Sarah Palin and the embarrassment for legacy media

[pefjr]

Looks like the Sarah Hound Dog Brigade or should I say parade, can't find what they were looking for in those emails. Can't even find any gossip. :D



http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100091820/american-way-sarah-palin-email-frenzy-backfires-on-her-media-antagonists/

Now , is this embarrassing to any of our left leaning bilge rats? Norm? Any of Norm's disciples willing to take the opportunity to say, oh........ something like, "Looks like I have been foooooooooolish?"http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing013.gif

[Norman Bernstein]

Now , is this embarrassing to any of our left leaning bilge rats? Norm? Any of Norm's disciples willing to take the opportunity to say, oh........ something like, "Looks like I have been foooooooooolish?"http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing013.gif

Is there some reason you're invoking my name?

I never made any comments, one way or the other, about Sarah Palin's emails. I know you like to engage in tokenism and straw dogs, but your continued assumption about what are supposedly my beliefs is getting very old. Feel free to criticize me for what I have actually said.... but stop putting words in my mouth. I don't do that to you, nor to anyone else. An apology here would be appropriate.

[Tylerdurden]

Is there some reason you're invoking my name?



It's called your non stop progressive propaganda.

[BA.Barcolounger]

Jon Stewart did a whole segment on it on Monday.

[wardd]

is there some reason they should not be available to the public, it's the law you know?

i personally think the records of public officials should be open to the public and i thought the right is all for transparency, perhaps i was wrong

[pefjr]

Is there some reason you're invoking my name?

I never made any comments, one way or the other, about Sarah Palin's emails. I know you like to engage in tokenism and straw dogs, but your continued assumption about what are supposedly my beliefs is getting very old. Feel free to criticize me for what I have actually said.... but stop putting words in my mouth. I don't do that to you, nor to anyone else. An apology here would be appropriate.My goodness Norm, you even tried to blame her for the Tucson shootings. You owe Sarah the apology, so go ahead, make your apology right here anytime.

[Norman Bernstein]

My goodness Norm, you even tried to blame her for the Tucson shootings. You owe Sarah the apology, so go ahead, make your apology right here anytime.

We were talking about you stuffing words in my mouth. You've already criticized me for previous statements about SP, but your criticism in the OP was uncalled for, and THAT requires an apology. Don't try to deflect.

[Phillip Allen]

is there some reason they should not be available to the public, it's the law you know?

i personally think the records of public officials should be open to the public and i thought the right is all for transparency, perhaps i was wrong

transparency? Palin holds no office at this time but guess who does :)

[Tylerdurden]

Don't try to deflect.

Sound advice from the king of deflection!

[Phillip Allen]

Sound advice from the king of deflection!

Norman is not the king of deflection... try again

[wardd]

transparency? Palin holds no office at this time but guess who does :)

aren't those emails from her short career as governor?

[pefjr]

We were talking about you stuffing words in my mouth. You've already criticized me for previous statements about SP, but your criticism in the OP was uncalled for, and THAT requires an apology. Don't try to deflect.Oh, you mean the emails? No, I have not seen any comment from you about the emails. Could it be there is nothing juicy? I think you know what I was saying about your uh... lets just say...a long history of threads critical of Sarah. Don't you think it's humorous Norm that the press can't find a single email to chew on?

[wardd]

what about that republican think tank wanting the emails of college professors in wis that had any mention of maddow?

[Tylerdurden]

Norman is not the king of deflection... try again


Really, what threads have you been reading? I see a guy who posts 6 or more left wing threads daily and as soon as the pressure gets too much he suddenly finds other interests. I call that deflection.

Norman is about the most intellectually dishonest poster here. He claims he is a centrist but never posts centrist. He posts progressive non stop then when called on it posts about movies and trivia till the heat is off.

[Phillip Allen]

aren't those emails from her short career as governor?

figured out who I was referring to regarding transparency?

[S.V. Airlie]

I just want to know who paid $0.25 cents a page since there are 24,000 of them? :) The$0.25 amount is the going rate from what I can see. Might be more if some of those pages are in color!

This is assuming that there is only one copy! :)

[Norman Bernstein]

Oh, you mean the emails? No, I have not seen any comment from you about the emails. Could it be there is nothing juicy?

That right, apparently, there is nothing significant in the emails.... which is why I never posted a single word about them.


I think you know what I was saying about your uh... lets just say...a long history of threads critical of Sarah.

I get it. Because I've been critical of SP in the past, it's OK to presume that I'd be critical of SP concerning the emails. It's called 'typecasting', Bud, and it's disingenous and really disprespectful. Criticize me all you want, for what I've said.... but don't assume that you automatically know what I think about other topics.


