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Nicholas Carey
11-17-2011, 05:58 PM
http://www.artisanalpencilsharpening.com/

This gentleman sharpens pencils old-skool, in his atelier, with a pen-knife. For only $15, you can send in your favorite pencil for sharpening (or let him send you a brand-new, freshly sharpened Dixon #2). Your pencil will be shipped to you in a protective tube with a certificate of authenticity.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jq6Cdlj9adE/TDlWz10o9kI/AAAAAAAABog/bcqn3lNiXS4/s1600/IMG_3703.JPG

A couple of reviews of his...service:


From the LA Times: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketcopy/2010/08/david-rees-artisanal-pencil-sharpening.html
From Details magazine: http://www.details.com/blogs/daily-details/2010/06/three-questions-for-david-rees-about-his-new-artisanal-pencil-sharpening-project.html


PT Barnum was right :rolleyes:

wizbang 13
11-17-2011, 06:31 PM
I'm sure there is somebody in India who will sharpen your pencil for $8.

John Meachen
11-17-2011, 06:41 PM
I find a 3/4 inch chisel does an adequate and reasonably priced job of sharpening pencils.I would hesitate to call it artisanal and I would not dream of preying upon gullible people for money for the few seconds of my time it takes.Maybe I ought to reconsider.

seanz
11-17-2011, 06:43 PM
Brilliant!
:D

I've been looking for an old desktop sharpener for a while now.......


Hey, it's the fella that did "Get Your War On"......maybe he needs something peaceful and contemplative.

Phillip Allen
11-17-2011, 06:43 PM
everybod has an angle... that one looks like about 32 degrees

SMARTINSEN
11-17-2011, 07:53 PM
http://kronikle.kidrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pencilleadsculptures-1.jpg

SMARTINSEN
11-17-2011, 07:55 PM
Dalton Ghetti (http://www.daltonmghetti.com/):

http://assets4.designsponge.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/daltongroup.jpg

sailboy3
11-17-2011, 08:30 PM
WOAH. does he also write the entire bible on a single credit card in his spare time?

B_B
11-17-2011, 08:52 PM
This gentleman sharpens pencils old-skool, in his atelier, with a pen-knife. For only $15, you can send in your favorite pencil for sharpening (or let him send you a brand-new, freshly sharpened Dixon #2).
I value the moments used to sharpen pencils more than $15, thanks very much - procrastination is invaluable ;)

Lew Barrett
11-17-2011, 08:54 PM
Website (http://www.artisanalpencilsharpening.com/bio.html)

Very funny! Website is a must visit!

B_B
11-17-2011, 08:56 PM
Website (http://www.artisanalpencilsharpening.com/bio.html)
Very funny guy! Website makes the intent clear.
Satire is a very thin wedge...

Phillip Allen
11-17-2011, 10:08 PM
Website (http://www.artisanalpencilsharpening.com/bio.html)

Very funny! Website is a must visit!too young to have had much experience... and only a wild-eyed liberal would wear safety goggles to sharpen a pencil!

B_B
11-17-2011, 10:12 PM
...only a wild-eyed liberal would wear safety goggles to sharpen a pencil!
Corollary: unseeing conservatives have been blinded by NOT wearing safety goggles...

or some such? ;)

Woxbox
11-17-2011, 10:20 PM
I'm I the only one who prefers a #1? And who doesn't enjoy flipping on the belt sander for this job?

James McMullen
11-17-2011, 10:39 PM
Chuck a pencil in your drill and spin it against your disk sander! You can get a perfectly sharp point at whatever angle you like in no time flat. Works for making scribers and awls too.

Lew Barrett
11-17-2011, 11:38 PM
Chuck a pencil in your drill and spin it against your disk sander! You can get a perfectly sharp point at whatever angle you like in no time flat. Works for making scribers and awls too.

How much you charge for that?

Phillip Allen
11-17-2011, 11:39 PM
How much you charge for that?

that sander costs a lot more than a pen knife

Lew Barrett
11-17-2011, 11:43 PM
too young to have had much experience... and only a wild-eyed liberal would wear safety goggles to sharpen a pencil!

Us liberals can't be too careful! And how about the nose bag? Those pencil shavings can be downright toxic! I see a proud American workman building quality sharpened pencils since 2011! Conservatives like yourself will be the death or this uniquely American craft because by supporting a free market and letting large corporations have their way, those cheap labor rates in India will see this job exported and the industry devastated just like what happened to the spinach control business back in '09!

Dr. Arthur Trollingson
11-17-2011, 11:58 PM
What's the alternative, Lew? Let the Socialist Liberals regulate the industry to death?

