Sunfish type plans / offsets

[SmallScale]

Looking for a SMALL sailboat to build. I live near a 22 acre kidney shaped lake. I have sailed the lake (pond) in a "sunfish" and thought the size was about right.

Does anybody know where I could find some offsets to build a sunfish knock-off, or other similar design? I could "measure one up", but would like to avoid this effort if possible.

Any info or redirection would be appreciated.

[ahp]

You might also consider the Nutshell sailing pram. Plans and kits are sold by the Woodenboat Store.

[Ray Frechette Jr]

You might want to check out the Mini Cup by Stevenson's Projects. This is a small sunfish type sail boat that you make yourself. They no longer sell the plans, but if you go to their site you can download them for free.

http://www.stevproj.com/FastSailrs.html

You can also check out the rest of their site for some neat small boats with character.

stevproj.com

[Mike Keers]

Another possibility is the Glen-L 10, a ten foot scow-type small boat...looks like a Sunfish (or is it the Sailfish with the footwell?) with part of the bow chopped off, but it's got a stayed cat-rigged sail, not a lateen.
http://www.glen-l.com

[Wiley Baggins]

How about the British

British Moth (http://www.britishmoth.co.uk/assets/images/gc_moth1.jpg)

or American

American Moth (http://mothboat.tripod.com/CMBA/cmba.htm)

Moth?

[Eric Sea Frog]

Please look for the Duckworks Site, and specifically the design competition pages, 2001 and 2002. Nice, free plans of two-sheets projects.
Also at Uncle John's, for ree plans of a sailing dinghy.
Stevenson indeed has free plans for the Mini-Cup.
Ya're lucky!

[Art Read]

One added advantage of a "dingy" type design like the "Nutshell" etc. as opposed to a "Sunfish" is that it'll be a nice little boat for just "messing" about in when the there's no wind or you just feel like fishing or rowing your sweetheart out to watch the sunset or whatever. "Sunfish" is a fun boat to sail, but that's about all it's good for. ('Cept maybe as a swim platform on the mooring for the kids to play on...)

[holzbt]

Atkin designed a boat named "SKIMMER". 13'2 1/2"LOA x 3'6"beam. It looks like a flat bottom sunfish. The plans are available from Pat Atkin or you could try your local library. Motor Boating's Ideal Series vol. 40 "Professional Designs For Amateur Boat Builders" and vol. 41 "The Plywood Boatbuilder" both contain the full plans and building instuctions.

[swingking]

Free plans for Tern 12' at:

http://www.svensons.com/boats/Tern/

Mat

[Dave Carnell]

There was a MINIFISH design in MI years ago. I can supply a copy of the article for $2.

My infamous $200 Sailboat is a better solution. It can match SUNFISH performance while keeping you dry, and is probably the easiest, cheapest boat there is to build.

[cs]

Here is a photo of the Stevenson's mini-cup.

http://byyb.org/starboard/mod/userpage/images/cheapthrills.jpg

Ray mentions above that you can get the plans for free. I would like to add that I was at the BYYB Spring Fling and this boat was there and it not only looked fantastic, but outsailed most anything there.

Chad

[Bruce Taylor]

Mini-Cup plans are available online at:

http://www.stevproj.com/MiniCup.pdf

At 125 lbs, this is seems like an excellent alternative to a Sunfish.

[John of Phoenix]

Another comment on the Stevensons' Minicup. If you do nothing else, download and look the plans over. There are 31 pages of drawings, pictures (a bit grainy), and detailed written instructions. The Stevensons do a great job of walking new builders through the details of construction and also provide lots of tips that can be used on any small boat. Besides, you can't beat the price.

[SmallScale]

Thanks for all the suggestions! I think the MiniCup fits the bill. I have downloaded the plans and am just about to start the procurement binge.
Can anybody point me toward a sail plan describing the rig that is pictured in the replies to my main post? I think this is called a "marconi" rig? A rig with a main and a jib? I think it looks a little more appealing than the standard rig described in the plans.

[Don Z.]

http://www.sailingsource.com/24metre/images/kryss%20Miami.jpg

I guess a mini-cup would be easier than this...

[Matt Middleton]

All right now, Don. Just what design is that?
It looks pretty cool- like a sports car version of a sailboat!

[Paul Jeffrey]

Matt that looks like one of the mini 12 meters that where being built in the early to mid 80's. I saw some of them up at Whidbey Island Race Week in 1984.

Smallscale contact Chad Smith [posts as cs] he set the boat up with a main and jib. He can give you some info on his boat and what he did. See the photo in the post above. Not the mini 12 but the first picture in this thread.

Paul J

[garland reese]

http://www.sailingsource.com/24metre/images/W02-Roni%20Saksi.jpg

http://www.sailingsource.com/24metre/

You just HAD to throw that one in there, Huh Don!

Dang!!, There's another boat that needs to be built! My dear ol' Dad-In-Law is disabled.............wonder if he needs a new hobby??? This class was used for the Paralympics in Sydney Aus (2000 maybe..).

This is the first picture of a strip built 2.4 I've seen.....wish there were plans for this little boat. I think it is a developement class, and I don't think any commercial plans are available to the home builder......are they? It is a beautiful little design....looks like fun.. there is another older thread regarding this design, here on the forum. I think it originated from a discussion much the same as the one here....Sunfish plans, etc.

Garland

[ 06-17-2002, 11:27 AM: Message edited by: garland reese ]

[Don Z.]

Yes, it's a 2.4m... the term "mini-twelve" being an anathema... Specifically, this measures to the same rule as the sixes, eights and twelves, the difference being the solution equals 2.4 metres... A mini-twelve was built to no particular rule, but looked neat.

There are designers with plans... you could also make your own, if you were talented. There are several strip built ones, the rule is specific on scantlings. This will be my next project when I return from the mobilization. The Nationals were held in Miami this year... the class is larger in Europe than here, especially in Sweden. If anyone on the Chesapeake is interested, I'd love to get a class together... CBYRA rules specify six boats for a one design fleet... surely there are five others out there who'd love to get a few of these together to race?

[garland reese]

Hi Don,

Do you have any specific information on where to get building plans? I am not talented enough to develope plans on my own. I may never get to build one, but I'm interested to know of a source, just in case.......
I'd love to see some of these racing on our little reservoir. The size of these seem to fit the size of our little lake so much better than those J24s around here.

Garland

[David Tabor (sailordave)]

Don: I've lusted after this type for years. Actually there is a beat up old fiberglass hull in St. Michaels being used as a flower pot!!!

If you find some plans let me know; I'd love to give it some serious contemplation! I'm a wood hack, not a naval architect!
David

[ddave83]

I have to add my name to the list of people that would love to get a set of 2.4 meter plans!

The Norlin Mark III is a popular 2.4 meter design. The US builder is Gavia Yachts. http://www.gaviayachts.com/

Another website - http://www.malmstenboats.nu/stradiva.htm - seems to indicate that some Norlin Mark III molds were made from some fine wooden originals. The plans have to be out there somewhere.

Sounds to me like there's at least some market for these plans......