Don't you think it's humorous Norm that the press can't find a single email to chew on?

I don't find it in the least bit humorous. Her emails are public record, and there's nothing in them that deserves comment. I don't criticize people for things they haven't done, words they haven't said, or writings that they never wrote.....

...unlike you.

[wardd]

figured out who I was referring to regarding transparency?


transparency? Palin holds no office at this time but guess who does

it seems you think since she is no longer in office her emails should be left alone

i would like comment from others on how you interpret his statement

[BrianY]

On behalf of all liberals, left wing nutjobs, socialists, America-haters, Muslims, homosexuals, anti-christs, heathens, free thinkers, radicals, welfare recipients, liberal print and media journalists, and all others that find Sara Palin and those who like her and agree with her views to be a little frightening and dangerous as well as deserving of satire and derision, I officially and unequivocably hereby apologize for assuming that there'd be "juicy bits" in the emails and I congratulate and commend Sara Palin for keeping those "juicy bits" out of the emails. We were wrong about the emails. Sorry to have caused Sara Palin any inconvenience.

Satisfied?

I didn't think so....

[Soundbounder]

Jon Stewart did a whole segment on it on Monday.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-june-13-2011/pmail

[Dan McCosh]

I just want to know who paid $0.25 cents a page since there are 24,000 of them? :) The$0.25 amount is the going rate from what I can see. Might be more if some of those pages are in color!

This is assuming that there is only one copy! :) Probably the same people who insisted that an email had to be printed out to put it on the internet.

[S.V. Airlie]

What a waste, Dan!

[Bobcat]

transparency? Palin holds no office at this time but guess who does :)

Do you know that the emails from her time as governor, right?

[S.V. Airlie]

If anyone wants to find "dirt", they will regardless! Finding "dirt" depends on the size of the shovel!

[ljb5]

I'm curious why the Ignorance First! gang was so insistent that we not read them.

[bobbys]

Lets see from the Huff post Warrd and Norm love to bring here every day.

With more than 24,000 pages of emails expected to be released (totaling 250 pounds of paper), The Huffington Post needs your help sorting through the documents. Please read over these emails and tell us what you find. See anything interesting on Todd Palin? Sarah's vice presidential run? Something entirely new? Tell us about anything notable you find here or email us at palinemails@huffingtonpost.com (%20palinemails@huffingtonpost.com). (Be sure to let us know the page number.)
Click here (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/10/sarah-palin-emails-released_n_874247.html) for live blog updates on details and revelations from the release..

Lets think back, President Obama says leave families out of it, The Huff post got a press seat for their work for him.

Now as you can read they are Particularly looking for some thing about Todd.

Does not take much of a guess to see they are looking for something personal .

Well at least one Huff post writer said to his credit...

The jokes on us.

But will Norm and Warrd get it?

[Norman Bernstein]

But will Norm and Warrd get it?

I get it just fine, but you are apparently clueless. Read posts #2 and #17, whewre I make it clear that I said NOTHING about SP's emails.... you're just playing the same fool as pefjr, stuffing words and beliefs into my mouth.

[pefjr]

But will Norm and Warrd get it?Norm acts mad that they can't find anything but praise. He should be glad, it will save him a lot of time that he has been wasting on her for 2 and a half years now. Strange Norm can't laugh at this.

[pefjr]

On behalf of all liberals, left wing nutjobs, socialists, America-haters, Muslims, homosexuals, anti-christs, heathens, free thinkers, radicals, welfare recipients, liberal print and media journalists, and all others that find Sara Palin and those who like her and agree with her views to be a little frightening and dangerous as well as deserving of satire and derision, I officially and unequivocably hereby apologize for assuming that there'd be "juicy bits" in the emails and I congratulate and commend Sara Palin for keeping those "juicy bits" out of the emails. We were wrong about the emails. Sorry to have caused Sara Palin any inconvenience.

Satisfied?

I didn't think so....:Dgood enough for WBF, but did Norm sign off on this?

[wardd]

she was a part time public official and as such her records should be open, what's wrong with that?

[S.V. Airlie]

Damn...I hope we don't go back to the Obama's BC! And that would only be one page! If some do, it will be another 12 pages..:)

[ccmanuals]

:Dgood enough for WBF, but did Norm sign off on this?

Now, who's obsessing on Palin?

[Norman Bernstein]

Norm acts mad that they can't find anything but praise. He should be glad, it will save him a lot of time that he has been wasting on her for 2 and a half years now. Strange Norm can't laugh at this.

