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PeterSibley
11-05-2011, 05:43 AM
Like the UK Pembleton? A Citroen 2CV front end and your choice of a BMW or Moto Guzzi engine . Love 'em but i can't have one in Oz . Are you 'Mericans allowed to have one on the road ?

http://www.3wheelers.com/pembleton02.jpg


https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jQgAAOxy3yNTglxn/s-l300.jpg

I really like them, I'd be tempted to give up bikes if they were legal here !Y>

http://www.pembleton.co.uk/PMC.html

http://www.pembleton.co.uk/BuildPics.html

WX
11-05-2011, 05:47 AM
That's very steampunk, I like it. How come they're not legal here Peter?

PeterSibley
11-05-2011, 05:53 AM
ADR regs I think ...Ian might advise if he drops by .

Paul Pless
11-05-2011, 05:58 AM
Are you 'Mericans allowed to have one on the road ?Of course. Land of the Free. . .

:d

The Bigfella
11-05-2011, 06:01 AM
Bikes are easier than cars here... and I think a 3 wheel Moggie replica might classify as a bike... perhaps?

Paul Pless
11-05-2011, 06:07 AM
and I think a 3 wheel Moggie replica might classify as a bike... perhaps?They do here as well.

The Bigfella
11-05-2011, 06:19 AM
I do have a large V twin engine sitting around here...

WX
11-05-2011, 06:24 AM
How about one of these?
http://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/lot/?id=XBCA37R0O7CK19DA

WX
11-05-2011, 06:31 AM
Or this.
http://performancedrive.com.au/cummins-napier-railton-replica-at-2011-goodwood-festival-of-speed/

PeterSibley
11-05-2011, 06:32 AM
Bikes are easier than cars here... and I think a 3 wheel Moggie replica might classify as a bike... perhaps?

Pembletons come as 3 wheelers too !

wharf rat
11-06-2011, 12:16 AM
Different states have different laws but typically kit cars can get licensed as replicas or special interest cars. There are a fair number of replica Morgans, Lotus 7s. Model A's, Cobra's. etc; even homebuilt cars like the Locost can be usually be registered without too much trouble.

Some states distinguish the difference between a bike and a car by the controls--handlebars and maybe hand throttle, brake, etc, it's a bike. A steering wheel with foot controls is often considered a car, but the lines a not set in stone--again it varies by state. A lot of parking enforcement cops use three wheelers with foot controls and steering wheels and they're sometimes licensed as scooters/bikes.

I sold a Guzzi Eldorado to a gentleman from California who was building a Moggie replica a couple of years ago. I kinda had mixed feelings--a favorite bike being parted out--but I thought this was a good cause.

Anyone ever built a Moggie with a Harley D v-twin? I would suppose a transmission could be an issue, but not a big one. A Mog with an attitude...

PeterSibley
11-06-2011, 12:32 AM
I actually think the Pembleton is better than Moggy (much as I love them..... I have a friend with a JAP engined one ) but the 2CV front wheel drive would beat axle hop any day .

purri
11-06-2011, 12:50 AM
I understand there are allowances for kit cars and limited production imports here provided it can pass engineering certification (AC Cobra repros etc).

The Bigfella
11-06-2011, 12:52 AM
Yeah, a friend is building a Cobra replica atm. The spare V twin I mentioned is a Harley.... but I have too many other projects to finish first

PeterSibley
11-06-2011, 01:13 AM
Ian ...you'd never fit !

leikec
11-06-2011, 01:17 AM
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u18/engineeringkid/Puma%20For%20Sale/puma1-1.jpg

One day I'd like to have one of these....

Jeff C

wharf rat
11-06-2011, 01:41 AM
I actually think the Pembleton is better than Moggy (much as I love them.....

It certainly is a beautiful car. Are 2CVs more available down under than they are here in the States? In the 70's we could find them fairly cheap--couple hundred bucks-- but they're pretty collectible now. Decent ones go for $3500USD and up.

Re Ian and a Pembleton, if he's as big as he appears in the pics on his Asia tour thread, he'd look like a kid in a kiddie car. He could always turn it into a monoposto :D

wharf rat
11-06-2011, 01:49 AM
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u18/engineeringkid/Puma For Sale/puma1-1.jpg

One day I'd like to have one of these....

Jeff C


Jeff, the Puma was a neat car. Economy of a vw with the handling and looks of a sports car. The Brazilians had it right, I think.

