them first in microsoft picture to "document" size so that they don't take forever to upload to photobucket in the first place.

rufustr
12-18-2011, 11:16 PM
There you go Rob.

Great photo.

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachments/f32/186705d1320402006-grey-seal-huon-seal-garry-stewart.jpg

seanz
12-19-2011, 04:17 AM
Also, There Was A Ship by Patsy Adam-Smith.......if you like Auxiliary Ketches.
;)

purri
12-19-2011, 04:52 AM
Duncan , I have been in contact with Garry Kerr , he has plenty of copies of that book.
Regards Rob J.

Pls pm me with dtls as a certain OZ LT COL never returned my copies of it and the "Trading Ketches" companion volume.

Duncan Gibbs
12-19-2011, 05:53 AM
Purri is Purri and Rick is RFNK Rob.

I'm sure I'd like a copy of the ketch book as well. Somewhere (in a Classic Boat issue that Bernadette gave me?) I have an account of a woman who sailed around the Southern Australian coast criss-crossing Bass Straight and The Ditch as well IIRC in one of these ketches. Phil's dad is trying to embark on building a new one on Franklin's waterfront.

BTW Rob, I only get a log-in request when I try and view all your shots on the Woodwork Forum. Any chance you could use a picture hosting site like Picturetrail? I could help you set it up over the phone tomorrow night if you PM me your number.

Duncan Gibbs
12-19-2011, 06:21 AM
Here's some more couta boats in the meantime! :)

http://www.sail-world.com/photos/Alt_6CoutaRacing.jpg

http://intheboatshed.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/4197112076_7c69b53f67_b.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
04-20-2013, 05:37 AM
Just reviving this thread as I've realised I took a few shots over Christmas, whilst down with the family, but hadn't posted them yet. These are all taken around Williamstown on the western side of the head of the bay.

An old couta boat with a (probably) retrofitted cabin. The couta boats were all usually open fishing boats:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356257.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356256.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356255.jpg

Just aft of her was this Port Phillip Bay net boat, I've previously shown from the other side of the bay at St Kilda:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356254.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356253.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356252.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
04-20-2013, 05:45 AM
St Kilda is off behind the yacht in the foreground:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356266.jpg

And behind the Enterprise in this shot:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356265.jpg

The Enterprise is a replica of the vessel that founded the city of Melbourne and the colony of Victoria in 1836. She originally sailed from Launceston in Tasmania's north:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356264.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356263.jpg

A solution for jetskis?

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356325.jpg

Something nice from the 1950s:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356261.jpg

seanz
04-20-2013, 05:49 AM
Very nice, love the little net boats. There's one (still afloat and just hanging on) down in Geelong......might have mentioned that earlier in the thread, it's been a while. :)

How big did the couta boat look? It seems huge.

Can't think how many times I must have cycled past those cannons on the way down to "Willie" to grab a coffee.
:)

Duncan Gibbs
04-20-2013, 05:55 AM
A pair of Atkin Benbows:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356262.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356259.jpg

Something else nice, not sure what it is though:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356260.jpg

For Greg, Jay and the other owners... H28s:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356258.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356332.jpg

H28s continued next post...

Duncan Gibbs
04-20-2013, 05:59 AM
One last H28 without it's masts, but very, very nice (aside from the pulpit):

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356333.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356330.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356329.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356327.jpg

I'll keep adding to this thread each time I venture back down "home".

Duncan Gibbs
04-20-2013, 06:32 AM
How big did the couta boat look? It seems huge.
Prolly about 30 feet, maybe a smidgeon longer. Note the divided cabin due to the CB.

Portland
04-20-2013, 06:44 AM
Ella is a 32 footer , which was very rare in a traditional couta boat http://www.woodenboat.com.au/register/listing.asp?boatid=9834 .
I have some very good photos of a net boat that has gone back to Blunts , and I believe is moored around there somewhere.
Rob J.

Duncan Gibbs
04-20-2013, 07:09 AM
I'm still waiting for this flood of photo's Rob: Eager anticipation is the exact phrase!

bamamick
04-20-2013, 07:22 AM
For some reason I have always thought that Melbourne was the place I'd like to visit most in Oz. Maybe it's because it's the closest to the Snowy Mountains? Maybe it's because I remember Olivia Newton-John talking about it on the commercials for visiting Australia so long ago? I don't know. It just always looked like a pleasant place to visit. And they had the Dragon World's there a couple of years ago so it can't be that bad, eh?

Thank you, Duncan. A very nice tour.

Mickey Lake

Ted Hoppe
04-20-2013, 07:35 AM
Perfect with coffee this morning. Thanks!

C. Ross
04-20-2013, 08:12 AM
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356252.jpg

Lovely to see this thread pop up again! I like this boat a lot!

Portland
04-20-2013, 08:26 AM
Here is a bit on Binny http://www.coutaboatclub.com/sa/coutaboat/BoatRegisterDisplay.aspx?ID=294 .
Its not quite original , the working boats rarely had a bowsprit.
I swooned over one here at Portland , it was still running a 1920 Kelvin engine fitted new when the boat was already 30-40 years old.
But it just wasn't suited to these waters , and I was glad when it went back to the waters it was designed for.
The net boats are in the couta boat register , because they were the forerunner of the couta boat.
Rob J.

Duncan Gibbs
04-21-2013, 03:55 AM
Lovely to see this thread pop up again! I like this boat a lot!
She's rather nice isn't she!

Meli
04-21-2013, 04:37 AM
What's the history of the couta boat Dunk.?
wiki says they were designed for speed but they look remarkably like italian fishing boats to my untutored eye.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=italian+fishing+boats&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=EbNzUY2iOq6eiAeSj4HYAg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=672#biv=i%7C18%3Bd%7CyohuXNQdNqhHYM%3A

Duncan Gibbs
04-21-2013, 06:06 PM
The double ended things aren't couta boats Meli, but Port Philip Bay Net Boats and are much sleeker than the Italian boats you've linked to. Their sheer is much flatter, they have a harder turn at the bilge, are rigged as gaff sloops, so their centre of effort of the sail area is further forward, and they have centre boards. Rob, who has Gary Kerr's book on Austalian fishing vessels will be able to give a better answer on their origins. Local conditions, and the type of catch they land usually dictate how these kinds of boats end up looking.

