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Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-20-2011, 09:53 AM
I happen to know this corner of the world quite well.

http://www.newsbreak.ph/2011/11/08/contraception-ban-in-bataan/

A ban on the sale of all forms of contraception is just what these people need.

Still, let's look on the bright side - the effect will be lots more Filipina prostitutes across the girlie bars of Southeast Asia in sixteen or so years time, all diligently trying to support their siblings out of their immoral earnings, because the economy of central Bataan turns on fishing, fish farming and rice paddy and not a lot else, whilst their brothers join the New People's Army and kidnap visitors.

Won't that be fun!

If you read the article you'll see that a similar ban was tried in Ayala Alabang, one of the richest suburbs of Manila, whose occupants are well capable of driving a few blocks to get what they need, and was overturned. So the sick pedarastic nutters are trying it on with the poor.

I am somewhere beyond angry. Don't occupy Wall Street - occupy your local temple of pederasty and hypocrisy.

Like this one:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Petersdom_von_Engelsburg_gesehen.jpg/250px-Petersdom_von_Engelsburg_gesehen.jpg

John Smith
11-20-2011, 10:00 AM
I'm angry too. This stuff is being pushed here. I was pleasantly surprised that the law in Missippi was defeated.

I've posted before how I cannot get my head around being against abortion and contraception while hating single moms. Now I can add to that making more kids for fewer teachers.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-20-2011, 10:04 AM
This is the place - picture taken from the war memorial cross on Mount Samat. 84,000 people, with shall we say not a lot to do..

As mentioned I happen to know this town and the surrounding small towns and villages quite well. There's not a lot to do here; the plaza is always full of underemployed and unemployed young men.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d8/Balanga.JPG/800px-Balanga.JPG

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-20-2011, 10:06 AM
And these are the guilty men:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_Balanga

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-20-2011, 10:11 AM
I'm angry too. This stuff is being pushed here. I was pleasantly surprised that the law in Missippi was defeated.

I've posted before how I cannot get my head around being against abortion and contraception while hating single moms. Now I can add to that making more kids for fewer teachers.

Ah, well, you see, John, they are sinful women, who tempt men into sin. They deserve their fate.

The authors of this outrage resist the wiles of women by raping little boys, instead.

John Smith
11-20-2011, 10:23 AM
Ah, well, you see, John, they are sinful women, who tempt men into sin. They deserve their fate.

The authors of this outrage resist the wiles of women by raping little boys, instead.

I think you're right. I"m convinced that MOST people opposed to birth control or abortion view the child as punishment for bad behavior. I remember asking my very religious friend one day, "If it weren't for lust, how would we get babies?"

I tried to explain to another friend that if our Pledge said, "under no God," he'd feel the same as I feel about it now.

I had a conversation last weekend with another friend where I tried to explain to her that the Supreme Court did NOT say you can't pray in school. It only said the school cannot sponsor a prayer. To the best of my knowledge, everything past that as been knee jerk reactions.

If I had my way I'd take "Under God" out of the pledge and put Christmas carols back into concerts. There is nothing prettier to my ear than a nicely done "O Holy Night". Marty Robbins was Jewish and turned a few heads when he recorded a couple of Christmas albums, but he just viewed it as music. Joy Behar opened for Glen Campbell one tour and in a predominently Jewish area much of the audience left when he did "Amazing Grace" with the bagpipes. Too bad, they missed a marvelou piece of music. Never mind that at another concert he'd play "Hava Naguila"

One need not be Italian to enjoy Italian food. Religion makes people stupid.

Phillip Allen
11-20-2011, 10:30 AM
I understand and agree... but last time I made a comment on such things, I got sent to the penalty box

Dan McCosh
11-20-2011, 10:31 AM
Birth control was banned in both Connecticut and Massachusetts when JFK was president.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-20-2011, 10:35 AM
I never knew that, Dan. Thanks.

George Jung
11-20-2011, 10:37 AM
I must've missed a really *fun* thread......

can anyone point me to the thread in question, the one being referenced in the OP????

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-20-2011, 10:40 AM
Not a WBF thread, George; a Filipino news website.

Its a very good article, well researched. You will notice the lies told to the local officials who signed the ordinance.

But of course they cannot be lies, because they are being uttered by Christians...

George Jung
11-20-2011, 10:41 AM
So..... the 'Sam' in your title isn't our very own SamF?

