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Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 04:59 PM
I'm Going to post a few pictures of my Father's house with "Staging" the realtor did, and what I did... I'm not going to say which is which, and please remember that I'm not a professional photographer, so ignore picture quality.... I'm just looking for comments on which interior decorating is more inviting. Be as brutal as you want... I borrowed Joe's Rhino skin. ;)

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo23/Mrleft8/Copyofnew73deepwood001.jpg
http://p.rdcpix.com/v07/lfbaa5c43-c6m.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo23/Mrleft8/Copyofnew73deepwood004.jpg
http://p.rdcpix.com/v07/lfbaa5c43-c7m.jpg

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 05:05 PM
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo23/Mrleft8/Copyofnew73deepwood003.jpg
http://p.rdcpix.com/v07/lfbaa5c43-c7m.jpg
http://p.rdcpix.com/v06/lfbaa5c43-c14m.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo23/Mrleft8/new73deepwood011.jpg

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 05:07 PM
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo23/Mrleft8/new73deepwood012.jpg
http://p.rdcpix.com/v07/lfbaa5c43-c5m.jpg

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 05:10 PM
Unfortunately, you can tell which one is the realtor's by the little MLS logo thingy.... Sorry...
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo23/Mrleft8/Copyofnew73deepwood007.jpg
http://p.rdcpix.com/v07/lfbaa5c43-c4m.jpg

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 05:19 PM
Same space, from about the same angle...
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo23/Mrleft8/Copyofnew73deepwood002.jpg
http://p.rdcpix.com/v07/lfbaa5c43-c4m.jpg

SMARTINSEN
11-20-2011, 05:21 PM
Unfortunately, you can tell which one is the realtor's by the little MLS logo thingy.... Sorry...

Nonetheless, your staging is just as good if not better than the real estate person's.

What is on the wet bar, I cannot quite make it out. Is it a bottle of Murpy's Oil Soap or a bottle of Hornito tequila? The latter being more persuasive as a little psychological selling gimmick, IMHO:)

A beautiful home, BTW, too bad you have to sell it.

Peerie Maa
11-20-2011, 05:22 PM
Prefer the red ones, they are warmer and more welcoming.
If the others were trying for a blank canvas they are too busy.

Paul Pless
11-20-2011, 05:23 PM
Unfortunately, you can tell which one is the realtor's by the little MLS logo thingy.... Sorry...

I like yours better, a lot better. Looks cleaner, simpler and less cluttered - but what do I know. . .

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 05:25 PM
Yeah.... That's Murphy's.... I was just taking pictures to see how it looked in print as opposed to in real life. You pick up a lot more things in print.... Like crumpled up paper towels and dead flies on window sills....:D

Bobby of Tulsa
11-20-2011, 05:26 PM
I don't care for the realtor's look at all. To cold for my taste.

purri
11-20-2011, 05:28 PM
^ exactly. As a taste nazi of some ill repute the agent has no taste and was in it for a larger commission. Your furniture is far better (esp the Beidermier and Danish modern)

Glen Longino
11-20-2011, 05:32 PM
I like your more colorful look!
Amber saw the bed and her eyeballs went spinning in her head till I barely got away before she embarrased me and the realtor.
Nice house!

Nanoose
11-20-2011, 05:34 PM
Yours is much more uncluttered and modern, and people with those tastes will be drawn to it.
The realtors is softer, more traditional.
Color wise, I prefer the red - makes things pop.
The neutral, soft approach is too washed out...nothing memorable to keep in my minds eye as I move on to see the next house.

Very nice house, BTW.
Where abouts in CT? (I believe you said he was in CT)

rbgarr
11-20-2011, 05:36 PM
The starker, lower and darker red/black furniture fit the style of the house more consistently and because a simple shape is less distracting it enables a prospect to envision their own furniture in the house more easily. It's easier to see the spaces. The other lighter color furniture looks like it's a house that would be harder to keep clean and the furniture obstructs the size of the rooms.

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 05:37 PM
No Biedermeyer...That's an Eero Saarinen "Grasshopper" chair, and an Alvar Alto side chair, along with two chairs by Edgar and Joyce Anderson. All the other woodwork is mine.
Most of it's a little beat up thanks to the tenant from hell, but it's furniture, not tiny porcelain unicorns...

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 05:39 PM
It's in Guilford, Nanner.... Near New Haven.
I do think my furniture makes the spaces seem larger than the realtor's stuff.

Nanoose
11-20-2011, 05:46 PM
Ah, yes...drove through that area more times than I can remember doing the commute from Groton, then Kittery, to see Dave's family in Westport.

wizbang 13
11-20-2011, 06:30 PM
I like the red stuff

Lew Barrett
11-20-2011, 06:31 PM
I have an alternate take, worth the price you pay. I think both arrangements are nicely open making the rooms look good and the house spacious, and yes, it's a nice house indeed. I do think the realtors furniture looks more coordinated....matched if you prefer.....because it is! Also, the rooms look just a bit more comfortable to me with the fully upholstered chairs. I do like the red as everyone else does but I'd observe that in both cases, the place looks a bit sterile. That's what staging shoots for; removing any personal effects and aiming to create a clean canvas onto which a prospective buyer can project their own vision without the clutter of the current owner's ideas. However, I'd say that the place looks just a bit sparse to me.