Portland
04-21-2013, 07:30 PM
The absolute book of authority on the subject is "First Home" "The couta boat and Victoria's couta coast" by Michael Innes and Steve Burnham .
A cracker of a book.
The net boats worked just off the coast , in those days fish were very plentiful.
They had a carvel bottom and clinker side , beautifully made , so they could be run up on the beaches.
I have a number of photos of the one that was in Portland , including the owner and I sailing her.
The old Kelvin couldn't pull the skin off a custard , it was just going.
With the old Kelvin restored it would have been quite a boat , but for Port Phillip , or the lakes , not Portland.
Its interesting to see the difference between the old time couta boats here , Arial and Rosebud , Jessmar or Legend and the modern racing couta boat.
I think myself very fortunate to sail on the oldtimers.
Rob J.
Rob J.

Portland
04-22-2013, 05:29 AM
I've put some photos on picturetrail http://www.picturetrail.com/portland7 .
They are of the netboat , and Garry Kerr with Arial , when I went sailing with him.
I'll find photos of Legend , Jessmar and Rosebud to put on here too.
Rob J.

Portland
04-22-2013, 06:08 AM
I've included photos of Jessmar a 23 foot couta boat and HS , a bit over 22ft . They are both centreboard gaffers , but their hull shapes are quite different.
And there is a photo of Legend , when we sailed her from Port Fairy to Portland.
Rob J.

skuthorp
04-22-2013, 06:50 AM
Thanks for the pix Rob. Those shots with the wooden netter and the modern fishing boat on the railway really emphasise how small the traditional boats were.

Duncan Gibbs
04-22-2013, 07:05 AM
http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1359/13585609/24340998/406375770.jpg

Love this one!

Portland
04-22-2013, 07:26 AM
Yes , I took that photo of the little net boat next to the big fishing boat for a comparison.
But ya know it would be interesting to compare outcomes.
How much would it cost to build the net boat and nets , and net maybe 5-6 times a day in waters thick with fish , as compared to the cost of building and running the big thing today , and fishing waters 1-2 or more days steaming away ?.
The last photo is of Garry Stewarts Legend , not long after this photo was taken we were up and surfing.
I've got photos of that too somewhere.
Rob J.

Portland
04-22-2013, 11:34 PM
I have put some photos up of the 150 +yo Port Fairy lifeboat going to Portland with us , it can get along !.
The last photo is of the lifeboat about to tack very close to shore , with its lug sails.
They were well practised and slick.
Rob J.

Larks
04-24-2013, 04:53 AM
Great thread revival Duncan, thanks mate.

I'm not sure whether this is actually a H28.....it kinda looks like it could be or is trying to be but just doesn't look quite right....too flat in the sheer or something??? There's just something not quite right about it (excluding the cabin top)....

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356258.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
04-24-2013, 05:38 AM
The sheer is a bit flat, but was told by some of the locals it definitely was an H28. Personally, I put it down to the lack of a topping lift on the mizzen boom.

Did you like the other one's coachroof/coaming line? The one sans its masts? I reckon I couldn't do better if I were wanting something to lead me in reconfiguring the cabin.

skuthorp
04-24-2013, 05:57 AM
".too flat in the sheer or something???"
Do you think she's been lengthened? There was one boat in Hobart that had been and it seems to me that it looks similar.

WX
04-24-2013, 06:23 AM
Oh I do like this one, isn't she just the duck's nuts?
http://intheboatshed.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/4197112076_7c69b53f67_b.jpg

RFNK
04-25-2013, 04:22 PM
FINALLY a reason to go to Melbourne!

These are fantastic shots Duncan - thanks!!!

Rick

WX
04-25-2013, 04:28 PM
FINALLY a reason to go to Melbourne!

These are fantastic shots Duncan - thanks!!!

Rick
Well you've got the boat to do it in now.:)
We're supposed to be doing a trip down there this year but I can't see it happening.

Duncan Gibbs
04-25-2013, 05:37 PM
Rick, I think you and I should take a trip down and I can show you around the place. I'm sure given a good guide around the city you'd have a much better time. Plus I have a mate who sails on a souped up Farr 42 down there for some go-fast sailing fun.

RFNK
04-25-2013, 05:46 PM
Yep but I think it should be the four of us! Ms T would be in that for sure. Ms L & Ms T can go shopping and you and I can look at boats!!

Rick

Duncan Gibbs
04-25-2013, 05:50 PM
Good eye deer! We could all go to the NGV (both branches) together though, and the botanical gardens. Lotsa things to do! Lovely food!!

RFNK
04-25-2013, 06:05 PM
Good eye deer! We could all go to the NGV (both branches) together though, and the botanical gardens. Lotsa things to do! Lovely food!!

Are there boats in the botanical gardens?

Okay, sounds great!

Really and truly - how can there be a National Gallery of Victoria? Who do these bloody Victorians think they are? And wouldn't the branches be in the botanical gardens?

Rick

RFNK
04-25-2013, 10:26 PM
Have consulted with Ms T and she's keen.

Rick

Duncan Gibbs
04-26-2013, 02:57 AM
Thank you Hans! Is this the same Hans "77"?

The Bigfella
04-26-2013, 03:23 AM
I think one Hans we know is up in Laos at present.

skuthorp
04-26-2013, 03:48 AM
Have consulted with Ms T and she's keen.

Rick
Let us know when and we'll come up from the bush and join in. Depending on your schedule you'd all be welcome down here even if we have to fetch you ourselves.

RFNK
04-26-2013, 08:26 AM
That'd be great Jeff - no idea when it'll be!

Rick

Duncan Gibbs
05-02-2013, 06:47 AM
A bump for Greg!


