Old MORC design

[boatlover]

Some years ago, there was a MORC design that was called "Cap ???????". My memory says that it was from a French designer, and was possibly called Cap Trafalgar.

I don't trust that memory for some reason.

I remember a picture and maybe a barebones set of lines, in the design section of "Yachting" (US. The boat had a slight reverse sheer - one of the few that I have ever thought was good looking. There was a center cockpit and an aft cabin with two berths/.

Can someone confirm the name of the design - or provide a correction - and tell me who the designer was ?

TIA.

Regards,

Ed R

[Wild Dingo]

bump... curiosity here ;)

[TR]

Ed,

Try searching for the work of Jean-Jacques (or JJ) Herbulot (1909-1997). He worked in plywood, mostly smaller boats, and designed boats with reverse sheer. His motto was "Sailing for everyone"

One of his more famous designs is called Cap Corse. The boat you are after may be related.

All the best, Tad

[ahp]

If you are looking for this type of boat you might also consider a Shaw 24. They are a light displacemnt boat with combination keel/centerboard and were rigged as either a sloop or yawl. I thought they were quite attractive.

[boatlover]

Thanks for the replies.

Got to sign off now and go to my sons house to help get a bandage back on a recently repaired cat named Oscar.

Regards,

Ed R

[boatlover]

Again: thanks for the replies !

I will check out JJ Herbulot and Cap Corse in a little while.

The Shaw 24 I recollect from about the same time period in an article in MotorBoating and Sailing.
The article reported on a trial sail in Long Island Sound, in a pretty good breeze. The reporter wrote that larger boats out that day all had serious reefs in. The Shaw had the main down and was making good progress through the water, running quite comfortably in "jib and jigger" mode.

A word about the cat: my younger son has a neutered male cat called Oscar, who lives mainly in the house, but about a week ago, Occar decided he needed to go walkabout. Two days later, he shows up with a very nasty bite/wound under his right foreleg.

Vet fixed that up but it required son\me stitches. We had had to truss the bandage on the stitches - round turns of tape on the bandage, then over the back/shoulder, behind the other leg and back around, and a couple more round turns on the bandage - in order to keep Oscar from removing the bandage.

The stitches came out this AM. My daughter asked the vet to redo the truss, but the vet said it wouldn't be needed.

When she got Oscar home and let him out of the pet carrier, the bandage came out separately.

Oscar now has a new-new bandage, with truss.

Regards,

Ed R

PS: I know - half of this post is D&P and half is MNBR.

[Billy Bones]

Originally posted by boatlover:
...We had had to truss the bandage on the stitches - round turns of tape on the bandage, then over the back/shoulder, behind the other leg and back around, and a couple more round turns on the bandage - in order to keep Oscar from removing the bandage.... I wish I could comment on the boat, but instead I can offer the suggestion of an infant t-shirt for the cat. Put it on like a miniature person. You can tape the arm of the t-shirt below the wound and it will stay on no matter how much worrying the animal does. This I learned after abortive attempts at collars and dressings on my german sheps, who take XLs.

[boatlover]

Originally posted by Billy Bones:

[/qb]I wish I could comment on the boat, [/QB]{?QUOTE}

I wish you could to, BB. I have checked the JJ Herbulot Cap Corse, and that is not the design I am thinking of. Cap Corse is too short, and not enough heft/too much droop in the stern quarters.

The design I am remembering had pretty good freeboard, and was sort of blocky in the stern.
Otherwise the characteristics come close to Cap Corse: plywood, low cuddy. shallow fin keel/centerboard combo. I seem to remember that the topsides were diagonal, finished bright.

Shane: I will be checking the other JJH designs in a little while.

[/qb]


My son just dropped by. Bandage is holding fine after about 4 hours. Trying to get a tee shirt on Oscar ... hmmm. He is a fairly small cat. Not sure it would work. Thanks, BB.

I will continue the search for the design, and post a link if I find it.

Regards,

Ed R

[Hwyl]

I think you might be reffering to a Philippe Harle design. Where is Lucky Luke when you need him?

[Venchka]

Like this...

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/voiliers.harle/muscadets.jpg

OK, no center cockpit or aft cabin. Size is roughly in the MORC range. Still an active class in France.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[ 04-02-2005, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: Venchka ]

[TR]

JJH also created the Cap Horn, Cap Vert, and Cap Camarat. But I have no further info.

Tad

[boatlover]

Tad:

I have tried Googling on JJH (+Cap Camarat), (+Cap Horn), and (+Cap Vert). No match to the image in my head. Horn and Vert seem to be close in length, but otherwise not right. Harle came up in a number of the references I got from Google. None of his "vins d'France" series were matches.

Wayne:

That boat in the foreground is pretty, and fairly close. The sheer line is right, but as you said "no center cockpit ot aft cabin." I also seem to recollect that the stem had less rake to it. Do you know more about the boat ?
Designer ? Design name ?

Edited to add: If the name of the design is the same as that on the jpeg, belay that last.

Whomever:

There is an out of print book of JJH designs, aimed at amateur builders, which came up in a number of the Google hits, from used book dealers. Anyone have a copy ? and a scanner ?

I might be able to match one of the drawings to the image in my head.

I may try e-mail to Lucky Luke - if I can locate a post from him.

Regards and thanks to all,

Ed R

[ 04-03-2005, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: boatlover ]