I managed a firm that looked into becoming a dealer for them in the early 80s. They tend to come up with regularity on thesamba.com (http://thesamba.com) In fact I'm thinking that one listed for sale there now was one of ours.

PeterSibley
11-06-2011, 02:08 AM
No, they're pretty rare and much loved by collectors .I wonder if the needed components could be imported from France ?

purri
11-06-2011, 02:34 AM
Deaux Cheveaux are indeed rare here (and gutless in the extreme). The R4 and variants were far more capable.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
11-06-2011, 03:01 AM
If you take the body off a 2CV - you get a nice light front wheel drive rolling chassis. with four wheels...

http://images.shiply.com/uploads/995455_big

If you lop off the unstressed bit at the back, turn the two rear suspension arms over - the two rear wheels sit side by side - with just enough gap to change the wheel - but you'll need a ring spanner. - Weighs two percent of buggerall.

WX
11-06-2011, 04:55 AM
Not a kit but we had a 1951 Citroen as our family car, I loved it.

http://www.artvalue.com/image.aspx?PHOTO_ID=1904403&width=500&height=500
Talk about style, this car had it by the bucket load.

PeterSibley
11-06-2011, 05:23 AM
Very nice !

PeterSibley
11-06-2011, 06:08 AM
Here's some fun !

http://www.cyclekarts.com/CycleKartGallery.html
http://www.cyclekarts.com/CycleKartSpecs.html

http://www.cyclekarts.com/smAleMG4091.jpg

Ted Hoppe
11-06-2011, 06:14 AM
What are the rules for a volkswagon pan and motor kit cars in OZ?

I have always fancied modifying an existing car into a fun retro sports car... some welding, fiberglass and epoxy could drop a cars weight, improve handing and grant a cool factor to a car that would legally be registered without special review. here in the states... A car that fall under limited smog regulations would face little resistance.

PeterSibley
11-06-2011, 06:19 AM
That would be a question for BF ...I've never owned a beetle .

The Bigfella
11-06-2011, 06:28 AM
Yeah... there were heaps of them here. The first restriction came on the shortened pans... some are still around, but trying to get a new shortened one through would be hard.

Its still relatively easy to do some things. The rules are on the NSW RTA website. Engine swaps are easy - given some rules that relate weight to capacity and whether or not forced induction. A friend is currently fitting a V12 into an E34 BMW body... something BMW never did.

They've tried to restrict things a bit, but where there's a will, there's a way. I've had discussions with several politicians on the issue btw... we keep working at it.

Ted Hoppe
11-06-2011, 06:30 AM
Peter...

Does this fall in line with your higher mileage motorcycle concept with a transference... I have thought a Morgan was a motorcycle..http://dw6y9k33y2rzj.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/2012-morgan-3-wheeler-front-view.jpg

Ted Hoppe
11-06-2011, 06:45 AM
It does beg the question of what is the difference between a very slammed Japanese drifter, a heavily modified BMW or a revisited car enhanced with a kit in the eyes of authorities. That in mind...keeping the serial carriage and engine block numbers the same does have it's advantages.

The Bigfella
11-06-2011, 06:51 AM
There really is a lot more freedom given to bikes. The main thing they seem to worry about is handlebars... a reaction to the old ape hanger craze

PeterSibley
11-06-2011, 04:09 PM
Not really Ted , pretty terrible drag coefficient and a fair bit of frontal area BUT ! it looks brilliant :d


Peter...

Does this fall in line with your higher mileage motorcycle concept with a transference... I have thought a Morgan was a motorcycle..http://dw6y9k33y2rzj.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/2012-morgan-3-wheeler-front-view.jpg

PeterSibley
11-06-2011, 04:10 PM
There really is a lot more freedom given to bikes. The main thing they seem to worry about is handlebars... a reaction to the old ape hanger craze

But don't cut the frame ... unless it's before about 1970 .

John Meachen
11-06-2011, 05:03 PM
There used to be a really diverse range of kit cars available here.Since the adoption of front wheel drive by all but Mercedes and BMW,the range has reduced a lot.Several variations of the Lotus/Caterham seven available,but not too much else demonstrating original thinking.I used to run one of these as a means of escaping the monotony of production cars;it was originally introduced at about the same time as another landmark car that had a transverse mid engine,but more people remember the Miura.
http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1516/1516102-2.jpg

wharf rat
11-06-2011, 06:30 PM
Here's some fun !

http://www.cyclekarts.com/CycleKartGallery.html
http://www.cyclekarts.com/CycleKartSpecs.html

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL282/9443996/17245530/399349597.jpg

You realize that this is Peter Stevenson of Stevenson Weekender boat fame? He started this a few years ago in California but I've read somewhere that he has since moved to Texas.