One last H28 without it's masts, but very, very nice (aside from the pulpit):

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356333.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356330.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356329.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356327.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
01-07-2014, 10:39 PM
A few new paragraphs to this photographic essay on my old home port are now to be added after a very nice and restful Christmas holiday down with the family in old Melbourne Town. Let us begin in Williamstown, at the Royal Melbourne YC and work our way south. Apparently there are a large number of old classic yachts in the club marina including a few Tumlarens and this rather sleek looking thing that sat at the end of one of the fingers:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515715.jpg

Along with the classic A-Rater Sayonara (http://www.classic-yacht.asn.au/boat-register/sayonara/) whose name is stamped onto a perpetual challenge trophy between the Royal Sydney YS and the Royal Melbourne YS:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515729.jpg

Just south of the RMYC is a complex of very old wharfing buildings that is now run under the banner of Seaworks by Parks Victoria. There's a big exhibition hall which contains a number of boats and old shipping line models, but I've never been around when it's been open. I did stumble across this shed however:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515723.jpg

There was a Danish shipwright there called Toby; very old school, smoking roll-ups, with full sleeve tattoos, dusty spec's, short whiskers, gravelly voice, but only about 40 - 45 years old. He had worked at TE Neilsens in Denmark, but was now working on the Alma Dopel (http://www.almadoepel.com.au/) on a big reframing job for the old schooner. He wanted to know where he could get big slabs of Australian hardwood, so I was happy to furnish him with the name of the mill up here in Northern NSW.

There was what looked like a 22 square metre in the shed:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515721.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515719.jpg

And a lovely big old double ended pilot house trawler/launch getting the full works:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515718.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
01-07-2014, 10:52 PM
There is also this lovely Tum' that's about where my boat is now restoration wise:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515716.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515717.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515720.jpg

Just outside the shed is this big old marine railway:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515728.jpg

It must have had some big ships come out on it in its time, but it's completely rusted out now and just a morphological trace of a glorious maritime past.

At the other end of Williamstown facing the brunt of the larger fetch of the bay south is the Williamstown Anglers Club, which has been there for about 120 years:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515727.jpg

It looks quite small, but the rather cute harbour goes all the way back to the sheds in the top RH corner of the picture:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515731.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
01-07-2014, 10:56 PM
It's furnished with two of these small marine railways:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515726.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515725.jpg

There are dozens of these old clinker launches:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515737.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515736.jpg

There are great scenes everywhere at the club:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515724.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515732.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
01-07-2014, 11:09 PM
Melbourne and it's bay is blessed with an amazing network of bike paths including one that goes around much of the shoreline. About four kilometres further around from the Williamstown Anglers Club is the Koroit Creek Boat and Anglers Club, whose home sits on the creek estuary:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515735.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515734.jpg

Someone built a salty little memorial to a mate:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515818.jpg

I wonder how long these little institutions will hold out against the tide from the inland: Developers and willing buyers. Forever I hope!

This was spotted in an industrial yard beside the bike path:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515733.jpg

And finally, what it's all about: punching your way into 35 knots and a steep chop!

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515714.jpg

:)

purri
01-07-2014, 11:21 PM
Wonderful stuff Duncan!

RFNK
01-08-2014, 12:10 AM
Nice shots Duncan!

Good to know the place has some redeeming features! :)

Rick

Duncan Gibbs
01-08-2014, 12:41 AM
Yeah. I know Rick! The rest is pretty awful! :D

I've got a pile of shots from a compendium exhibition we visited at the the NGV there. I'll start another thread on it when I get a chance.

RFNK
01-08-2014, 04:04 AM
An exhibition of compendia? Sounds extensive .........

Rick

PeterSibley
01-08-2014, 04:32 AM
Thanks Duncan , I really enjoyed that ! BY:D

Duncan Gibbs
01-08-2014, 05:57 AM
As the catalogue listing states, that work is not on display. But yes, it's much the same; and I dare say a few of the vessels that called the Anglers Club their home port then still do so today.

We were primarily looking at the Melbourne Now exhibition, which was absolutely brilliant, although we did see this view of Hobsons Bay (Willianstown's waterfront for our dear readers) in the permanent collection as we scurried past toward the temporary exhibit:

http://content.ngv.vic.gov.au/retrieve.php?size=large&type=image&vernonID=75821

By Thomas Robertson painted in 1860.

Whilst searching the NGV catalogue I also came across this view of Railway Pier which (I think) has that big marine railway beside it:

http://content.ngv.vic.gov.au/retrieve.php?size=large&type=image&vernonID=12969

Taken by Charles Nettleton in 1870. The current pier is concrete.

Do you live in Williamstown Hans?

Duncan Gibbs
01-09-2014, 06:35 AM
Bump! Just because...

Those stateside are just about to pour their morning coffee!

Plus Hans hasn't replied to the above post yet.

Duncan Gibbs
01-13-2014, 05:46 AM
I almost forgot something!

In post #82 (http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?140531-A-Small-Photo-Essay-of-Port-Phillip-Bay-s-Wooden-Boats&p=3764279#post3764279) I incorrectly identified this and another yacht as Atkin Benbows, but have since been disabused of my illusion. There are, in fact Hess 32s and this one is for sale. Have a look-see inside:

http://www.38southboatsales.com.au/2002-lyle-hess-32-cutter/

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/406356259.jpg

skuthorp
01-13-2014, 06:48 AM
Duncan, I'm hurt. You were within driving range and didn't tell me. I'd have come up specially.

Nice pics, this boat, if my memory serves me right was in the open for years on the peninsula awaiting a saviour,
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/23965857/408515719.jpg

NZ built? I think JohnB knew about it.

Duncan Gibbs
01-13-2014, 03:54 PM
Unfortunately Jeff, my time wasn't all my own, but next time I'm down I'll try my best! The above shots were all taken on the last day when I did have some unstructured time and spontaneously jumped on the bike and rode from Williamstown to Altona after a hefty sleep in.