Sorry - my bad.

Phillip Allen
11-20-2011, 10:43 AM
Birth control was banned in both Connecticut and Massachusetts when JFK was president.

we knew about it in Arkansas... how come more of you didn't seem to notice

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-20-2011, 10:46 AM
So..... the 'Sam' in your title isn't our very own SamF?

Sorry - my bad.

Oh, yes he is. He's the usual apologist for this sort of stuff.

George Jung
11-20-2011, 10:55 AM
Ah, okay.

I thought it alluded to a recent thread.

So .... this is more about sales, eh? ;)

Tom Montgomery
11-20-2011, 11:18 AM
I wonder what SammyF thinks of all this?

Keith Wilson
11-20-2011, 11:25 AM
That's loathsome. It won't be very effective, any more than drug laws, but it will do terrible damage nonetheless.


Birth control was banned in both Connecticut and Massachusetts when JFK was president.Correct; the laws were passed in the late 19th century. In fact, US federal law passed in 1873 made it illegal to distribute birth control (mostly condoms back then) or even information about it, lumped in with pornography. (See "Comstock laws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comstock_laws)") 26 states had laws banning birth control. But by WWI, the number of soldiers getting syphilis relaxed opposition somewhat, and a court case in 1918 allowed condoms "for the prevention of disease only" (older folks may remember that pro forma message on the package). The laws were all was overturned on Constitutional grounds in Griswold v Connecticut in 1965, one of the precedents for Roe v Wade. Thank Margaret Sanger for most of the progress we've made; despite her nasty views on eugenics (common at the time), she was a genuine hero.

skuthorp
11-20-2011, 03:10 PM
I mostly think that this sort of nonsense is more about male power trips than anything remotely religious, no matter where it happens.

WX
11-20-2011, 03:19 PM
The more bums on pews the more pennies in the tray. That gold leaf is expensive stuff and doesn't grow on trees you know.
I think most of you know my views on religion.

purri
11-20-2011, 06:33 PM
And on the role of the OTF in the matter, I know of a foreign diplomat who described Cardinal Sin as "Sin Incarnate".

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-21-2011, 02:09 AM
If you want to see the Catholic church in its true colours, look no further that the Philippines. There is no mention of the global pederasty scandal here - the Church effectively controls the news just as it effectively influences politics in an unholy alliance with the ruling dynasties.

George.
11-21-2011, 04:22 AM
Look at the bright side: maybe AIDS will spread faster than unwanted pregnancies, and they will all end up in Heaven.

Meli
11-21-2011, 05:13 AM
Look at the bright side: maybe AIDS will spread faster than unwanted pregnancies, and they will all end up in Heaven.

And the clients of child prostitutes of both sexes bring a nice surprise home to their wives when they return to the USA, Australia etc

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-21-2011, 05:33 AM
I don't care about those people; I do care about the children driven into prostitution.

The men deserve what they get and their wives can afford a doctor and a lawyer.

George.
11-21-2011, 05:40 AM
What I want to know is what interest the Church has in promoting prostitution. Perhaps it is because Jesus hung out with one.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-21-2011, 05:43 AM
Let's see, what might real Christians be doing in the Philippines, just now?

They might be helping this old lady search for her missing husband, who has Alzheimers and has wandered off, two weeks ago?

This is a Facebook share; she's been sitting at the corner of Roxas Boulevard and Buendia for two weeks now; wonder how many priests have driven past and not reminded themselves of the Good Samaritan.
Here's the story that goes with it.

Lolo Matias is 78 years old, he displays childish behaviour so do coax him if found and restrain him from leaving ur sight.
Call any of these numbers immediately 09497763122/ 09326095491 / 09474196145, he lives in #164 Dolores St. Pasay City Brgy 66 Zone 08



http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee352/acraigbennett/OldladyonthecornerofBuendiaandRoxas.jpg?t=13218728 42

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-21-2011, 06:06 AM
What I want to know is what interest the Church has in promoting prostitution. Perhaps it is because Jesus hung out with one.

He probably didn't - the idea that Mary Magdalen was a lady of negotiable virtue seems to be down to Pope Gregory the Great making a mistake in 591, confusing two different Marys. The Eastern Orthodox church have never gone along with this notion.

What infuriates me is the wilful blindness to the consequences of this and similar legislation by the soi-disant guardians of our morality.

These are not unexpected consequences; they are surely obvious to all?