Cute, huh?

John B
11-06-2011, 07:59 PM
BIL's car from 2007.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/misc%20o7/231_3129_2.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/misc%20o7/231_3133_4.jpg

I saw a video of it running the other day but its still not on the road.

The Bigfella
11-06-2011, 08:27 PM
The AC Cobras have never really interested me that much. They aren't an overly attractive car. Dave Porter (of 18' foot skiff fame - he was world champion in the 60's with my mate Bazza, then later as a propellor maker) has a nice one that I've had a look at. We get a lot of them running around my local area on weekend runs.

What does interest me is the Jaguar replicas in the UK. You don't see many here... but a nice C, D or XK13 replica would be fabulous... if I could fit into one.

http://www.twrreplicas.com/_wp_generated/wpc545113e_1b.jpg

This site has some interesting options... but many of the links are dead

http://www.twrreplicas.com/index.html

ChaseKenyon
11-06-2011, 09:19 PM
The AC Cobras have never really interested me that much. They aren't an overly attractive car. Dave Porter (of 18' foot skiff fame - he was world champion in the 60's with my mate Bazza, then later as a propellor maker) has a nice one that I've had a look at. We get a lot of them running around my local area on weekend runs.

What does interest me is the Jaguar replicas in the UK. You don't see many here... but a nice C, D or XK13 replica would be fabulous... if I could fit into one.

http://www.twrreplicas.com/_wp_generated/wpc545113e_1b.jpg

This site has some interesting options... but many of the links are dead

http://www.twrreplicas.com/index.html


Some of the ones coming out of NZ are top notch also.

http://www.coventry-classics.com/1.htm

http://car-cat.com/img/image4386.jpg
(http://www.coventry-classics.com/1.htm)Ian I can not seem to find valid link to Tempero NZ. If I had he money I would have one of their XKSS Jaguars. With one slight aberration being left hand drive. I can drive RHD fine in UK and such but on American roads RHD can be dangerous in terms of blind spots. That is important because I would use it as my daily driver in good weather. I would appreciate anyone giving us a current link to Tempero web site.

I have to admit my top favorite Jaguar used to be

http://car-cat.com/img/image4384.jpg


THe HWM.


I don't think very many here are familiar with the actual speed of the XKSS. When Jaguar buit them they took the rear end ratio that gaave 190 mph on LeMans and dropped it to IIRC 148 mph. THat gave the XKSS undrer five second 0-60 mph times back in 1957 no less on skinny tires compared to now. I would have My XKSS set up with more modern wider wheels and tires a but have the tires and the wheels "appear stock".

John B
11-06-2011, 09:23 PM
I think the Tempero business was sold or broken up. However one of the principals still makes cars to order.. the last I'm aware of was a P4 destined for some overseas client.

The Bigfella
11-06-2011, 09:24 PM
http://car-cat.com/firm-851.html

Tempero seems to have vanished

John B
11-06-2011, 09:24 PM
I think the Tempero business was sold or broken up. However one of the principals still makes cars to order.. the last I'm aware of was a P4 destined for some overseas client.

oh yeah.. here we go (http://www.rodtempero.com/projects.html).

and these guys sound like the real deal for C types.

http://www.coventry-classics.com/1.htm
I'd love to visit them.

The Bigfella
11-06-2011, 09:27 PM
I think the Tempero business was sold or broken up. However one of the principals still makes cars to order.. the last I'm aware of was a P4 destined for some overseas client.

Yeah - Rod Tempero comes up in Google

http://www.rodtempero.com/index.html

John B
11-06-2011, 09:35 PM
An article on the P4 replica.\

http://www.drivesouth.co.nz/news/latest-news/ferrari-sports-replica-039sex-on-wheels039

Paul Pless
11-07-2011, 06:40 AM
The AC Cobras have never really interested me that much. They aren't an overly attractive car.

