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PeterSibley
03-11-2011, 01:52 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/11/3161866.htm

PeterSibley
03-11-2011, 01:58 AM
It's being revised to 8.4 as I watch a live broadcast .

ramillett
03-11-2011, 02:06 AM
looks like japan is sinking on the news

ramillett
03-11-2011, 02:07 AM
the wave just keep coming

Paul Girouard
03-11-2011, 02:08 AM
8.8 they are saying now.

ramillett
03-11-2011, 02:09 AM
news says 8.9

PeterSibley
03-11-2011, 02:11 AM
US geological Service says 8.9

varadero
03-11-2011, 02:39 AM
Follow link below for video!

People flee for their lives as ten-metre high tsunami washes away buildings after massive 8.9 quake strikes Japan


By Daily Mail Reporter (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=y&authornamef=Daily+Mail+Reporter)

Last updated at 7:36 AM on 11th March 2011

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goodbasil
03-11-2011, 02:53 AM
Reporting it as 8.8 on our news.
Five minutes ago, (11:45 PST), the US channels were giving tsunami warnings for parts of Washington State.
I remember driving home earlier that the wind really picked up.
Those television pictures were really something.

purri
03-11-2011, 03:02 AM
Surf's up. (from the link)
Wonder how Alaska will fare? 1953 anyone?

PeterSibley
03-11-2011, 03:19 AM
The tsunami video is horrifying !

ramillett
03-11-2011, 03:30 AM
looking at those waves , there hearing they travel at the speed of an airliner , scary .

varadero
03-11-2011, 03:36 AM
More Vid from BBC. Unbelievable power of water!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709598

BrianW
03-11-2011, 03:40 AM
Reporting it as 8.8 on our news.
Five minutes ago, (11:45 PST), the US channels were giving tsunami warnings for parts of Washington State.

I'm seeing a "watch" being issued, not a "warning". But the situation is fluid, and stuff like that easily confused.

skuthorp
03-11-2011, 03:40 AM
With all the live pictures, only a few people, that wave was full of vehicles. 8.8 is the largest in Japenese history.
Way to early to get a handle on this, but it won't be good.

varadero
03-11-2011, 04:12 AM
The BBC link above just gets better. Watch now for some of the most fascinating wave video I have ever seen.

ishmael
03-11-2011, 04:12 AM
Boy, 8.9 is huge. If I lived in a coastal area anywhere in hitting distance, Pacific Islands, West Coast U.S. etc., I'd be heading for the hills. "There's a hard rain gonna fall."

seanz
03-11-2011, 04:34 AM
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/4758653/Tsunami-hits-Japan-after-quake

In the wave footage there is a fire being pushed along in the water? Mad.

I hope there's something NZ can do to help the Japanese, they helped NZ recently. Not to sure about that though, NZ might have to do some work in the islands if this tsunami is as bad as they say it is.

willmarsh3
03-11-2011, 04:36 AM
I just saw the video - anyone standing in it's way is surely toast.

skuthorp
03-11-2011, 04:47 AM
Have there been any estimations as to the tsunami going east towards Hawaii etc yet?. There are wave height bouys in the area round Japan I think. Taiwan is first in line and it may be higher than some Pacific islands.

seanz
03-11-2011, 04:48 AM
Hawaii has a tsunami warning and is evacuating the coast.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10711783

ETA of the tsunami at Hawaii is 3am.......thats 2am NZ time. I might just wait up to see how bad it is and if we should be bugging out. ETA of the tsunami at the North of NZ is 6am NZ time.

That's good, it's predicted to be "10s of centimeters"....less than 2', maybe let's hope so. It will arrive here at high tide (or so my tired little brain thinks) though so it may make a nuisance of itself

skuthorp
03-11-2011, 04:53 AM
ABC says a few Aussie pollies stuck in a bullet train. Stuart Robert, Lib. Someone got through on a sat phone.

BrianW
03-11-2011, 05:02 AM
Okay, it's warning all along the US west coast now. My house is about 30ft above sea level, and a couple hundred yards inland. Watching the video of the tsunami running across the Japanese farm land, then smashing into the elevated highway, near the bridge (I'm sure most of you have been watching that scene) I feel better about where my house is located. There are also a few islands, one quite large, between us and the ocean. Although looking to the southwest, we can see the Pacific, to the northwest, it's islands. Hopefully they will take the brunt of any waves.

skuthorp
03-11-2011, 05:09 AM
Expert is saying that the tsunami will travel across the pacific ar 800 kmh and slow downand grow in shallow water. I reckon you should be right as long as there isn't a gully to funnel water in your direction. Of course it may not be very big at all where you are, warnings are just that, just in case.