I'm not sure where the 22 square metre came from, and nor did the shipwright. I know there is a Un Zid yacht in Tim Philip's shed down at Sorento. It's pictured earlier in this thread.

Duncan Gibbs
01-15-2014, 06:24 AM
Email them to me Rob and I'll post them here!

C. Ross
01-15-2014, 09:55 PM
This is great stuff Duncan. Thanks!! Y>

Duncan Gibbs
01-17-2014, 06:05 AM
Lovely boat Rob:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1359/13585609/24340998/406375709.jpg

And so is the Ariel:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1359/13585609/24349648/408565735.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1359/13585609/24349648/408565734.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-23-2014, 04:02 AM
Thanks Hans! I've downloaded all my shots, but I'll have to sort through them, resize and upload the chosen ones to Picturetrail.

It was a great afternoon conducted at short notice! :)

Duncan Gibbs
12-25-2014, 02:46 AM
Let's reprise where Hans, Jeff and I left off on my last visit to Melbourne in September.

Not wooden, but of some interest was the entire monohull fleet of the Sea Shepherds at base in Williamstown:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606082.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606080.jpg

A view of the damage that Bob Barker incurred with her squishing encounter betwixt two Japanese whalers:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606081.jpg

If'n you want to send a letter to the Sea Shepherds...

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606172.jpg

Whilst we're not focusing on wooden boats, here's a famous plastic one, Kookaburra II:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606178.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-25-2014, 03:06 AM
That's enough steel and plastic though!

Here's where Hans and I started this time, at Blunts of Williamstown. I didn't get a shot of the facade, so here's one I pulled from the web: http://www.woodenboat.com.au/images_MWBF2010/bluntsboatyard.jpg

We were greeted by Greg Blunt. His family have been running the yard on this location since 1922 and the business has been going since 1858, first in Geelong and then moving to Williamstown in 1888. Here's Greg, again, not my picture:

http://williamstownfestival.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/greg.jpg

A few shots of the interior starting with the steam generator:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606073.jpg

Next is a 1948 guillotine:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606151.jpg

Work in progress:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606071.jpg

Auger envy anyone?

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606152.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-25-2014, 04:59 PM
This was in the shed as well:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606072.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606155.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606154.jpg

Not sure what she is, but I'd venture she's old and this would be her first major restoration. Greg wasn't in the mode to answer questions as he was under the pump to try and get work completed for Christmas.

"My masters are a demanding lot." He stated. "Your bosses?" I asked, me not knowing he was a Blunt at that stage.

"No! Clients! These are the busiest five days of the year!"

This was his main concern, another handsome couta boat being readied for relaunch:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606070.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606083.jpg

This was the recipient of all the plugs next door to the couta boat:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606069.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-25-2014, 05:14 PM
The jetties out from Blunts were a bit of a wonderland as well. A very sharp looking couta boat sans rig:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606159.jpg

Just next door in the Motor Yacht Club was this overflow item, with all it's brass and bronze well polished:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606078.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606077.jpg

Looking across to the main Blunt's jetty:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606079.jpg

A rare old timber Jubilee Class racer, designed and first sailed in 1935 to commemorate King George's Jubilee:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606075.jpg

The class website: http://www.jubileeyacht.org.au

Another view across from the MYC to the Blunt's jetty and what Hans thinks is a Gippsland Lakes net boat:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606076.jpg

Peter Malcolm Jardine
12-25-2014, 05:16 PM
Beautiful boats Duncan, thanks.

RFNK
12-25-2014, 06:05 PM
+1

These are great Duncan!

Rick

oldsub86
12-26-2014, 10:57 AM
I'd love a copy of that book, but you just can't get it for love, nor money. Maybe I'll try an interlibrary loan: A public library must have it somewhere in NSW.



http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&tn=Australian+Wooden+Boats+Volume+One

skuthorp
12-26-2014, 01:51 PM
Hans and Duncan, thanks for that.
Is this
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606154.jpg

the Logan boat that was looking for a restorer on the other side of the bay in another yard? I think you posted a pic of that a year or so back still in the open.

RFNK
12-26-2014, 03:16 PM
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&tn=Australian+Wooden+Boats+Volume+One

It's a real shame that it's out of print. I've been trying to get copies to send to a couple of Kiwis and a certain Canadian but had no luck so far. I wish our local National Maritime Museum wasn't so hung up on ships and would publish stuff like this!

Rick

Duncan Gibbs
12-26-2014, 06:09 PM
Hans and Duncan, thanks for that.
Is this


the Logan boat that was looking for a restorer on the other side of the bay in another yard? I think you posted a pic of that a year or so back still in the open.
No. That's still in Tim Phillip's yard at Sorento AFAIK.

I have that book Old Sub. It's the Australian Fishing Boat book I don't have, but Rob put me in touch with the publisher and it's still available through him. Rick, either get that one through Abe, or I could scan mine. You may be able to get it through the NSW branch of the Australian Wooden Boat Association.

Duncan Gibbs
12-26-2014, 08:47 PM
Dunc,

is the fishing book you refer to Gary Kerr's "Craft and Craftsmen of Australin Fishing"?
That's the one! I should be able to afford it this coming year. Gary has a few other tomes out as well I'd like to add to my library.

Duncan Gibbs
12-26-2014, 10:08 PM
Moving along again (twixt Christmas activities and time out to try and get over this damned cold) more from the Blunt's jetty:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606074.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606150.jpg

A closeup of the foreground boat:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606149.jpg

Hans thinks he knows who designed this boat and tells me that they roll like a bastwerd whilst on the pick, but I think it looks rather nice:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606148.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606146.jpg

Hans already has this view, but since I'd gone to all that trouble to upload my version to Picturetrail here it is again:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606147.jpg

Does Kerr's book have anything on the Gippsland Lakes net boats Hans?