Having a good time?

Jerk.

[wardd]

Palin and her staff were known to use private email accounts to conduct state business.

One high ranking Department of Natural Resources official, Marty Rutherford, sent Palin three emails to her government account between Dec. 4-6 before Michelle Fabrello, the coordinator for constituent relations, responded.

"I wanted to let you know that this is a `public' address for the Governor, it is not one that she has access to," Fabrello wrote.


"Thank you so much!! I have the Governor's personal email as well, so I'll just use that for awhile," Rutherford responded in a Dec. 8 email.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/14/sarah-palin-emails-missing_n_877051.html


wouldn't that be illegal?

[pefjr]

Jerk.Starting an ad hominey garden? Beanny wrote the book on it, if you want the latest tactics.

[Bobcat]

Starting an ad hominey garden? Beanny wrote the book on it, if you want the latest tactics.

Oh the irony...

[bobbys]

Looks like the Sarah Hound Dog Brigade or should I say parade, can't find what they were looking for in those emails. Can't even find any gossip. :D



http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100091820/american-way-sarah-palin-email-frenzy-backfires-on-her-media-antagonists/

Now , is this embarrassing to any of our left leaning bilge rats? Norm? Any of Norm's disciples willing to take the opportunity to say, oh........ something like, "Looks like I have been foooooooooolish?"http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing013.gif.

Well at least the Democrats are Vetting some one.

[Norman Bernstein]

Starting an ad hominey garden?

I couldn't hold a candle to you.... considering how often you make assumptions about what it is I think or believe, stuff words in my mouth, try to involve me in issues I've never commented on or have no interest in. Some people just need a bogeyman.... apparently, I'm yours.

I've been working pretty hard to be civil here in the bilge, but there's only so much of this crap I'm going to take.

[wardd]

it must be instinctive for those on the right to shout down or shut down dissenting views

[S.V. Airlie]

Oh right! something that is done daily on the various posts. And when someone can't say anything in rebuttal, they turn to complaining about grammar and looking for errors to deflect anything that is said. Give me a break!

[Tylerdurden]

I couldn't hold a candle to you.... considering how often you make assumptions about what it is I think or believe, stuff words in my mouth, try to involve me in issues I've never commented on or have no interest in. Some people just need a bogeyman.... apparently, I'm yours.


Mine too!

[pefjr]

Now, who's obsessing on Palin?eat ya heart out CC, don't overplay that hand next time.


The trove of more than 13,000 emails detailing almost every aspect of Sarah Palin’s governorship of Alaska, released late on Friday, paints a picture of her as an idealistic, conscientious, humorous and humane woman slightly bemused by the world of politics.
One can only assume that the Left-leaning editors who dispatched teams (http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/sarah-palin-emails-revealed-live-updates) of (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jun/10/sarah-palin-emails-live-coverage) reporters (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-palin-emails-verge----20110610,0,7760796.story) to remote Juneau, the Alaskan capital, to pore over the emails in the hope of digging up a scandal are now viewing the result as a rather poor return on their considerable investment.

[ccmanuals]

eat ya heart out CC, don't overplay that hand next time.


The trove of more than 13,000 emails detailing almost every aspect of Sarah Palin’s governorship of Alaska, released late on Friday, paints a picture of her as an idealistic, conscientious, humorous and humane woman slightly bemused by the world of politics.
One can only assume that the Left-leaning editors who dispatched teams (http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/sarah-palin-emails-revealed-live-updates) of (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jun/10/sarah-palin-emails-live-coverage) reporters (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-palin-emails-verge----20110610,0,7760796.story) to remote Juneau, the Alaskan capital, to pore over the emails in the hope of digging up a scandal are now viewing the result as a rather poor return on their considerable investment.

then of course their is this view

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/06/what-palin-emails-really-show

[pefjr]

The fact that you lefties can't laugh at yourself and this turn of events is so funny. I can hear my ol Aunt Della now, "a bunch of sour-pussies".:D

[wardd]

The fact that you lefthanders can't laugh at yourself and this turn of events is so funny. I can hear my ol Aunt Della now, "a bunch of sour-pussies".:D

it's not over yet

[Tylerdurden]

it's not over yet

I know, there's no smoke and sounds of gunfire. I think when it becomes sporadic then you can start to say its over.

[switters]

she was a part time public official and as such her records should be open, what's wrong with that?

dang straight wardd. while we are at it there wouldn't be anything wrong with looking at President Obamas e-mails while he was in the senate or Sec State Clintons e-mails while she was in the senate?

