Walter Baron LYS

[jclays]

Looking for anyone that has or is building Old Warf Dory by Walter Baron 20ft Lumber Yard Skiff. How was the build? If finished and in the water how did she handle? Any pictures??
I am going to order plans for my next build this fall. I am doing some recon work prior to the build
Thanks
Jim

[Spokaloo]

Search the forum, there's lots of data here on the LYS and the Brockway it was based on.

Also, go here: http://www.stagboatworks.com/

I chronicled my build on the website, you can click the image on the front page of the LYS or you can go to the top bar, plus there's dropdown menus on top to get from page to page.

I love mine, it's bullet proof, easy to use, maneuverable, and has done her fair share of towing logs, moving boats, carrying big loads (over 1000lbs), fishing, and other hard service on the waterfront since completion.

E

[jimkeen]

Contact this gut he seems pretty happy with his boat. When you consider the maritime history of Liverpool that is a stiff bill.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=167375196646263&set=a.167375193312930.52916.159470154103434&type=1&theater

[jclays]

Eric
Since you've built the 16ft LYS and also to some of you guys with a lot more knowledge than I. I've been looking at the various LYS and was thinking of starting a 20ft such as Walter Baron's design. I realized that my working room currently will limit me to an 18ft range. Eric I like the looks of the 16 ft LYS sport you just completed. Since Walter Baron doesn't make an 18ft am I being simplistic in thinking that if I just scale up all the dimensions given in the 16ft build by 11.25% I would have symmetrically increased the 16ft LYSS to an 18ft and would have a pretty balanced boat in looks and performance as the original 16ft????
Thanks in advance
Jim

[Spokaloo]

You'd end up with a slightly wonky boat, because the 20 is actually longer, but I don't think his side depth changed in the same volume, but I don't have my plans on me today (I'm on shift until Saturday). I will reiterate that the 16 footer is a HUGE boat for the given dimensions. Is there a particular reason you want such a large boat as the 20' or stretching to 18'?

Here's my 16 footer running under a dam with moderately high river flow. A cousin of mine wanted to try out his new GoPro camera, so we tried to think of something absurd to do. 3 guys around 200lbs a piece, and you can see how much room is left in the boat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuX2YVP0Yjo

E

[jclays]

I would feel more comfortable fishing 3 in open water ( Pacific ocean) in a larger boat. I was thinking if you increased all dimensions and measurements equally by the same factor you would get the same boat but at 18ft.

[Spokaloo]

Are you doing the paddy fishing out there for yellowtail and calicos, or are you going to run out for albacore and dorado?

E

[jerry bark]

I have a set of the plans and have read the instructions of course. Walter tells how he developed the panel shapes by making models of heavy paperboard and playing around until he had just what he wants.

So, you could follow his lead and build a 16' LYSS and then a scaled up version and compare them side by side. My hunch is that since the panels have very modest curves that you might come out OK by scaling it up. I would give it a go with a 1" = 1' scale factor and see how it turns out. The biggest thing I would look out for is getting too much rocker aft. you will want a fairly straight run aft for good planing performance.

Good luck,
Jerry

[jclays]

Are you doing the paddy fishing out there for yellowtail and calicos, or are you going to run out for albacore and dorado?

E
Gonna look for kelp paddies and rock piles. Also though of a bigger boat so that I might install a motor well. Pull in the outboard when in the kelp. Just a lot of thinkin right now for the fall project.

[jclays]

I have a set of the plans and have read the instructions of course. Walter tells how he developed the panel shapes by making models of heavy paperboard and playing around until he had just what he wants.

So, you could follow his lead and build a 16' LYSS and then a scaled up version and compare them side by side. My hunch is that since the panels have very modest curves that you might come out OK by scaling it up. I would give it a go with a 1" = 1' scale factor and see how it turns out. The biggest thing I would look out for is getting too much rocker aft. you will want a fairly straight run aft for good planing performance.

Good luck,
Jerry

My thoughts when I read his website where he explained his process with the models. I was going to build the 16ft to scale then take all the measurements and scale them up and compare. I think they will almost be identical since the design is very straight forward with no complex curves.

[jerry bark]

if you want a motor well you should find a design with a motor well that is a trusted and well tested design. if you just expand a design and then cut in a well there is no telling how the boat will perform.

A motor well will suck up interior space, but i do not know what you will gain. A transom hung outboard will tilt up the same as a well hung motor.

Jerry

[jclays]

if you want a motor well you should find a design with a motor well that is a trusted and well tested design. if you just expand a design and then cut in a well there is no telling how the boat will perform.

A motor well will suck up interior space, but i do not know what you will gain. A transom hung outboard will tilt up the same as a well hung motor.

Jerry

Just thinkin.. I know the Brockways had that option. I do like the looks of Walter Barons LYS Sport. Just the right amount of rocker and the shear looks great.

[portcitypirate]

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum.

I'm in the process of building a 16' LYSS by Walter Baron. It is my first build. It's going great, but I've got a question for those who have built one before me.

All of the pictures I've seen show a tall console with the boat being driven from a standing position. I would like to have a setup more like a "flats" style fising boat with a casting platform in the bow and aft. The platform in the rear would double as a bench seat from which to steer the boat from a seated position, with a small console.

Is the rocker and bow height too much to allow this?

Will keep the forum updated with some pictures.

Thanks!

[Spokaloo]

PCP, start your own thread, and put in LOTS of photos!

I'd say it'd be cake to do that build how you want to. The console will just need to be very, very firmly attached to the bottom in that area. The rocker isn't too much on the LYSS to put it there, and she'll benefit from a motor with power trim when it's flat and fast out.

If you have any questions, there's lots of photos of all the steps on the website in my signature.

E

[Stu Fyfe]

LYS's all over the Cape. The shell fishermen love them.