Duncan Gibbs
12-26-2014, 10:14 PM
A few more along the jetty:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606158.jpg

A pair of pilot boats:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606157.jpg

And a view back to shore and the yard:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606160.jpg

This was tucked away in a corner:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606156.jpg

Let's leave Blunt's with this thought that is attached to the rear door of the main shed:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606153.jpg

Coming up The Royal Victorian Yacht Club...

RFNK
12-27-2014, 05:13 AM
No. That's still in Tim Phillip's yard at Sorento AFAIK.

I have that book Old Sub. It's the Australian Fishing Boat book I don't have, but Rob put me in touch with the publisher and it's still available through him. Rick, either get that one through Abe, or I could scan mine. You may be able to get it through the NSW branch of the Australian Wooden Boat Association.

I've got it but I'd like another couple of copies to give away. I could just photocopy mine but thanks! I don't think the NSW Association still prints it but I will ask them one day.

Rick

Duncan Gibbs
12-28-2014, 05:23 AM
Now for some nice things at the RVYC. Francis an 8m:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606168.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606176.jpg

Her sister on the hard and under cover, (Hans will remember her name):

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606189.jpg

And a cruising 8m that looks like an S&S design, but isn't (see following post):

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606174.jpg

Nice details on her, like the coved edge board to the cabin and coaming:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606187.jpg

And really well made mooring lines:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606186.jpg

PeterSibley
12-28-2014, 05:28 AM
That's the one! I should be able to afford it this coming year. Gary has a few other tomes out as well I'd like to add to my library.

I think that's on my bookshelf Duncan.

Duncan Gibbs
12-28-2014, 05:29 AM
Marie Louise III:
http://www.classic-yacht.asn.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/marie_louise_iii_01.jpg
http://www.classic-yacht.asn.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/marie_louise_iii_02.jpg

Boat Name: Marie Louise III
Designer: Jack Savage (to the International Meter formula)
Builder: Jack Savage
Year Launched: 1954
Rig: Sloop 7/8 fractional
LOA: 40′
LWL: 29′
Beam: 9′
Draft: 6′
Sail No: KA1
Owner: Peter Lloyd
History: In 1906 a conference in London, attended by all the major yachting nations,[excluding USA which had its own Universal Rule] paved the way for this new breed of yacht. Out of the chaos of many different rating and handicap systems[sounds familiar] came a formula that allowed yachts from many countries to race together. The numeral designation ie 6 or 8, has nothing to do with any physical dimension of the boat! Complicated?-sure is! 8 Metres are typically 15 metres long, 12 Metres are 20 metres long! In 1953 Bill Lowe, a member at RYCV, commissioned J. Savage and sons, Williamstown to design and build [to the Rule] an 8 Metre Cruiser/Racer. Hull constructed from 1 1/8″ Huon Pine over 2x1 1/2 laminated ash frames 8 1/2 centres. Spruce mast and boom, galvanized fittings. Deck originally canvas covered, replaced early on with teak, and more recently with New Guinea Rosewood. Extensive Huon Pine fitout. Motor was originally 25HP Clae Marine petrol, now fitted with a 3cylinder 20 HP Yanmar diesel. Upon launching in 1954 she was named Mongoose 111. She is not just a boat, she is part of our maritime heritage and most of all a thing of great beauty, a symphony of wood, rope, and water, an object created by man with the only object to make us feel good about being alive. We are only caretakers and with luck she will outlive you and me. Future generations will think of us and will silently thank us for having seen her through the ages.

Duncan Gibbs
12-29-2014, 01:41 AM
A few shots on the hard at the RYCV.

Ply YW Diamonds:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606170.jpg

Ply Bluebirds (for Rick):

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606185.jpg

Scimitar:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606171.jpg

I can't find much on the web about her, aside from the fact she likes attracting silverware whilst racing.

A closeup of Sayonara at rest. Note the way the brightwork is protected, much like the coaming covers on the 8m Francis:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606173.jpg

Something that looks much like a bigger version of Tom's Wee Barkey, sans rig, thus the weird waterline. Looks like she's just finished a big renovation:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606175.jpg

Another Hess cutter for sail (why are all the Williamstown Hess cutters for sail?):

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606177.jpg

PeterSibley
12-29-2014, 01:49 AM
I really hope this boat has some ventilation I can't see !

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606173.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-29-2014, 02:01 AM
Tumlarens:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606169.jpg

This Tum' is the same one that was in the shed this time last year as shown in this thread:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606180.jpg

Lovely joinery:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606179.jpg

A rather nice H28 with an original rig and cabin top for Greg (where is Greg these days???):

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606181.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606182.jpg

And finally a really famous boat that was featured in our host's magazine in an article on Ben Lexcen; Mercedes III:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606188.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-29-2014, 02:15 AM
More on Mercedes III (and the last report until my next visit down here):

http://www.classic-yacht.asn.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/chew8078.jpg

Boat Name: Mercedes III
Designer: Ted Kaufman / Bob Miller (Ben Lexcen)
Builder: Cec Quilkey
Year Launched: 1966
Rig: Sloop
LOA: 40′
LWL: 31′ 1.5″
Beam: 11′ 3″
Draft: 6’6″
Sail No: R 450
Owner: Martin Ryan
ARHV Number: HV000494 (http://emuseum.anmm.gov.au/code/emuseum.asp?style=browse&currentrecord=1&page=search&profile=ARHVObjects&searchdesc=HV000494&searchstring=QuickSearch/,/contains/,/HV000494/,/false/,/true&newvalues=1&newstyle=single&newcurrentrecord=1)
History: Australia’s first cold moulded ocean racer, the first and fourth fore and aft oregon planking (5/16th”), 2 diagonal layers (3/16th”). Keel, ribs, frames and floors Queensland Maple.
Racing History:
1966: Launched for the Admirals Cup trials, she won 9 of her first 14 races.
1967: Member of the winning Admirals Cup Team (+ Caprice of Huon Boambillee)
1969: Member of Admirals Cup team, finishing 2nd (+ Ragamuffin Koomooloo)
1980’s: Raced on Sydney Harbour with a short interlude at RBYC. Completed many Hobarts.
1986: Brought to RMYS by Martin Ryan. Sydney Hobart 1995, 1996. Success on CHS, IMS, and AMS over the years with the Cock of the Bay a favourite. (1st 1989 on CHS and 1st 2008 on AMS)

Duncan Gibbs
12-30-2014, 04:42 AM
Bump, because the bilge is always pretty stinky! :p

skuthorp
12-30-2014, 04:53 AM
Like that Hess Cutter, I liked the design after looking over one in Hobart.
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/410606177.jpg

Peerie Maa
12-30-2014, 05:04 AM
A big thanks must go to Greg Blunt for letting Dunc and I have the run of his yard.Y>

A few more...