Perhaps a Daytona Coupe then??? expect to pay $5 to $10 million for one of the originals.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/2/AC-Shelby-Cobra-Daytona-Coupe_16.jpg

or a couple hundred thousand for replica version

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2456709345_6fb637f16b.jpg

The Bigfella
11-07-2011, 06:59 AM
Yeah... they made a bit of a name for themselves here a couple of years back when Peter Perfect was killed in one.

Paul Pless
11-07-2011, 07:17 AM
His coupe was beautiful.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Brock_-_Daytona_Coupe_-_Targa_Tasmania.jpg/800px-Brock_-_Daytona_Coupe_-_Targa_Tasmania.jpg

But the replica's name was made by the original's accomplishments. . .

In a two year period it won the following endurance events: Le Mans, Sebring, Daytona, Nurburgring, Monza. In 1965, despite no factory support, it won the World Manufacturer's Championship.

The Bigfella
11-07-2011, 07:24 AM
The best unusual kit car I ever saw was a Datto 260Z with the glue-on Fezza 250GTO panels... and a nice V8 in the front.

The roof line on the Datto was perfect for this...

http://www.shannons.com.au/library/images/auctions/J17EEL9GB3S367DM_medium.jpg

Paul Pless
11-07-2011, 07:32 AM
Do you know the story about Miami Vice's Ferrari Daytona? It was a replica built on a Corvette chassis. Ferrari was so upset by this that they gave the studio a new Testarossa to use in exchange for not using the replica any longer. . .

Paul Pless
11-07-2011, 07:45 AM
What about hotrods? Many of them are essentially kitcars these days.

http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/%7Ebwjones/wp-content/uploads/iblog/Lowboy.jpg

P-man
11-07-2011, 09:09 AM
how about a "Lotus"?

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z363/cosmopolitan101/1972 Westfield Lotus/1972-westfield-lotus-df2.jpg

P-man
11-07-2011, 09:12 AM
these Speedster replicas were popular for a while.
http://2-photos.ebizautos.com/5528/7322448/7322448_2.jpg

P-man
11-07-2011, 09:19 AM
Shay Model A
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1980-1989/1980-Ford-Shay-Model-A-Replica-Grey-Sidemounts-dh.jpg

boatbuddha
11-07-2011, 09:23 AM
these Speedster replicas were popular for a while.
http://2-photos.ebizautos.com/5528/7322448/7322448_2.jpg


I love those speedster replicas.

P-man
11-07-2011, 09:37 AM
GT40
http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad334/capital1auto/Ford/2009 superperformance gt40/82710001.jpg

SchoonerRat
11-07-2011, 10:28 AM
Back in the '70s, we had a family in the I-14 fleet - Father, Son, and Daughter all campaigned their own boats. In addition, between the 3 of them, they owned a fairly sizable fleet of these things - most of them in running condition.

http://www.ntscblog.com/locost/images/full/lotus_7_s1.jpg

Whenever tooling around town with one of them, the image of getting gassed and whisked off to "The Village" was was a constant companion!

wharf rat
11-07-2011, 03:08 PM
BIL's car from 2007.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/misc%20o7/231_3129_2.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/misc%20o7/231_3133_4.jpg

I saw a video of it running the other day but its still not on the road.

My guess this is a late 50's Berkley. I don't recognize the engine but early Berkleys used motorcycle engines. There were and maybe still are classes for cycle powered race cars. It was an inexpensive way to get a "real" sports car and get into racing.

John B
11-07-2011, 03:31 PM
It's an Excelsior engine IIRC.

John B
11-07-2011, 03:55 PM
On that 2007 trip ( down to Wellington) I had a look at his old bike at the same time. Some will remember the thread

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/misc%20o7/231_3137_8.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/misc%20o7/231_3141_7.jpg
..

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
11-07-2011, 05:01 PM
Well spotted on the excelsior....

In its native habitat
http://www.classicmotorcycles.org.uk/bikemuseum/images/excelsior/excelsior_1955_talisman_tt2_250cc.jpg

I though it might have been a Villiers 2T as this found its way into a number of minicars....

http://www.classicmotorcycles.org.uk/bikemuseum/images/dmw/dmw_1961_dolomite_II_250cc.jpg

John B
11-07-2011, 05:04 PM
I didn't spot it actually , I wouldn't know one if it bit me. I just recalled the name being mentioned when we were talking about the Berkley and watching the video of it running a couple of weeks ago.

