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Chris Coose
11-22-2011, 12:35 PM
Them nasty atheists are at it again.



11-22-2011, 12:42 PM
What i got when I opened the link :rolleyes:



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N (http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-706810?hpt=hp_bn2#)ot a churchgoer, but not an atheist either.

Chris Coose
11-22-2011, 12:42 PM
Even having married a Jewish girl and having a child with her didn't stop Santa from coming by. Proof enough for me.

11-22-2011, 01:27 PM
Makes you wonder what the hell special happened in 1963. ;>

Nicholas Carey
11-22-2011, 02:37 PM
Makes you wonder what the hell special happened in 1963. ;>

Abington School District v Schempp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abington_School_District_v._Schempp)

The Supreme Court declared school-sponsored prayer in the public schools to be [and rightly so] an unconstitutional establishment of religion per the 1st amendment.

11-22-2011, 02:52 PM
Certainly giving atheists a bad name, that sort are certainly open to the charge that their version is approaching the definition of a religion. I have been an unbeliever al my life but see nothing wrong with Christmas and indeed many other festivals, after all they are just adaptions of much earlier religious ceremonies which in turn probably stretch well back into pre-history.

wizbang 13
11-22-2011, 05:35 PM
I would have been offended if the Flying Spaghetti Monster was on that billboard.

11-22-2011, 09:06 PM
or the Great Pumpkin.. 2 more days.. ;-)

Health, happiness, and a close family are MY values.

The strange thing is these are what _most_ of us want..

If, when talking individually with right wingers, I bring this up, we both immediately recognize common ground.. then we can talk. Wonder why religion (including the religions of patriotism/partisan) always try to keep us arguing??


11-23-2011, 05:40 AM
The billboard is described in the article as "controversial".

Personally - and as an atheist - I'd describe it as simply "not very good".

It at least needs a picture of Mohammed on there, too. :rolleyes:


Ian McColgin
11-23-2011, 08:42 AM
AndyG, Mohammed was a human historical figure who is not worshipped in a way analogous to the veneration of Jesus as Son of God. Big big difference.

Michael D. Storey
11-23-2011, 08:47 AM
satan and santa are the same letters re-jumbled.


Chris Coose
11-23-2011, 09:02 AM
satan and santa are the same letters re-jumbled.

That's only in the Grimm's Brothers translation of the Aramaic. Santa was known in the old world as the "deliverer of the holy semen".

11-23-2011, 10:46 AM
Certainly giving atheists a bad name...You might have some surprising company offering sympathy, skuthorp.

Many of my friends and I regularly feel that the views promoted by some Christians give Christians like us a bad name. Don't even get me started on what my Muslim friends feel.

11-23-2011, 12:31 PM
I'd term myself a "lapsed Catholic." It seems to me that creating an anti-religion organization is tantamount to forming a new religion. The belief in disbelief.

At any rate, everyone has the right to hold and express their opinion. But I think messages promoting the positive side ones belief system are more effective than messages disparaging other beliefs.


11-23-2011, 01:33 PM
I doubt that any decent fraction of atheists are organised: I'm certainly not a card-waving member of such an organisation. Indeed, I don't know anyone who is.

But seeking some form of affirmation (whether through joining an organisation or just looking at the published numbers) for non-belief is not necessarily a bad thing. It's good to know that there are growing numbers of others with doubts - and open minds! - willing to question traditional, usually-inherited, religious beliefs.