My take on the ghostly augers.

http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo74/Imprimis517/141222_02_zps63e6cad0.jpg


Six rare ones hanging up there. I'm not jealous, honestly I'm not.

Duncan Gibbs
12-31-2014, 09:27 PM
Bump! Bilge still stinky!! :p:p

Which ones Nick, and what use are they designed for?

Note all the boring bars as well.

auscruisertom
06-11-2015, 07:56 PM
Recently saw this Jubilee Class boat at the Queensland CYC Vintage Yacht Regatta,she is one of 4 other Jubilees in the Brisbane area.

Most of the 160 or so others are spread around Victoria, NSW and Port Philip Bay and where they where first introduced. For a class that was first build in 1935 and still actively sailing there appears to be not a great deal of information available.

My attraction to this boat is its size at only 18' and the shallow draft of 1'4" with the board up, which of course makes it suitable for trailering. Furthermore the floorboards mounted above the CB would make this an ideal camp cruiser. The origin would have to include a certain element of Couta Design?

Would love to hear from any opinions, past or present owners or better yet a timber boat needing some loving.


Cheers Tom


http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i398/sailortomw/103_2014_zps5u8kukmp.jpg

skuthorp
06-11-2015, 08:52 PM
Tom, 80th anniversary for the Jubilees this year. http://www.jubileeyacht.org.au/



http://www.jubileeyacht.org.au/UserFiles/images/Jya80thAnniversaryPoster.jpg

auscruisertom
06-12-2015, 03:40 AM
Thanks Jeff eighty years is quite as milestone, not to mention having made the transition from timber to fiberglass. Undoubtedly living near Melbourne you would be more familiar with the Jubilee class, have you ever sailed on one?
Cheers Tom

skuthorp
06-12-2015, 04:55 AM
I don't live that close Tom, 80-100 k. on the eastern end of Westernport bay. The shallow bit.

Sailed the Mac today on a glassy bay. Just a light breeze but enough for the Mac. Air temperature with the breeze under an overcast sky was 4-5C but a pleasant sail.

Peerie Maa
06-12-2015, 04:57 AM
A big thanks must go to Greg Blunt for letting Dunc and I have the run of his yard.Y>

A few more...

My take on the ghostly augers.

http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo74/Imprimis517/141222_02_zps63e6cad0.jpg






Which ones Nick, and what use are they designed for?

Note all the boring bars as well.
The first long one (behind the one with the bent shank) is a bare foot L'Hommedieu pattern.
Not seen that often, the open spiral is supposed to be disinclined to get stuck in the hole.
Then there are some shipwrights pod augers, shaped like a cylinder, the really long one in the middle is one. They drilled really straight with no tendency to wander, but had to be pulled out of the hole to clear the chippings more frequently.

auscruisertom
06-14-2015, 06:14 AM
Thanks Hans for dusting of the archive's, a very interesting shot. Would I be right in saying they used to pile on the crew weight, in order to sail faster. Or does it have more to do with your localized conditions and keeping the boat upright in the gusts?

Cheers Tom

Hallam
10-07-2015, 08:53 PM
Recently saw this Jubilee Class boat at the Queensland CYC Vintage Yacht Regatta,she is one of 4 other Jubilees in the Brisbane area.

Most of the 160 or so others are spread around Victoria, NSW and Port Philip Bay and where they where first introduced. For a class that was first build in 1935 and still actively sailing there appears to be not a great deal of information available.

My attraction to this boat is its size at only 18' and the shallow draft of 1'4" with the board up, which of course makes it suitable for trailering. Furthermore the floorboards mounted above the CB would make this an ideal camp cruiser. The origin would have to include a certain element of Couta Design?

Would love to hear from any opinions, past or present owners or better yet a timber boat needing some loving.


Cheers Tom


http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i398/sailortomw/103_2014_zps5u8kukmp.jpg

Hi Tom.
The Jubalee where designed by Charlie Peel with Mr. W. D. Higgins (R.B.Y.C.), and the Couta boats are definitley a strong influence. Mind you, I'm no authority on the subject but these things are talked about around the yard at the wooden boat shop where i have been working on my boat for the past six weeks. Here is a link to the Jubalee Yacht Associations page re history: http://www.jubileeyacht.org.au/Handbook/?page=A%20Brief%20History

Some more links

http://www.mysailing.com.au/news/jubilee-mooring-minders-no-longer

http://www.afloat.com.au/afloat-magazine/2012/march-2012/Return_of_the_Couta_Boats_by_Bruce_Stannard#.VhXEs aSm1Og

An interesting detail of the couta boat seen in this pic is the sprung keel and this is also evident on my motor sailer thought to be designed as well by Charlie Peel.I'm fairly sure this is also a design detail of the Jubilee.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n49/Hallams/2015-10-06%2017.50.36_zpsftltr31m.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/Hallams/media/2015-10-06%2017.50.36_zpsftltr31m.jpg.html)

Hallam
10-07-2015, 09:05 PM
Here is a look at the Jubalee lines and sail plan and the curved sprung keel is there for sure.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n49/Hallams/SailPlan_zpsabcw1fdx.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/Hallams/media/SailPlan_zpsabcw1fdx.jpg.html)

auscruisertom
10-08-2015, 05:11 AM
Appreciate you pointing out the curved sprung keel a design feature I am familiar with , but having finally allocated some time to read up on the principal of the design feature. My apology for the delay Hallam.