The Bigfella
11-07-2011, 06:57 PM
Another I've always liked is the Porsche RS / RSK replicas. Good for a VW Beetle pan... which, as we know, will take a range of engines much gruntier than the original Porsche stuff.

http://www.thunderranch.com/images/RSK/rearlawn.jpg

Paul Pless
11-07-2011, 07:00 PM
And 962 replicas. . .

http://www.auto-smart-cars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/dauer-962-lm-3.jpg

purri
11-07-2011, 07:07 PM
^erk!

Paul Pless
11-07-2011, 07:09 PM
ERK can refer to:


Extracellular signal-regulated kinases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracellular_signal-regulated_kinases), a kind of protein molecule

Erk may refer to :


Erk (party) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erk_%28party%29), a Muslim socialist organisation active in Bashkiria, Bukhara and Turkestan from 1919 to 1921
Erk/Liberty Democratic Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erk/Liberty_Democratic_Party), a political party in Uzbekistan
Erk Russell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erk_Russell), a former American football coach for Georgia Southern University
Erk, an AC 2 or Aircraftsman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraftsman), i.e. a Royal Air Force ground crew, in British slang
Erk, a mage from Fire Emblem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Emblem) for the Game Boy Advance
Edmund Frederick Erk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Frederick_Erk) (18721953), a Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Pennsylvania
Kutlay Erk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutlay_Erk), a former mayor of the Turkish Cypriot part of the capital of Cyprus, Nicosia
South Efate language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Efate_language) ISO 639-3 code, a language spoken on the island of Efate in central Vanuatu
Efek Rumah Kaca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efek_Rumah_Kaca), Indonesian indie band


???

purri
11-07-2011, 07:29 PM
^ none of the above. An expression of being impressed/ intimidated.

Paul Pless
11-07-2011, 07:36 PM
^ none of the above. An expression of being impressed/ intimidated.

Oh. . .


Powering the 962 is the same 2994cc water-cooled Porsche flat-six found in the race car. A pair of intercooled KKK turbochargers are employed and the engine has 'softer' cams for more tractable driving. Thanks to racing catalytic convertors and Bosch Motronic 1.7 engine management, the 962 meets European emissions regulations. Attached to the engine is a unique transmission that uses the normal 962 manual box and clutch. But instead of using a gear lever, the driver select ratios via the Tiptronic S style knobs on the steering wheel.
At 1080kg, the 962LM may weigh around 180kg more than the 962 racecar, but its power-to weight ratio is still better than the McLaren F1's. In a drag start, 0-60mph takes around 2.6 seconds in first gear! Five seconds later you have doubled your speed again. Ultimately a shade over 250mph is possible. A top speed test was conducted on the Ehra-Leissen VW test track, where 404.6 kph was achieved.



http://www.supercars.net/gallery/4839/1754/740778.jpg

The Bigfella
11-07-2011, 07:43 PM
That could be fun. Almost as fast as a half decent motorbike.

johnwill
11-07-2011, 11:32 PM
Berkeley? Here's a photo of my dad and me circa 1960 in his two cylinder model, not the high performance three cylinder. No matter, it was great fun.


http://www.pearsy.co.uk/images/JW_Berkeley.jpg (http://www.pearsy.co.uk/images/JW_Berkeley.jpg)

The Bigfella
11-07-2011, 11:43 PM
C'mon... someone has to post a photo of a Lightburn Zeta

The Bigfella
11-07-2011, 11:45 PM
Oh, OK... if you insist. Lightburn were a washing machine manufacturer IIRC, who decided to diversify into cars

This is the Lightburn Zeta Sports. The normal Zeta is too ugly to show here.

http://www.imcdb.org/i194140.jpg

PeterSibley
11-07-2011, 11:51 PM
If Darth Vader drove a car ......


And 962 replicas. . .

http://www.auto-smart-cars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/dauer-962-lm-3.jpg

The Bigfella
11-07-2011, 11:53 PM
Nah... Darth Vader rides a motorbike. You have seen the helmet I'm using in Asia, haven't you?

wharf rat
11-08-2011, 01:33 AM
Oh, OK... if you insist. Lightburn were a washing machine manufacturer IIRC, who decided to diversify into cars

This is the Lightburn Zeta Sports. The normal Zeta is too ugly to show here.

http://www.imcdb.org/i194140.jpg

Thanks for taking our delicate sensitivities into mind when deciding not to post the pic of the Zeta. Maybe someone should start a thread on really ugly cars.

