Atkin's "Silver Heel" displacement

[chrisk]

I am trying to see if I can get the displacement for Atkin's "Silver Heel" design. It is the round bottomed version of "Amercia Junior". The synopsis on the Atkin web page (http://www.atkinboatplans.com) only mentions that there is 1500 lbs of lead ballast and an additional 600 lbs of inside ballast should be used.

I already posted on the Atkin yahoo group and got
the following information with a "guesstimate" of 7000 lbs of displacement:

>--- In AtkinBoats@yahoogroups.com, "holzboat" <holzboat@a...> wrote:
I believe that Silver Heels was originaly designed as a schooner.

The original design for the schooner version of Silver Heels is named "Live Yankee" and has the same rig as "America Junior". There is a write-up in the January 1959 issue of "BOATS" magazine, pg. 52.

There doesn't seem to be displacement figures given for many of the Atkin's designs. I looked through several of the Ideal Series books with no results. I've looked through several other designers plans for similar sized boats and am going to guess that 7000 lbs. would be a reasonable number to work with.
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Where I live the reservoirs are small, so I'd like to be able to move the boat to different reservoirs a couple of times a season and maybe every other year take a long trip to the Gulf of Mexico or the west coast. So, I want the trailering to be as convenient as possible and 7000 lbs. is near my limit.

This is a rather longer term project for me, but I would be interested if anyone knows more specifics about the displacement of "Silver Heels". I'd also like any pointers on how one would go about changing the scantlings and whatever else would be necessary if I were to cold-mold the boat so that it could survive the trailering better and possibly be a bit lighter on the trailer. In the end I'd probably try and get a Naval Architect involved to make the changes, but it'd be nice to get an idea on what all would be involved.

Thanks
Chris Kottaridis (chrisk@quietwind.net)

[ 08-11-2004, 06:55 PM: Message edited by: chrisk ]

[boatlover]

Chris,

When the SILVERHEEL design was published in Motorboating, in the late 1940's, the rig was a ketch, just as it is on the Atkin site today - or rather as it was when I looked a few days back.
The first I saw of the schooner rig on that hull was in Yachting(US) in the late 1950's - early 1960's.

Just FYI.

Regards,

Ed R

[holzbt]

Somewhere I have an old magazine article about "Silver Heels". In it William Atkin states that he had originally designed it as a schooner. He stated that when the ketch design first appeared in print he mentioned that it had originally been a schooner and that many of the inquiries he received asked if the plans were still available for the schooner version. He also said you can't figure yachtsmen out, he was trying to update the design to make it more appealing and a great deal of the interest generated by the article seemed to be in the original schooner design.

[boatlover]

Holzbt,

If that was in the article in Motorboating (& Sailing.) I don't recollect that bit about the schooner rig. I read the article when that issue appeared on the newstand, but that was a long time ago, and I no longer have my collection of old Motorboating issues. Any idea what issue that was ?

"ROSDAVE" was the featured design in the first
issue I bought at (Willie) Secrists Drugstore - news-stand, soda fountain, and patent medicines.

(Willie made a mean chocolate malted milk !)

Regards,

Ed R

[holzbt]

It isn't in the article reprinted in the Ideal Series which should be the same as the Motor Boating magazine article. Atkin also submited many of the same designs to Rudder, Yachting, Boats, and Motorboat magazines. I've been trying to find it for the last two days,but can't remember which magazine it was in. I have found quite a few other interesting designs in the process though. When I find it I'll post it here.