The Jubilee is still on my list of priorities as I continue my exploration of original Australian sailing designs.
Presently completing a Manly Junior with a Mirror Gunter Rig LOL , the only reason for this unorthodox mix was a degree of frustration after not being able to track down a timber MJ rig. Sea trials will commence shortly. I would love to see a picture of your boat Cheers Tom

Hallam
10-08-2015, 05:45 AM
A while back I started a thread about my boat. It's a bit of a diary since buying her 18 months ago. Currently out of the water getting a paint job and working on the deck, and will be back on her mooring in a few weeks:

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?181189-Warana-11-Blairgowrie-Victoria

but here is my favorite pick after we got the mast and sails up:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n49/Hallams/Sailing_Warana11_zpsice6znyy_1.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/Hallams/media/Sailing_Warana11_zpsice6znyy_1.jpg.html)

skuthorp
10-08-2015, 06:05 AM
Appreciate you pointing out the curved sprung keel a design feature I am familiar with , but having finally allocated some time to read up on the principal of the design feature. My apology for the delay Hallam.

The Jubilee is still on my list of priorities as I continue my exploration of original Australian sailing designs.
Presently completing a Manly Junior with a Mirror Gunter Rig LOL , the only reason for this unorthodox mix was a degree of frustration after not being able to track down a timber MJ rig. Sea trials will commence shortly. I would love to see a picture of your boat Cheers Tom
I've just about sorted a mirror rig for the Mac Tom, but I think her sailing days might be soon over. Too tender, too much hard work, doesn't point well and a pain in the butt if you bottle her. Another more orthodox dinghy I reckon. But not yet, too much work on and I haven't the time.

RFNK
10-08-2015, 04:31 PM
Lovely boat Hallam!

Rick

auscruisertom
10-08-2015, 06:44 PM
I've just about sorted a mirror rig for the Mac Tom, but I think her sailing days might be soon over. Too tender, too much hard work, doesn't point well and a pain in the butt if you bottle her. Another more orthodox dinghy I reckon. But not yet, too much work on and I haven't the time.

I hear what you are saying Jeff, likewise with the MJ although she will probably sail reasonably well with just the Mirror Gunter main, as the jib is too large. The rig I will keep and hopefully find or build a nesting dinghy for Wee Barkie.

Hallam Lovely seaworthy looking motor sailer you have there.

Halam

Hallam
10-08-2015, 06:58 PM
Thanks Rick and Tom, yes I'm the lucky custodian of an old gem of a boat. I have had her for 18 months now and instead of finding things wrong with her over that time it has been more of finding things right! Very well built by Jack Gutierrez of tallowood which seems similar to teak. The deck and cabin sides need a bit of work and a new mast step in future so i can sail her hard with confidence.

Duncan Gibbs
10-10-2015, 07:16 AM
Lovely Hans! Thanks! :)

auscruisertom
10-10-2015, 04:27 PM
Beautifully done restoration . Thanks Hans

Duncan Gibbs
12-03-2015, 05:09 AM
Time to update this with some shots from today, whilst I kill some time...

The IFDS Disabled Sailing Combined World Championships 2015 were held in Williamstown over the last 6 days and I happened to call up Hans whilst I was spending a day in Melbourne and we wondered through the hard stand of the RVYC which hosted the regatta. A few Megels and other plastic fantastics were dotted about, but the biggest fleet were the 2.4s. Now I really want one (cold moulded, or strip planked to a more classic shape of course!)

Here's Hans for scale:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950359.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950192.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950188.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950193.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950199.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-03-2015, 05:15 AM
Back to the wood, however! Here's the Seaworks shed current activity...

Lovely new laminated mast with a perfect bolt rope/slug slot being finished:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950187.jpg

The general view of the shed:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950186.jpg

Hugh's rigging of Merlin, on the pier just outside the shed is coming along too, with the new main bent on:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950185.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950184.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950183.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950200.jpg

Duncan Gibbs
12-03-2015, 05:19 AM
More of Merlin:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950196.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950195.jpg

Just behind Merlin was this new(ish) Couta boat, that Hans told me was the subject of forum build thread about ten years ago:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950197.jpg

And a couple of general shots of loveliness to finish up for now:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950194.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950182.jpg

I'll be back in a couple of weeks, so see what floating about then as well!

The Bigfella
12-03-2015, 05:32 AM
Good to see Castlemaine. She was part of the ops in Timor.

Duncan Gibbs
05-30-2016, 06:29 AM
Time for another instalment!

Hans, my brother and I had a lovely wander around the Williamstown waterfront on a spankingly beautiful autumn day. We came across this lovely pilot house launch; rough, but well loved:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/KA93Looe/IMG_1535_zpsjrcqmawy.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/KA93Looe/media/IMG_1535_zpsjrcqmawy.jpg.html)

After my brother had to scoot, Hans and I wandered through the RYCV yard and found the classic 1923 8M Acrospire III mastless:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/KA93Looe/IMG_1536_zpsgxxmhgts.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/KA93Looe/media/IMG_1536_zpsgxxmhgts.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/KA93Looe/IMG_1537_zpsfcgyeveo.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/KA93Looe/media/IMG_1537_zpsfcgyeveo.jpg.html)

The big stick was sitting nearby:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/KA93Looe/IMG_1539_zpsagkcvgrz.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/KA93Looe/media/IMG_1539_zpsagkcvgrz.jpg.html)

This is one of Hans' shots of the tops:

http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo74/Imprimis517/akkers_4_zpsqxizrb3l.jpg

My picture a bit further down:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/KA93Looe/IMG_1541_zpswa3mld9b.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/KA93Looe/media/IMG_1541_zpswa3mld9b.jpg.html)

Duncan Gibbs
05-30-2016, 06:41 AM
The crane on the travel lift then provided the heart-stopping next 10 minutes:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/KA93Looe/IMG_1544_zpstkbixf0j.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/KA93Looe/media/IMG_1544_zpstkbixf0j.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/KA93Looe/IMG_1547_zpszkgnblbg.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/KA93Looe/media/IMG_1547_zpszkgnblbg.jpg.html)

And in it goes!