Unfortunately curiosity got the best of me and I googled the Zeta and watched a vid on utube. Amazingly it sounds like a washing machine too. Interchangeable transmissions maybe? :D

PeterSibley
11-08-2011, 02:06 AM
Lightburn also made and continue to make cement mixers ... is there a lesson there ?

wharf rat
11-08-2011, 10:06 PM
Lightburn also made and continue to make cement mixers ... is there a lesson there ?

Yes, at some point before you get too far along, hire a graphic designer! Or even a hair stylist -- someone who know something about style and flair! :D

Can you imagine sitting in some meeting discussing the latest improvement in top loaders, maybe the newest shade of white, when someone pops up with "I know! Let's build a sports car! We got big machine things and guys that can hook metal together. It will be great!"

Personally I love to see this real "thinking outside the box" thing--people taking chances. It certainly worked for David Brown, and Lamborghini.

MurphIschia
11-09-2011, 05:06 PM
Here are some shots of my Beck 550 Spyder replica.
It was a fun project but a bugger to get registered in Cali.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m151/Murph360/Good%20bye/DSC00835.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m151/Murph360/Good%20bye/DSC00830.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m151/Murph360/Good%20bye/DSC00834.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m151/Murph360/Good%20bye/DSC00833.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m151/Murph360/Good%20bye/DSC00837.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m151/Murph360/Good%20bye/DSC00839.jpg

Garret
11-09-2011, 05:24 PM
That 550 is pretty!

Back in the 70's I had a Fiberfab Avenger. Looked 95% like a GT40. No doors - the whole cab (windshield, where the doors would be, & part of the roof) lifted up. Based on a 1300 VW.

It was body #2 IIRC, & they hadn't quite worked out the front body mounts yet. Well, let's be honest, there were no front body mounts & we had to fabricate them. It was "fondly" known as the "Abortion". Finest kind of paint job: Krylon bright red.

We put fat tires on it & a dune buggy exhaust. Would scare people for miles. Handled surprisingly well - until it didn't handle at all when the inside wheel tucked under.

I'll never forget being stopped in North Conway NH for going 75 in a 35, no brake lights, tail lights, turn indicators, wipers, horn & I forget what else he found (or didn't as the case may be). Made for an interesting day - involving several hours in jail.

Looked pretty much like this except red

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRL7i8iWmzI168KHPT1H8vtT2eyptpUC A0xo1yOuj0g_OGt37ACnw5UDLU

The Bigfella
11-09-2011, 06:17 PM
What engine have you got in the Beck, Murph?

Ahh... back wheel tucking under.... swing axle eh?

Phil Y
11-09-2011, 08:44 PM
MGTD

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MG-TD-Kit-Car-Project-Car-/250915337040?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item3a6bb83350#ht_1487wt_952

Garret
11-09-2011, 09:04 PM
Ahh... back wheel tucking under.... swing axle eh?

VW Bug motor & chassis - so yes indeed.

The Bigfella
11-09-2011, 09:30 PM
VW Bug motor & chassis - so yes indeed.

They fixed that for the '67 model year with a Porsche designed IRS that is really good.

Garret
11-09-2011, 09:46 PM
They fixed that for the '67 model year with a Porsche designed IRS that is really good.

Yup - it was a 66 IIRC.

John B
11-09-2011, 09:50 PM
Berkley motor cars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Cars

engine.


After 163 of the SA322 cars had been manufactured, a change was made to the SE328 model with a 328 cc Excelsior (http://forum.woodenboat.com/wiki/Excelsior_Motor_Company) engine offering 18 bhp (13 kW; 18 PS). The production run ran from Jan 1957 to April 1958 with chassis numbers from 164 to 1422, many being exported to the United States (http://forum.woodenboat.com/wiki/United_States). The

The guy who owns it and the guys who have rebuilt the motor seem to agree that its an Excelsior.

PeterSibley
11-09-2011, 09:59 PM
That's not a bad kit , it would come up well!


MGTD

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MG-TD-Kit-Car-Project-Car-/250915337040?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item3a6bb83350#ht_1487wt_952

The Bigfella
11-09-2011, 10:05 PM
That's not a bad kit , it would come up well!

Yeah... its based on cars that are pretty much unobtainable here though... and it doesn't have suspension, engine or gearbox

PeterSibley
11-09-2011, 10:08 PM
I'm not going there but are these things flexible ,could you substitute a local GMH ?