[wardd]

dang straight wardd. while we are at it there wouldn't be anything wrong with looking at President Obamas e-mails while he was in the senate or Sec State Clintons e-mails while she was in the senate?


state legeslaters and congress emails don't appear to be subject to open records laws

[switters]

state legeslaters and congress emails don't appear to be subject to open records laws

Does that mean they are not public servants then?

[wardd]

Does that mean they are not public servants then?

???

all i was doing was commenting on the law, good bad or indifferent

[pefjr]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-june-13-2011/pmailGood one SBounder. Norm usually keeps us up to date on Jon Stewart and the good ones. Guess he didn't see the humor in this one.:d

[Phillip Allen]

the trick now will be to NEVER let them walk away from the phishing expedition where they forgot the bait... and the rod and the line and... ... ... then ended up standing and yelling at the water and demanding it give up Palin for public display

[Phillip Allen]

I think I'll invoke some names now... Norman, Wardd, lj, C Chuck. Ian (one of them) and a host of others... consider your names invoked... neener, neener

[wardd]

all i see is a news organization which legally sought and obtained public records and is reviewing them

time will tell if anything is there and if so will be brought to public attention

it's called a free press, it's in the constitution, take a look

phillip must sleep with the light on and sees a sinister plot to whatever he sees

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

On behalf of all liberals, left wing nutjobs, socialists, America-haters, Muslims, homosexuals, anti-christs, heathens, free thinkers, radicals, welfare recipients, liberal print and media journalists, and all others that find Sara Palin and those who like her and agree with her views to be a little frightening and dangerous as well as deserving of satire and derision, I officially and unequivocably hereby apologize for assuming that there'd be "juicy bits" in the emails and I congratulate and commend Sara Palin for keeping those "juicy bits" out of the emails. We were wrong about the emails. Sorry to have caused Sara Palin any inconvenience.

Satisfied?

I didn't think so....



Now that's funny :D

[pefjr]

Maybe that's because her toadies in the Alaska government took two years redacting them.

Anyway, yes, Jon Stewart is almost always funny, and the way he skewers over-hyped media 'events' is one of his best shticks.



No, I think not.

Given the extraordinary level of recalcitrance on the part of the Alaska gov't; given the massive amount of energy they spent combing through those documents blacking out entire pages; given the fact that her use of private email accounts to conduct state business is illegal in Alaska to begin with; given the fact that only half the FOIA-requested documents were released; and given the fact that they were not released in electronic form just stinks to high heaven. It smells almost as bad as Peffy's posts!



Here's yer 'neener', Phillip. It's from the Mother Jones article linked by Tom (ccmanuals) Maybe you can get someone to read it for you.Weak leftist BS, not enough there to call propaganda, followed by ad hominey, and silly teenage comments.
"Maybe you can get someone to read it for you", Beanny. Maybe you could come up with some new material?

[wardd]

Weak leftist BS, not enough there to call propaganda, followed by ad hominey, and silly teenage comments. Maybe you could come up with some new material?

is that the rep party line?

[bobbys]

On behalf of all liberals, left wing nutjobs, socialists, America-haters, Muslims, homosexuals, anti-christs, heathens, free thinkers, radicals, welfare recipients, liberal print and media journalists, and all others that find Sara Palin and those who like her and agree with her views to be a little frightening and dangerous as well as deserving of satire and derision, I officially and unequivocably hereby apologize for assuming that there'd be "juicy bits" in the emails and I congratulate and commend Sara Palin for keeping those "juicy bits" out of the emails. We were wrong about the emails. Sorry to have caused Sara Palin any inconvenience.

Satisfied?

I didn't think so......

>>>liberals, left wing nutjobs, socialists, America-haters, Muslims, homosexuals, anti-christs, heathens, free thinkers, radicals, welfare recipients, liberal print and media journalists,<<<

Im a bit surprised you admit that's Obama's base but i accept your Poligie!

[Phillip Allen]

state legeslaters and congress emails don't appear to be subject to open records laws

but private emails are?

[oznabrag]

but private emails are?

No, Phillip. Congressional emails are, apparently, exempt from FOIA requests.

From what I am able to gather, the laws of the State of Alaska REQUIRE that the Governor conduct all official email correspondence on the states email account, and SP flouted that law completely. She communicated on her own account almost exclusively.

[Soundbounder]

Good one SBounder. Norm usually keeps us up to date on Jon Stewart and the good ones. Guess he didn't see the humor in this one.:d
Granted, I am not on here all the time, but I haven't seen any comments by Norman suggesting he was caught up in the Palin email frenzy.
I think you are all just making this up.