Both arrangements probably accomplish the main mission: removing clutter, opening the spaces and suggesting neutrality.

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 06:33 PM
Yup, Donn. Those are Cherry covers or "fascias" for the baseboard fin-tube heating. My mother couldn't stand the metal covers that come stock, and insisted that I come up with a solution. I'm not sure it's the most elegant solution, and if I were putting in heat in a new house now, it would be radiant floor heat, but back in 1984 this was what I came up with. Remember that I was only 23, and had limited experience with mechanicals at the time....

Concordia...41
11-20-2011, 06:33 PM
Red :)

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 06:35 PM
OK. Point taken Lew...
There is no doubt that my taste (or lack there of) has influenced my decorating.....

BrianW
11-20-2011, 06:43 PM
I recognized your furniture from your website. ;)

My opinions are mixed...

I prefer their living room in white, and their bedroom. The desk in the bedroom, under the shelf, looked wrong. The lamp cord distracted my attention too.

I do prefer your treatment of the alcove, with the 5 windows and baseboard heater.

bobbys
11-20-2011, 06:48 PM
I would have added some art work myself.

http://0.tqn.com/d/collectibles/1/7/V/W/elvisvelvet.jpg

SMARTINSEN
11-20-2011, 06:56 PM
I assume the bulky-looking arrangement at the bottom is some sort of baseboard heating?



[air return duct]insert joke here[/air return duct]:p

Paul Girouard
11-20-2011, 07:05 PM
[air return duct]insert joke here[/air return duct]:p

They are way uglier than a return air duct. :d

I'd paint all the trim in those lower floor (assumed living room spaces are ground floor) rooms , like what's been done in the bedrooms, tiny trim needs to blend in, IMO.

I like the realtor's look better, yours is to woodworker orientated , and yanno woodworkers can't afford your house or stuff as they are part of the "poor" 99 %er's . The realtor's look will catch the eye of the 1 %er's who should be your prime demographic group , those rich bastids that work in NY city and live in Conn. to avoid the higher taxes they'd pay in NY state. :d

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 07:06 PM
That's two 3's and a single, Donn, and the black thing is a fireplace with a cantilevered hearth. The hearth stone and surround (Flush with the surrounding wall) are black slate.
There is no TV in the house, although I did get my father one about 2-3 years ago so he'd have something to stare at besides the wall, or the view (Long Island sound. If it was a good day, and a halfway decent photographer, you could see the north fork).
And the fresh air return duct is cleverly disguised as a bottle of Murphy's oil soap.

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 07:10 PM
Painting Cherry trim white is a crime punishable by death of a thousand fleas.... Even thinking that thought could have you flogged in several Asian and northern European counties....

purri
11-20-2011, 07:16 PM
I would have added some art work myself.

http://0.tqn.com/d/collectibles/1/7/V/W/elvisvelvet.jpg

"Art work"? Now that's a criminal offence!

Woxbox
11-20-2011, 07:23 PM
Yours is far more attractive. The realtor's looks like a committee job -- very blah.

MiddleAgesMan
11-20-2011, 07:26 PM
I like the IKEA look which I assume is yours, Lefty. The realtor's look isn't bad but it's hard to make a fair comparison because your pics are so much larger than the realtor's.

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 07:39 PM
That's another 5, (Actually, two 3's and a single fixed pane in the middle) and the "Paint it white" reference was to Girouard.

BUT.... The trim and windows remain the same in both the before and after shots.

Paul Girouard
11-20-2011, 07:41 PM
Painting Cherry trim white is a crime punishable by death of a thousand fleas.... Even thinking that thought could have you flogged in several Asian and northern European counties....

I'm sure this was directed at me Donn. :o

Ya, it would be ashamed to paint it but it's to small for my tastes to be that dark against a white- ish wall. In the photo is looks like 7/16"x 1 1/4" Mahogany wedge casing , mash miter casing we call it out here as you can darned near just butt the corners of that type base and mash the base together to make the miter. I'm sure if you had some one who could take a photo the casing would be a thing of beauty , or a "work of art" that SOB is always taking credit for my work. :d I'm sure he follows you around as well|;)

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 07:47 PM
It's 13/16"X1 5/8" and the base has a 30 degree bevel on the top. The inside corners are coped, The outsides butted, the door and window trim is butted.
BUT.....It's still the same trim before, and after. I'm not looking for suggestions on the trim, the floor, the wall color, or the view. I'm asking which interior decoration is more inviting.

elf
11-20-2011, 08:02 PM
The realtor's setup is more inviting. Yours is very severe. And, to make matters worse, it's completely beyond any early 21st C. sense of styling.

The Danish modern would be great if the space looked lived in, had stuff around, a dog on the floor, plants in the windows etc.