I suppose you'd like to see federal licensing and oversight of professional pencil sharpeners. We can't be too careful, can we? Without proper regulation any huckster with a pen knife and a box of Chinese Dixon knock-offs could set up shop and undermine the integrity of the industry.

Of course this regulation won't come cheap. The true artisans will spend so much time and money on paperwork their craftsmanship will surely suffer. At the end of the day it's just a small price to pay in the mind of a big government liberal who just wants to feel good about his pencils.

Songololo
11-18-2011, 04:07 AM
But wait ....

For the small sum of $39.50, you too can provide a professional pencil sharpening service with Lee Valley's Little Shaver (http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=68746&cat=1,42936,42452):

http://www.leevalley.com/US/images/item/Gift/15p1601s2.jpg http://www.leevalley.com/US/images/item/Gift/15p1601s1.jpg


And for those who prefer using power tools, there is this option ... at least you don't need the sander ;) :

http://www.leevalley.com/us/images/item/woodworking/assorted/61n0505s2.jpg http://www.leevalley.com/us/images/item/woodworking/assorted/61n0505s1.jpg



If however, you are more interested in generating shavings at a rapid rate, than say sharpening and achieving that perfect pencil point, may I suggest one of these:

http://www.leevalley.com/en/images/item/woodworking/drilling/99k8801s1.jpg


For some woodworkers, pencil sharpening seems to be a serious topic: http://www.talkfestool.com/vb/other-non-festool-tools/2158-pencils-sharpeners.html

Nicholas Scheuer
11-18-2011, 05:37 AM
I know when the utility knives on my benches (basement shop & garage) need changing (I don't use my woodcarving knives for sarpening pencils) when they won't sharpen a pencil decently.

W have a hand-crank sharpener on the garage wall, but only my wife uses it. I consider a knife-sharpened pencil a thing of beauty, plus, it's good therapy.

Moby Nixk

isla
11-18-2011, 06:20 AM
I'm sure there is somebody in India who will sharpen your pencil for $8.

Prolly somebody in America who would sell you a dozen new pencils for $8

sailboy3
11-18-2011, 10:46 AM
WTF? A dust mask too?

http://i44.tinypic.com/35l9342.gif

sailboy3
11-18-2011, 10:47 AM
I could robably do a better job than this. They really don't look all that great.

http://i42.tinypic.com/5e60eb.png

Lew Barrett
11-18-2011, 11:32 AM
What's the alternative, Lew? Let the Socialist Liberals regulate the industry to death?

I suppose you'd like to see federal licensing and oversight of professional pencil sharpeners. We can't be too careful, can we? Without proper regulation any huckster with a pen knife and a box of Chinese Dixon knock-offs could set up shop and undermine the integrity of the industry.

Of course this regulation won't come cheap. The true artisans will spend so much time and money on paperwork their craftsmanship will surely suffer. At the end of the day it's just a small price to pay in the mind of a big government liberal who just wants to feel good about his pencils.

Doctor, to underscore just how critical this moment in time is to the hand sharpened crayonage business, note that most subsequent postings (following your own) have been responded to by people with significant skills and time invested in seeking out and using pencil sharpening equipment. Truly, this is a topic with legs! And see too, that as might have been expected from the start, there is considerable disagreement about the best technique to achieve enduring value. Truly, the WBF Bilge Motto is being proven yet again;

"No point too ridiculous to discuss ad nauseum, no argument too obscure to whittle to a nub."

Woxbox
11-18-2011, 01:09 PM
"No point too ridiculous to discuss ad nauseum, no argument too obscure to whittle to a nub."

Precisely. And we haven't yet touched upon the questions of waste and efficiency. I have an old Boston grinder which works, but it seems to take off three times as much wood to produce a fresh point as a few deft strokes with a sharp chisel do. Plus, the old Boston, trusty as it is, can be clumsy, breaking off the new point just as the job is being finished. A properly hand-sharpened pencil will last a lot longer.

Lew Barrett
11-18-2011, 01:44 PM
A properly hand-sharpened pencil will last a lot longer.

That will be fifteen dollars please!

Bill R
11-18-2011, 03:03 PM
This reminds me of my early days as an engineer, when I drew schematics on "C" or "D" size grid paper, using one of these:

http://leadholder.com/assets/lh-draft/kohinoor/kin-5611-2b_6h-slv.jpg

And I sharpened the point with one of these:

http://leadholder.com/assets/point/point-thumbs/hunt-boston-lp-thm.jpg

I honestly miss those days... there was a certain pleasure in a sharply pointed lead, all those plastic templates to draw shapes with, and my neatly lettered notes and component designations.... I really enjoyed drawing.
...
Still, the 'art' of drawing a schematic seems ot have been lost :(:(

Hey Norman- some of us still do it that way...