The Bigfella
11-09-2011, 10:12 PM
I don't even want to think about it... maybe a mid-size Ford from the same era?

skipper68
11-09-2011, 10:20 PM
You guys SAY you build boats, yet will order a kit car, instead of building one from scratch? Oh ya, it IS the bilge.....carry on. ;)

purri
11-09-2011, 11:30 PM
They fixed that for the '67 model year with a Porsche designed IRS that is really good.

Not all that good. The favoured option is a (stronger) type 3 conversion, SSP box with Porsche 924 axles (as my offroader has)

The Bigfella
11-09-2011, 11:40 PM
Not all that good. The favoured option is a (stronger) type 3 conversion, SSP box with Porsche 924 axles (as my offroader has)

Not a lot of difference with the Type 3 IRS, the torsion bar is a bit thicker IIRC and I'm pretty sure you can slot them in to the Type 1 setup - other than that, they don't fit due to different tracks. The stronger modified setups use Porsche forged trailing arms, rather than axles - the VW trailing arms being stamped and welded. Mine has Porsche 930 CVs on the axles, done by the guys at Punchbowl (Boris and Co.)... bigger balls in them

seanz
11-09-2011, 11:54 PM
Like the UK Pembleton? A Citroen 2CV front end and your choice of a BMW or Moto Guzzi engine . Love 'em but i can't have one in Oz . Are you 'Mericans allowed to have one on the road ?

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL282/9443996/17245530/399330592.jpg




I really like the look of that car, but I don't have much more to add...

So, how about an "un"-kitted car?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe_mS_ucYCM

skuthorp
11-10-2011, 05:28 AM
There was a Jag C type replica at the island a few weeks ago, a good one too apart from the tyres. Right down to the very spartan interior of the original but I don't know about the gear box oil leaks.
Here's one from NZ
http://www.classiccar.co.nz/articles/copy-cat-coventry-classics-jaguar-c-type-replica-200

PeterSibley
11-10-2011, 05:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=A_PKHhul3sQ

skuthorp
11-10-2011, 05:39 AM
Some nice Morgan 3 wheelers here, check out the stripped down model at about 1.47.

purri
11-10-2011, 05:42 AM
Not a lot of difference with the Type 3 IRS, the torsion bar is a bit thicker IIRC and I'm pretty sure you can slot them in to the Type 1 setup - other than that, they don't fit due to different tracks. The stronger modified setups use Porsche forged trailing arms, rather than axles - the VW trailing arms being stamped and welded. Mine has Porsche 930 CVs on the axles, done by the guys at Punchbowl (Boris and Co.)... bigger balls in them

Mine may have 930 axles but certainly Kombi CVs and remember it is a CB with a lesser rear axle width than the usual!

skuthorp
11-10-2011, 05:42 AM
You guys SAY you build boats, yet will order a kit car, instead of building one from scratch? Oh ya, it IS the bilge.....carry on. ;)

What Skipper, something like this in tulip wood?
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/3859/Hispano-Suiza-H6C-Tulip-Wood-Torpedo_1.jpg



T (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic/3859/Hispano-Suiza-H6C-Tulip-Wood-Torpedo_2.html)hen there's th Weymann system, fabric over wood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weymann_Fabric_Bodies

Canoeyawl
11-10-2011, 03:16 PM
Lets not forget Bamboo...

http://alt-a.bitg.net/nightmobile/cars/images2/90000/8000/300/98329.jpg

MurphIschia
11-10-2011, 06:46 PM
VW Bug motor & chassis - so yes indeed.
2165cc VW Type 1 engine
Custom Tube Frame

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m151/Murph360/Good%20bye/DSC00843.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m151/Murph360/Good%20bye/DSC00841.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m151/Murph360/Good%20bye/DSC00842.jpg

Garret
11-10-2011, 06:48 PM
That is significantly nicer than the Fiberfab. 1300cc, stock Solex, nothing even resembling that piece of art.

Paul Pless
11-10-2011, 06:51 PM
That is significantly nicer than the Fiberfab. 1300cc, stock Solex, nothing even resembling that piece of art.Shoot. . . . . . .its nicer than some original Spyders that I've seen.

MartinC
02-14-2018, 05:18 AM
For anyone still curious about the Pembleton, here is my 4 wheel Brooklands and more can be seen on the Pembleton Forum. http://www.thepembleton.org.uk/
(There are two currently in Australia).

