Performance 23' sailboat

[richtes]

Mostly just lurk around here, and have found a lot of useful info.

I've got study plans for a few boats, but not exactly what I'm looking for. Close is a Northwest Marine K-23. Retractable keel for trailer, bowsprit, and general layout. Just would like something with a little more sail area. Retractable bulb keel.

In a plastic boat, I guess the Ultimate 24 would be what I'm looking for, but I'd rather build my own sailboat. Had a C&C 30, and don't want another all fiberglass boat.

If there's a design I'm missing that's closer to what I've described, I'd like to know.

Thanks,
Rich

[garland reese]

Have you looked at Dudley Dix's DiDi 26? Maybe more boat than what you're looking for....... dudley dix (http://www.dixdesign.com/)

[ 01-20-2003, 11:45 PM: Message edited by: garland reese ]

[scottek]

Check out Thompson Performance Design's custom designs. Any of their custom designs are available for home build with wood as an option.

For your size request I would check out the T650, T7, or the T750.

T-Boat Home Page (http://www.tboat.com)

-YF Scott

[scottek]

http://www.tboat.com/t750images/t750-pic1.jpg
http://www.tboat.com/t750images/t750-gallery_pic5.jpg

[scottek]

Or if you are not limited to a monohull, check out Farrier design's trimarans, with plans available for wood construction:

Farrier F-82 (http://www.f-boat.com/pages/trimarans/F-82.html)

http://www.f-boat.com/media/desF-25C/fwd.jpg
(Note: picture is a F-25C not an F-82)

[Nicholas Carey]

You might check out this one, available from Our Sponsor®©&trade:

http://www.woodenboatstore.com/store/images/400128.JPG (http://www.woodenboatstore.com/store/prodinfo.asp?number=400-128&variation=&aitem=22&mitem=23)

Cute little double-ender by Joel White, looks speedy. Has an option to build with a transom stern that the study plans note would be easier to build and probably faster.

Study plans shown in 40 Wooden Boat, also available from Our Sponsor.

[richtes]

Thanks for the replies! I'll look at them both tomorrow at work! Too slow at home.

Got to start something before my tools are seen idle and their worth questioned.

Rich

[Nicholas Carey]

Or the International Star http://www.starclass.org/

http://www.7diststar.org.br/fotos/europeu2001/europeu2001_007.jpg

I believe the World's a few years ago in Europe had more than 2000 boats on the starting line. Whoo!

Class rules allow them to be built in wood or glass. I've always thought stitch-n-tape plywood with a cold-moulded, vacuum-bagged bottom would rock. The conventional wooden boats can't take the modern rigging stresses. but epoxy/glass/plywood would be stiffer and lighter than glass. Since it's a development class (exclusive of hullform), it shouldn't take to much to get approval for ply.

[fair&fair]

Nicholas,
The Star is indeed an awesome high performance boat. I have raced them on and off for 10 years or so. You have gotten a few things wrong though that should be clarified. First off, any regatta with 2000 boats on the line would be a world record by a long shot. I used to race optimist dinghies, which always see the worlds largest fleets, and I think the largest was somewhere around 450 boats. At this size the fleet is separated on four different race courses. Moreover, the Star Worlds is not a regatta that just anyone can sign up for, hence the fleet tends to max out at 80-100 boats (usually with the likes of Paul cayard, Torben Grael, Vince Brun etc. in the ranks).
As far as construction goes, the rules are pretty well-defined. Being a boatbuilder I've thought it would be nice to build a cold molded Star, or build one out of plywood, but the rules are pretty prescribtive as to how the boat is to be built. The rules for wood built boats state that the boat has to be plank on frame, no plywood. Appropriate woods for each structural member are spcified in the rules.
That said, as you suggest, one can petition a change. I am still thinking about doing this myself, but I am not doing it under the false illusion that the class will accept anything willy nilly. The Star class is without doubt the most well organized classes sailing today, and this fact is clearly evidenced in the thoughtful rules that govern all aspects of the class. I don't think I've ever read another set of class rules that is as complete and well informed as far as construction is concerned.
The boat is pretty awesome though of you're looking for performance. I would also like to suggest the 110 class as another high performance boat. The 110 is a great boat that is easy to build and cheap to buy. The racing is great and the rules governing building are pretty loose, so one can get as crazy as they want. Some people think the 110 is a goofy boat, but it really moves.

[imported_Conrad]

Yup, Stars are great boats, I still miss mine! But as I get older the cockpit seems to get smaller and the boom ever lower! There are a number of plans available though for modifying them with more traditional cockpits (with bench seats) and raised booms. The ultimate light air day sailer! :D It would be tempting to just build one with ply, forget about having it be legal- lots of used keels/rigs/sails around at reasonable prices too.