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/KA93Looe/IMG_1548_zpsayotge8u.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/KA93Looe/media/IMG_1548_zpsayotge8u.jpg.html)

There was a bit of wrangling of bow lines, interesting lines of communication between the crane driver, one bloke in the cockpit, another at the partners and the owner at the step as captured by Hans:

http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo74/Imprimis517/akkers_3_zpsgrcqbqg8.jpg

Also spotted was a long neglected Tumlaren that had been shifted from a corner in the yard to a spot where it looks like it's going to get some long overdue TLC:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/KA93Looe/IMG_1551_zpssjz5yfna.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/KA93Looe/media/IMG_1551_zpssjz5yfna.jpg.html)

And a lovely little cutter nearby:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/KA93Looe/IMG_1555_zpsyvvnsk3v.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/KA93Looe/media/IMG_1555_zpsyvvnsk3v.jpg.html)

That's all for now, but hopefully a visit to old Jack Pompei's should feature in the next instalment, as well as a visit to the Victoria Docks Boatworks.

Duncan Gibbs
05-30-2016, 08:03 PM
Bumped for sweetness!

HS
05-30-2016, 10:22 PM
Gee Dunc, that's funny looking wire on Acrospire's mast, seems mighty flexible!

RFNK
05-30-2016, 11:28 PM
Looks like dyneema to me.

Rick

HS
05-31-2016, 12:26 AM
PBO I think. I was just waiting for some those arthritic old knees to jerk at the sight of non-galvo rigging on a boat of that heritage ;-)

RFNK
05-31-2016, 02:37 AM
Are you sure? Not a great choice for standing rigging, I'd have thought.

Rick

Duncan Gibbs
05-31-2016, 02:55 AM
It must work, because this is a boat that's raced hard. The 14mm has a breaking load of 10.6 tonnes. Noice!

PeterSibley
05-31-2016, 03:06 AM
More of Merlin:

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1913/10058894/24615928/411950196.jpg



Thanks Duncan, saved as an example of a good design and thanks for the other photos of Merlin.

RFNK
05-31-2016, 03:09 AM
High strength but problems with UV. However, I've just been looking it up and there seem to be various companies claiming good longevity for their PBO. I thought it would have to be sheathed but I guess, as with Dyneema, they've found another way to protect it.

I like the idea of fibre rigging. When Masina needs new rigging, it'll be fibre. But that's about 10 years away, at least :)

Rick

RFNK
05-31-2016, 03:13 AM
Does anyone here know what brand that furler is on Merlin?

Rick

RFNK
05-31-2016, 03:14 AM
Thanks Duncan, saved as an example of a good design and thanks for the other photos of Merlin.

What is it?

Rick

PeterSibley
05-31-2016, 03:49 AM
A cast bronze winch base.

RFNK
05-31-2016, 04:44 AM
Thanks!

Rick

Duncan Gibbs
05-31-2016, 08:48 AM
Those were cast using a specific 3D printing compound which can be used for lost wax styled casts. This also has the advantage of not requiring core patterns.

Rick, I don't know the furling gear brand, but I'll ask Hugh next time I call him. I do know he's used quite a bit of Toplicht hardware on the boat. The Appledore boom furler/reefing gear is Merlin's original.

skuthorp
09-27-2016, 06:28 PM
Hey, a Seabird! I once cam across one with a long spoon stern added.
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo74/Imprimis517/750_2145_zpsk88horsw.jpg

RFNK
10-25-2016, 04:30 PM
Very nice!

Rick

HS
10-25-2016, 05:26 PM
I think the owner had just spotted the calling card of a passing seagull!

Hans

RFNK
10-25-2016, 08:40 PM
Or a speck of dust!

Really a lovely boat. Thanks!

Rick

PeterSibley
10-25-2016, 10:25 PM
Any detail on this ?

http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo74/Imprimis517/750_2147_zpspyqt23hb.jpg

HS
10-26-2016, 01:04 AM
Sorry Peter,

I have no details. She just sits forlornly in the graveyard outside Pompei's works in Mordialloc. By the look of it, little work appears to have been carried out for some time. A great shame given that she looks quite solid/fair, unlike may of the pointed piles of timber parked there. I promised The Banished One that we would go over there for an explore next time he visits Melbourne. Hopefully there will be someone onsite for us to question, the place was deserted on my last visit. Come on down with him, there's a half-good pub 50m from the yard!


Hans

PeterSibley
10-26-2016, 01:08 AM
Not a bad suggestion Hans , she does look fair and worth consideration.

RFNK
10-26-2016, 03:54 AM
I'd be in that if the timing's right and you think you could stand it! We're driving down to Melbourne prior to 5 Feb as we catch the Spirit on 6 Feb. A few hours poking through some of Melbourne's wooden boat projects sounds wonderful. I wonder when Duncan's likely to be in Melbourne? We should be back in Melbourne on about 18 or 19 Feb I think.

Rick

RFNK
10-26-2016, 03:55 AM
It looks like a stretched H28. I wonder what it is?

Rick

PeterSibley
10-26-2016, 04:08 AM
It doesn't quite look like anything I recognise and it may well be too big for me, it's good looking though.

RFNK
10-26-2016, 07:17 AM
You'd probably get it for a song.

Do you know any?

Rick

DRMS3930
12-05-2016, 08:26 PM
I'm new to this excellent forum and stumbled upon this thread when searching for Couta boat information. Some wonderful pictures, thanks for sharing.

skuthorp
12-06-2016, 03:31 AM
Tha originator, Duncan is at present in temporary limbo as regards participation. But he is still looking.

Thanks Hans, that is one spectacular overhung counter!