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11-17-2004, 07:42 AM
I am going to be building carvel planked peapod this winter with a group of furniture design/woodworking students at the UW here in madison. the big logistical problem is that the university shop is on the seventh floor and the freight elevator is maxed out at 13'10" (with a little room to spare) if the boat is held at a diagonal. i can use the plans for the mystic peapod as a guide and design/redraw one to 13'6", or, alternatively, i was hoping for 13'6" peapod plans to exist somewhere. does anybody have any good suggestions of where to find plans for what i am looking for? any help or good leads would be greatly appreciated. additionally, does anybody know if jimmy steele is still around, and if so, would he have plans, and how i could contact him. thanks for any help.
11-17-2004, 08:02 AM
Does the shop have a window the boat will pass through? That would be no challenge for engineering students at Harvard (or is is Yale) and should even be manageable by UW students.
11-17-2004, 12:16 PM
R.H. Baker Boat Works has plans for the 12' 10" 'Kid's Pod'. The lines were taken off an old 'pod by the Bath Apprenticeshop.
More info is available on the Baker Boat Works web site. Click here. (http://www.by-the-sea.com/bakerboatworks/bbpeapod.html)
From the seventh floor window on a no-wind day, and we want pictures! ;)
More seriously, is that 13'10" the space diagonal of the elevator? Boats are a bit tricky to fit into boxes, having protrusion and cutaway from simple straight line measurements. I'd hate to have shrunk the design and then find it was still not fitting.
(And some freight elevators have removable ceilings.)
11-17-2004, 01:01 PM
Doug Hylan's "Beach Pea" is exactly 13 feet long. It was designed for lapstrake ply, but perhaps the lines could be used for a carvel planked version? You might try contacting Doug to ask.
See: www.dhylanboats.com/index2.html (http://www.dhylanboats.com/index2.html)
11-17-2004, 01:05 PM
A zip line from the window directly into University Bay on lake Mendota.... Call me when you get ready to do it as it should be worth watching. Seriously though, I'd dummy-up some kind of hull-sized shape and see if it really fits in the elevator before starting construction.
11-17-2004, 02:51 PM
Is this on the top floor?
If not could you raise the elevator to a floor above yours and then lower the boat down the shaft
with the elevator shut off? or even use the the elevator to lower the boat with it tied to the bottom?
11-17-2004, 03:05 PM
Wait for it to snow and just slide it out of the window onto the snow! It will reach the ground around June 1, 2005. :D
If you like, I can rumage through Mr. Gardner's books tonight and see if he has a peapod to suit your elevator or window.
In the Swamp. :D
11-17-2004, 05:28 PM
Thanks all for your input...
i have already mocked up a 13'6" boat with a 50" beam amidships and a plumb stem(although it won't be plumb)out of some luan plywood strips and it fits into the elevator. I measured the elevator awhile back and i figured a boat of that size would fit (un) comfortably, i too was worried about the bulbousness-bulbousity-bulbitude-whatever, the peapodlike like shape of the peapod. I figured i'd see what fit and then go from there. The hylan beachpea is a nice looking boat. i don't see why she couldn't be built carvel-a construction type that seems most relevant and with the most transferrable skills for what are essentially a group of art students who want to use wood as a medium. i did inquire about any large windows and there are two large fire doors that open out to nothing-i thought it'd be a great photo op-lowering a peapod down seven stories and all-but i think the idea was a bit too cavalier. bummer. And we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed for all that snowfall smile.gif nothing like a good attempt by Ma nature at one's life to keep them motivated-a kind of snow ark perhaps?
Todd, the boat construction is also open to anyone who wants to see it. i'll be starting after MLK Jr. Day,feel free to stop by. I'd sure like to cross paths with you while i am still in Madison.
Too cavalier? Nah, just a record-breaking attempt.
The current public record is http://cowlove.com/allison/eject/, a 23.5' Bolger Light Schooner from a third-floor apartment.
I'm not sure how the comparison of heights, weights, and LOA goes. You'd surely be a contender, though!
11-17-2004, 10:53 PM
John Gardner's carvel peapods are 14'-0" and 14'-3" L.O.A. The plans are in Building Classic Small Craft (14'-0") and Classic Small Craft You Can Build (14'-3").
In the Swamp. :D
11-18-2004, 06:08 PM
11-18-2004, 06:33 PM
Very narrow, unforgiving stairs i'm afraid. The building in question is considered by most in the greater Madison area to be the ugliest, least functional structure on campus. I am sure Todd would back me up on that. I checked all the staircases, and they are all way too narrow and with a tiny landing in between levels. rumor has it the building is slated for demo in the next couple of years...bummer too, its only thirty five years old.
I think i've got a good plan of attack ( which came about after talking to Doug Hylan this morning). I am gonna recruit my neighbor, the engineer, to take joel white's peapod and shrink it down from 14' to 13'6". He has all the nessecary CAD software to shrink the boat down appropiately. In other words, push and pull on her until everything's tip top. Thanks all for taking an interest, i'll post some pics once i we get started.
11-19-2004, 08:37 AM
Josh, you must be referring to the Humanities building. Seventh floor of ugly building in Madison can only mean that! I don't think there are any windows in that building big enough to get a boat out.
I like Todd's zip line suggestion but you'd have to do it from the roof. :D
Gee, somedays I wish I was still there.
[ 11-19-2004, 08:40 AM: Message edited by: Dave R ]
11-19-2004, 09:17 AM
If the building is gonna be demolished than remove the boat via crane threw the roof
11-19-2004, 06:51 PM
That's the one! so you are an alumn of the UW? I am not, but i am sure looking forward to building a boat with all the woodworking/furniture design students. they seem really excited. i'm gonna post pics of the progress on the forum (assuming i'll be able to figure that out) so at least you can live vicariously through web images...unless you make a roadie down from MN. Also, i plan on having the boat done in time for display at the WCHA booth at canoecopia here in Madison.
where is Roch? I am going to be moving to Duluth in June, and will be setting up a new and improved version of my WI shop-will you be anywhere nearby? lastly, the professor who is facilitating my program is calling it "boatyard in the sky". I think that is appropriate, and i'll pass along Todd's zipline idea. it's a good one.
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