But your current homeowner is either going to take everything out anyway or going to fill it up with Martha Stewart Living.

Personally, if I could afford to not sell, I sure would. Or if I could afford to hold out until a Danish Modern buyer makes a winning bid.

But if the goal is to move the house, sentiment aside, the Martha Stewart Living look is more likely to sell it.

Paul Girouard
11-20-2011, 08:26 PM
It's 13/16"X1 5/8" and the base has a 30 degree bevel on the top. The inside corners are coped, The outsides butted, the door and window trim is butted.
BUT.....It's still the same trim before, and after. I'm not looking for suggestions on the trim, the floor, the wall color, or the view. I'm asking which interior decoration is more inviting.

Ya but it would all just look better with a nice return air duct planted in the center!! :d Can't you cut one in???

Paul Girouard
11-20-2011, 08:29 PM
BTW , whats the painted trim in the bedroom? Generally the whole house gets the same trim, so is it painted Cherry , or was it something else paint grade Hemlock/ Fir/ Poplar???

David G
11-20-2011, 08:46 PM
I have to agree, mostly, with elf. Your setups are more my personal style, but I learned decades ago that my personal style is not close to the norm. I also took not of the table under shelf looking awkward - nothing on the shelf above, obtrusive cord, etc. I'd agree it's about which fish you're trolling for - and how fast you want to move this puppy.

Bruce Taylor
11-20-2011, 08:52 PM
Red, without hesitation. :)

Mrleft8
11-20-2011, 09:01 PM
OK...
(Shut up Paul! ;))
The realtor has had 4 months of showing the house as it was. There's been almost 400 views, and 3 requests for details. That told me that people who would be likely to be interested in a "Mid century modern" (God I hate that term!) house, were looking at the first few pictures of Pier1 Import furniture and saying "This is crap, move on!" I plan to give the current look, with tweaking, and a few modifications based on feedback, until April 1. I figure 4 months at just past peak real estate market season is equal to 4 months (Less than) the worst part of real estate season. I'll compare stats then and if it's still on the market then I will make changes. I'm hoping that the more vibrant colors will add some oompf! to the internet market, which is most of the market. Nobody looks at fliers in real estate office foyers anymore....Do they?

elf
11-20-2011, 09:30 PM
Then get some plastic plants in every room.

Paul Girouard
11-20-2011, 09:40 PM
OK...
(Shut up Paul! ;))





Painted Cherry huh?? Init huhuhuhhuu!! Heeehehhehhheeee. You where saying the punishm................... heheehehe!

Cherry paints great BTW, if a guy has a bunch of sap wood Cherry it's a way to use it up. But then Lefty knows that, heheheheeee!

purri
11-20-2011, 10:53 PM
Lefty,

Your look could have been improved with some minimalist curtains (drapes to you) in bleached or coarse weave raw linen with near floor length drops.

As for "Martha Stewart Living", BLUUURGHHHHHHH!

Mrleft8
11-21-2011, 07:56 AM
OK.... Curtains.... Dust traps. I was trying to keep it minimalist minimal with the fabric pleated blinds.....
Plastic plants have as much chance as painting the Cherry trim white.....:rolleyes:

elf
11-21-2011, 08:13 AM
OK, then. For the shoot real plants.

C'mon, Doug. Your house is full of plants. You know what I'm trying to say.

If you gotta get the house to move, you gotta make the minimalist mid-century Danish Modern appear to be livable.

Most people just don't want to live in that anymore, even though I am not among them.

Add books too. And yes, classic drapes could be very handsome, especially if they aren't colored or a cold white.

elf
11-21-2011, 08:15 AM
Also, shoot in early evening, with the warm light of sunset coming in the windows and with at least one incandescent lamp on in each setup.

Mrleft8
11-21-2011, 08:19 AM
The sun sets somewhere else, and by early evening it's pitch black outside.
That's an eastern exposure.

thedutchtouch
11-21-2011, 09:44 AM
either way looks fine, IMHO, if sticking with the red layout move that dresser/wardrobe from the corner in the bedroom, i've always been told to never clutter up the corners or a room and never put a rectangular piece of furniture like that on an angle as it just decreases room size and looks odd

Michael D. Storey
11-21-2011, 08:41 PM
Go with your own. Your instincts of space and color are good. Yours look like inviting space. Shame you have to sell.

Mrleft8
11-21-2011, 08:48 PM
It is a shame we have to sell, but my father's savings are almost burned up. Over $100,000 to keep him healthy and safe for the last year. Meds and nursing home w/ an Alzheimer's facility... Poor guy. Worked all his life until he was 84, served in the Navy during WW2, and now all his savings, and home have to pay for keeping him alive if not aware for how ever long he keeps breathing.
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to sell my place next... But I will not let any real estate drone decorate my house for even a minute. I'll put it in my will if I have to.

Woxbox
11-21-2011, 10:14 PM
It's nothing short of criminal the way the health industry strips vulnerable people of their wealth. I'm sorry to hear it's going this way for you and your father.