PeterSibley
02-14-2018, 05:55 AM
They would be an expensive build in Australia Martin, 2CVs are very rare here.

jonboy
02-14-2018, 07:24 AM
Most of the images posted on this thread, though not all, are not coming up, either have a little black box with an x or a message from photo*ucket or a similar one from Picturetrail......
just trawling through various other threads with pics and there seems to be no problem . Any ideas ?

Garret
02-14-2018, 07:50 AM
Most of the images posted on this thread, though not all, are not coming up, either have a little black box with an x or a message from photo*ucket or a similar one from Picturetrail......
just trawling through various other threads with pics and there seems to be no problem . Any ideas ?

I see a # of pics - but there are lots lost to the PB massacre. There may be something local to you that's blocking some - creating the box with an X.

MartinC
02-14-2018, 08:25 AM
I have dug up the following:
http://peters-pembletons.blogspot.co.uk/
I understand that Peter has sadly passed away, but he is much admired over here by those who knew him. I think he imported most of the 2cv parts from here in the UK via the Pembleton community.

leikec
02-14-2018, 10:06 AM
Be nice if the Hawk AC Bristol Ace kit car was available in the US. The Cobra kit cars are too over the top for me.

Jeff C

Paul Pless
02-14-2018, 10:15 AM
The Cobra kit cars are too over the top for me.

Jeff C seriously???

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a1/9c/a7/a19ca7d166d6f50570da8306228a47e7.jpg

Art Haberland
02-14-2018, 10:28 AM
I looked into building a Lotus 7 replica but gave up when I learned that to register and title such a beast in NJ would require it to pass all current safety and emissions laws. Emissions are easy, just use the newest engine you can fine. Safety on a 7.. now that's a joke

Paul Pless
02-14-2018, 10:32 AM
I looked into building a Lotus 7 replica but gave up when I learned that to register and title such a beast in NJ would require it to pass all current safety and emissions laws. Emissions are easy, just use the newest engine you can fine. Safety on a 7.. now that's a joke


safety inspection means working lights, indicators, brakes, horn, safety belts, fenders (sometimes); it doesn't necessarily mean a modern crash test certified car. . .

birlinn
02-14-2018, 10:59 AM
seriously???

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a1/9c/a7/a19ca7d166d6f50570da8306228a47e7.jpg

That is horrible! the spoiler, wing and junk, sorry, supercharger sticking through the bonnet just ruin things. And as he has no helmet, and obviously isn't racing, why the numbers on the sides?
Fine for someone with the mental age of 10.

Garret
02-14-2018, 11:05 AM
safety inspection means working lights, indicators, brakes, horn, safety belts, fenders (sometimes); it doesn't necessarily mean a modern crash test certified car. . .

Won't that vary from state to state? I also wonder about ODB2 hookup. VT requires a check from that for annual inspection.

Art Haberland
02-14-2018, 03:13 PM
safety inspection means working lights, indicators, brakes, horn, safety belts, fenders (sometimes); it doesn't necessarily mean a modern crash test certified car. . .

They said ALL safety equipment applicable for the current year. That would mean 5mph safety bumpers, air bags, door intrusion bars, and the like. things you just cannot add to a lotus 7. It also explains why kit cars of any sort are almost non-existent in NJ. The few Cobra and 7 replicas all have out of state plates.

it means if I wanted to build a 7, I would probably have to do it on the bones of an MGB or Fiat Spider. Might be able to do it on a Miata with a lot of creative cutting to keep the trans tunnel and firewall intact

leikec
02-14-2018, 04:11 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2IeH4D3Wz4jOCsYPbSStjE5jfqJOlb wdRtGOPDmihprRTAI8

Compare the above picture to Paul’s Mattel Hot Wheel car :D

Jeff C

PeterSibley
02-14-2018, 04:21 PM
http://www.spitfireart.com/demo25.jpg

http://www.spitfireart.com/demo9.jpg

http://www.spitfireart.com/demo1.jpg

http://www.spitfireart.com/Gallery.html

Art Haberland
02-14-2018, 06:54 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2IeH4D3Wz4jOCsYPbSStjE5jfqJOlb wdRtGOPDmihprRTAI8

Compare the above picture to Paul’s Mattel Hot Wheel car :D

Jeff C

I always thought the 289 was prettier than the 427.