Nicholas Carey
11-18-2011, 03:28 PM
I'm I the only one who prefers a #1? And who doesn't enjoy flipping on the belt sander for this job?

I use B-grade leads. Nice and soft, with a vibrant black.

James McMullen
11-18-2011, 03:55 PM
Awww, you sucka's is all just a bunch of wannabe woodworking posers, man. Here's how a Master Carpenter does it for precision:

http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/48712/2596924030088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2596924030088484686eGjFXW)

Of course if I'm in a hurry, I'll just cut the bevel by eye with a wormdrive!

http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/13911/2737030720088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2737030720088484686JfBkHA)

Dr. Arthur Trollingson
11-18-2011, 06:01 PM
Doctor, to underscore just how critical this moment in time is to the hand sharpened crayonage business, note that most subsequent postings (following your own) have been responded to by people with significant skills and time invested in seeking out and using pencil sharpening equipment. Truly, this is a topic with legs! And see too, that as might have been expected from the start, there is considerable disagreement about the best technique to achieve enduring value. Truly, the WBF Bilge Motto is being proven yet again;

"No point too ridiculous to discuss ad nauseum, no argument too obscure to whittle to a nub."

I'm not too good at deciphering liberalese, but I think I get the gist. You're trying to tell me that this topic is just too interesting and important to derail with a political argument. I gotta admit, I've never heard such a crazy idea in all my time here. I'm pretty sure it's just a crafty avoidance technique from the Socialist Handbook, but I'll go sharpen some pencils with my buddy while we try to figure it out.

http://planetjan.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/bbpencil.jpg

Woxbox
11-18-2011, 07:34 PM
Here's proof that pencil sharpening technology is in serious decline: http://www.officemuseum.com/pencil_sharpeners.htm

http://www.officemuseum.com/images/ever_animation2.gif

http://www.officemuseum.com/images/plan_animation2.gif (http://www.officemuseum.com/pencil_sharpeners.htm)

leikec
11-18-2011, 07:43 PM
I use a Sharpie marker in my shop--it's a good thing to keep around as an example to explain away the quality of my finished work....

Jeff C

Durnik
11-18-2011, 08:32 PM
Bench grinder.. up against the side of the wheel.. pick an angle & roll her around.. ;-)

enjoy
bobby

Keith Wilson
11-18-2011, 08:43 PM
Here's how a Master Carpenter does it for precision:OK, there's the Post of the Month, at least. Y>:dY>

Phillip Allen
11-18-2011, 08:51 PM
This reminds me of my early days as an engineer, when I drew schematics on "C" or "D" size grid paper, using one of these:

http://leadholder.com/assets/lh-draft/kohinoor/kin-5611-2b_6h-slv.jpg

And I sharpened the point with one of these:

http://leadholder.com/assets/point/point-thumbs/hunt-boston-lp-thm.jpg



I honestly miss those days... there was a certain pleasure in a sharply pointed lead, all those plastic templates to draw shapes with, and my neatly lettered notes and component designations.... I really enjoyed drawing.

Of course, these days, the tool I use is Orcad.... no where near as fun, and frankly, not much faster, for me.... but overwhelmingly faster for the layout engineer, since Orcad outputs a netlist. The layout guy just pops up the component 'puppets' on the screen, and the interconnections are drawn in, automatically.... and as he moves the components around, the connections move with the part. Turnaround is vastly quicker.

Still, the 'art' of drawing a schematic seems ot have been lost :(:(

the CAD stuff we get in the form of 'blue prints' is poor generally because the operators are paid less and less and trained less into the bargain... I generally use the architectural prints but many times I find myself looking in the civil prints for the location of a wall... it is just plain lazy to leave that out…All sorts of information about the wall except where to put it… all other walls are there but there is always one missing… agravatin!

Breakaway
11-18-2011, 11:26 PM
Any day now, since this has been published and become known, he can expect the door to be knocked upon by OSHA, DEC, EPA, IRS, and by the People for the Preservation of Dry Lubricants and Cheap Trees.


Kevin

johnw
11-19-2011, 12:17 AM
I find a 3/4 inch chisel does an adequate and reasonably priced job of sharpening pencils.I would hesitate to call it artisanal and I would not dream of preying upon gullible people for money for the few seconds of my time it takes.Maybe I ought to reconsider.Why is it chisels do a better job than knives? No matter how sharp the knife is, it never works as well.

Woxbox
11-19-2011, 08:55 AM
Why is it chisels do a better job than knives? No matter how sharp the knife is, it never works as well.

I suspect it's becuase there's much better control over the angle with the chisel. The knife wants to dig into the wood because the downside isn't flat.