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Gerarddm
09-09-2011, 05:48 PM
Seen on Huff Post. To my mind, no matter how innocent the guy sounds, this sounds like another voter-count suppression ploy by the Grand Old Plotters:

WASHINGTON -- An internal memo sent around the Wisconsin Department of Transportation went public this week, sparking controversy over its instructions that employees should not tell state residents they can receive free photo identification for voting unless they ask.
The memo in question, sent out by former Republican state Senate aide Steve Krieser, the executive assistant of the Department of Transportation, is causing backlash across the state because of legislation signed in May (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/wisconsin-voter-id-law-scott-walker_n_867090.html) by Republican Gov. Scott Walker requiring voters to show valid photo ID when going to the polls.

Obtaining a state-issued photo ID for the purpose of voting is actually free of charge. But the catch is that voters have to be in the know: If they don't specifically ask for the free ID, they'll get charged $28 (http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/drivers/driver-fees.htm#identification). Krieser told The Huffington Post he has no plans to adjust the policy.

The Capital Times obtained the internal memo (http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/host.madison.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/65/265445bc-d8cd-11e0-b017-001cc4c002e0/4e668d1c66c3d.pdf.pdf) circulated on July 1 by Krieser, in which he instructs them not to tell residents about the free IDs: "While you should certainly help customers who come in asking for a free ID to check the appropriate box, you should refrain from offering the free version (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/capitol-report/article_335f59fa-d8fe-11e0-8a23-001cc4c03286.html) to customers who do not ask for it," the memo says.
Krieser argued that there are temporary signs posted at all of the Department of Motor Vehicle stations in the state to inform people they must check the box to request a free ID. He said there are plans to place permanent signs, but that he had no timeline for it.
The Democratic Party of Wisconsin has already pounced on the controversy, sending out an email to supporters questioning whether they should take Krieser at his word that there are actually signs on display.

Even Rep. Evan Wynn (R-Whitewater), who voted for the voter ID law, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/129460218.html) that he found the internal memo troubling.

Fernir
09-09-2011, 06:06 PM
From July.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0G01zbHGM8

wardd
09-09-2011, 06:22 PM
republicans at play

AussieBarney
09-10-2011, 01:22 AM
No wonder you have people who run amuck with an AK 47. The guy at Station #1 was trained to put up as much obstruction as he could. American democracy at work. Here in Oz, your voter rego is so simple it is a pleasure to be in their office

Meli
09-10-2011, 01:45 AM
On her 18th birthday, my girl received a very pretty birthday card from the electoral office, also enclosed was her enrolement form. :D

Fernir
09-10-2011, 02:05 AM
No wonder you have people who run amuck with an AK 47. The guy at Station #1 was trained to put up as much obstruction as he could. American democracy at work. Here in Oz, your voter rego is so simple it is a pleasure to be in their office

There's a reason why most Americans believe that Government doesn't work.

Unfortunately, we believe that our experiences of government is the same the world over. We can't imagine a benign government.

Todd Bradshaw
09-10-2011, 02:27 AM
The guy who blew the whistle on the memo got fired today.

AussieBarney
09-10-2011, 02:37 AM
There's a reason why most Americans believe that Government doesn't work.

Unfortunately, we believe that our experiences of government is the same the world over. We can't imagine a benign government.
Come to the land of Orstralia. We have one of those. The government stays out of your private business unless you make a complete pest of yourself. And for the most part they are pretty useless anyway.

Meli
09-10-2011, 03:01 AM
Come to the land of Orstralia. We have one of those. The government stays out of your private business unless you make a complete pest of yourself. And for the most part they are pretty useless anyway.

True, except for ensuring that most have free medical, affordable University, good social safety net etc and only 5% and a bit unemployment. Not perfect but..
I don't know how we do it when our average personal income tax is about the same as the U.S, the country is about the same size if you chop off alaska and we only have 22 million paying for the infrastructure and the lowest paid can afford the basics with help from our useless federal government.
Something is very wrong in the USA, but despite all the brains on this forum.....?