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imported_Dutch
08-21-2002, 04:46 PM
I am looking to build a trailerable cruiser in the near future and would like some advice on what the best design would be. I want something under 2000 pounds about 20-22 feet- could sleep 2 fairly comfortably on 2-5 day excursions, could be outboat powered ( preferably in a well)be seaworthy enough to take offshore a few miles, and be economical on fuel consuption-I want something salty looking and have seen some of Benford and Devlins designs tht may be what I want. Any help would be appreciated.By the way I am looking for a power boat design.
[ 08-21-2002, 06:18 PM: Message edited by: oldmanofthesea ]
Paul Griffin
08-21-2002, 04:57 PM
If this link does not work just look under Design/Plans for the topic "Trailerable Cruising Sailboat Ideas"
http://media5.hypernet.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=001834
[ 08-21-2002, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: Paul Griffin ]
A. Mason
08-21-2002, 05:43 PM
Oldmanofthesea: Are you talking about a powerboat or a sailboat? Years ago, the word "cruiser" meant a powerboat, either inboard or outboard. A "cruising boat" meant a sailboat with cabin accommodations. - Anita
imported_Dutch
08-21-2002, 06:16 PM
I am talking about a power boat
A. Mason
08-21-2002, 06:35 PM
My father designed a pair of 22-foot sport cruisers with cabin & galley for "The Rudder" back in 1949, but their designed displacements are way over what you are looking for. The vee-bottom BLACKFISH was 3,830 lbs. and the round-bottom TAUTOG was 4,220 lbs. Both of them were inboards. - Anita
Alan Peck
08-21-2002, 08:53 PM
OldManoftheSea: I have been looking for something similar. Perhaps the Double Eagle by Glen-L marine would fit the bill. The hull weight with engine and fuel should be close to 2000 lbs.
It will sleep two and I think it looks traditional. Its not plank on frame, but is made of plywood.
check glenl.com
gary porter
08-21-2002, 08:57 PM
Take a look at www.xyz.net/~mgrt (http://www.xyz.net/~mgrt) These are the Tolman skiffs that are being built by quite a few people. There are other examples at
www.fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html (http://www.fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html) The designer lives in Homer Alaska, the hull can be built as an open boat all the way to a quite comfortable cruiser. The newest design is 22' x 8'. Anyway its a very seaworthy boat and worth looking at. Good Luck
Gary
[ 08-22-2002, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: gary porter ]
Ron Williamson
08-21-2002, 09:08 PM
Didn't Tom Lathrop build something like that?I think she was called Liz.
Try the search thing up on the right.
R
Tom Lathrop
08-21-2002, 10:21 PM
My boat, now called the Bluejacket 24 is 24x8 feet with a weight w/o engine of 1850 lbs. The all up cruising displacement for two is 2850 lbs and the trailering weight including trailer is 3000 lbs. Power is a 50hp four stroke outboard and top speed runs between 22 and 25 mph depending on load and conditions. Fuel mileage averages about 8 1/2 mpg.
The other boats mentioned are all much heavier.
Arch Davis has the Jiffy 22 and Kilbourn Adams has the Skiff America 20 dory. These boats and mine are quite different and each has its intended purpose. The Bluejacket 24 was designed with pretty much your requirements in mind with the additional goal of very low speed planing capability.
Plans are available for the Bluejacket. if you contact me by e-mail, I can send more information. You can see a review of the Bluejacket 24 on the messing about website at:
http://www.messing-about.com/smallboats/newindex2.htm Just scroll dow the page.
I am currently working on a 20 foot version in convertible and pilothouse configuration.
[ 08-24-2002, 07:02 PM: Message edited by: Tom Lathrop ]
warthog5
08-21-2002, 10:57 PM
If you want to build a Double Eagle, I've got all the frames and stem waiting for ya'. :D
Frank Hagan
08-22-2002, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Tom Lathrop:
You can see a review of the Bluejacket 24 on the messing about website at:
http://www.messing-about.com/smallboats/newindex2.htm
In the near future (like when I correct my spelling errors!) I'll move this article to messing-about.com's Small Boats (http://www.messing-about.com/smallboats) That's when it will "go public" but everyone is welcome to visit now (comments are welcome!) There will be a couple of minor corrections to the copy after my last correspondence with Tom.
I bought Tom's plans because I have a serious case of boat lust for the Bluejacket 24. Its a bit bigger than you cited, but it is in the right weight range. Tom's plans will also be reviewed on my web site, but I can tell you that they are much more complete than almost any other plans I've seen. He includes quite a few pictures of the building process of Liz as well as a narrative that should help guide a boat builder through the process. I'm at least a year away from building another boat ... that "honey-do list" grew enormous in the year and a half it took me to build my Weekender! This weekend I start on the second story deck, but that's another story ...
DougWilde
08-22-2002, 12:11 AM
Another of my favorite designs. Please note that it is designed for two outboards...if one dies the other will bring you home.
JogAlong
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dbwilde/BoatScans/JogALong.jpg
Doug Wilde
Mark Van
08-22-2002, 12:29 AM
I designed a 20 foot boat like that for my Dad to build, it is not as fast as tom's boat, My Dad has a 25 hp four-stroke outboard, and cruises at 7 knots at 4,000 rpm. I think a 50 should push it at 11 to 12 knots. It is very comfortable to sleep aboard, designed for someone who is 6'5" tall. You cans see Pilgrim IV in the Launchings in WoodenBoat 167, or on my web site.
http://markvdesigns.com
I am still putting the finishing touches on the building plans, but study plans are available.
(I know I am not supposed to use this forum for self-promotion, but I am paying for adds in WoodenBoat, so I should be excused)
Mark
Mike Vogdes
08-22-2002, 09:55 AM
Hey Tom,
Blue Jacket looks very nice, Tried to reach you via e-mail to no avail. Would you please e-mail me in reference to your 20' version.
Thanks, Mike
gary porter
08-22-2002, 12:52 PM
Sorry about the post above,, I think it will work fine now. These boats are very light weight but sturdy and seaworthy. Mine will run 30mph with an old tech 70hp two-stroke. I usually run about 20-25mph.
Gary
cmorse
08-22-2002, 06:38 PM
In your search, review some of Sam Devlin's designs that can be viewed on his website: www.devlinboat.com (http://www.devlinboat.com)
I've owned two and they are wonderful vessels.
Wayne Williams
08-24-2002, 05:14 PM
Antonio Dias has design called Tautog that's about what you describe. Reviewed in Woodenboat #156, Sept/Oct 2000. I've got the review in front of me. Purty boat with one of those easily driven hulls like the handy billy. 25' LOA, 7' Beam. The designer specifies a 15-25 horse outboard in a well. She sleeps two in a raised deck forward w/ room for a minimal gally and head. Standing room in the wheelhouse and best of all she's only 1800 pounds dry weight (not including engine and stores).
Frank Hagan
08-25-2002, 06:03 PM
My review of Tom's Bluejacket 24 has been moved ... most links work, but we're still working on the rest of the site. Anyway, the full URL is http://www.messing-about.com/smallboats (when we move it from the opening page, the URL will change to http://www.messing-about.com/smallboats/bluejacket.htm)
Meerkat
09-03-2002, 07:37 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/ego/lewisboatworks/html/Chugbuild_a.htm
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