PeterSibley
03-11-2011, 05:21 AM
Hawaii has a tsunami warning and is evacuating the coast.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10711783

ETA of the tsunami at Hawaii is 3am.......thats 2am NZ time. I might just wait up to see how bad it is and if we should be bugging out. ETA of the tsunami at the North of NZ is 6am NZ time.

That's good, it's predicted to be "10s of centimeters"....less than 2', maybe let's hope so. It will arrive here at high tide (or so my tired little brain thinks) though so it may make a nuisance of itself

How about a romantic drive up into the hills ?

BETTY-B
03-11-2011, 05:27 AM
They had that tsunami video running live. Incredible. And all the video that's already coming in too. Wow. Sad stuff.

seanz
03-11-2011, 05:28 AM
How about a romantic drive up into the hills ?

Shouldn't come to that, though there may be some sand-bagging on the river. We'll see.

Anyway, that's enough about me......just hoping that all those cars I saw floating around in the water were empty.

Amazing figures in the news. 4.4 million homes without power.

C. Ross
03-11-2011, 05:35 AM
My brother and family live in the mountains near Nagano. Haven't heard from him yet. They had a 7.0 quake centered about 50 miles north in 2007. My big worry is they get tons of snow - maybe 10-12 meters per year - and always face avalanche threat. I'm praying they're all ok.

Edit: just heard from him and they're fine. Says they got dizzy but could tell it was huge quake some distance away...big wavelength small amplitude...was supposed to be in Tokyo but had changed plans...whew!

seanz
03-11-2011, 05:42 AM
..just hoping that all those cars I saw floating around in the water were empty.

Watched the video again......some of the cars were swamped as they were driving down the road.
:(

ishmael
03-11-2011, 06:10 AM
Hard to say just what will happen with this. If I were living in a low lie area I'd get the hell out.

PeterSibley
03-11-2011, 06:19 AM
I saw quite a few things that won't be good at all .

BarnacleGrim
03-11-2011, 06:32 AM
I have a friend in Tokyo right now, I haven't heard from him yet. I hope he's all right.

skuthorp
03-11-2011, 06:54 AM
BBC says there's a warning out re nuclear facilities. Seems there isn't enough power to run the cooling pumps properly.

LeeG
03-11-2011, 06:57 AM
horrific

PeterSibley
03-11-2011, 06:58 AM
Diesel standby ?

SMARTINSEN
03-11-2011, 07:00 AM
Live video on MSNBC.com.

MiddleAgesMan
03-11-2011, 07:04 AM
Several photos of small ships lying on their sides in dry harbors:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/11/japan-earthquake-photos_n_834391.html#252197

skuthorp
03-11-2011, 07:05 AM
Diesel standby ?

I would have thought 3 or 4.

PeterSibley
03-11-2011, 07:12 AM
Perhaps it's something the people who run ever so safe nuclear plants don't think about .

skuthorp
03-11-2011, 07:12 AM
"An administrator at the Tohoku Electric Power Co's Onagawa facility said the process for the cooling reactor is "not going as planned," adding that "nuclear emergency situation" has been declared. The company asked people nearby to stay calm, the official TV news channel NHK reported".

PeterSibley
03-11-2011, 07:15 AM
"An administrator at the Tohoku Electric Power Co's Onagawa facility said the process for the cooling reactor is "not going as planned," adding that "nuclear emergency situation" has been declared. The company asked people nearby to stay calm, the official TV news channel NHK reported".

Oh sugar ! :(:(

Ian McColgin
03-11-2011, 07:29 AM
The news from Japan is devestating though much of the footage shows how well rational building standards can mitigate damage.

We'll know in about a half hour (c. 0300 HST, 0800 EST) just how big the tsunami is when it reaches Hawaii. I don't know if that will be a useful predictor for the west coast.

skuthorp
03-11-2011, 07:30 AM
No 1 plant, "the deisel generators are inoperable". No 2 plant, "emergency cooling measures have been activated".

Dutch
03-11-2011, 08:10 AM
does anyone know if there was any thing done on the US west coast to put sunami warning buoys in or was it an idea which never came to fruition?

regardless of the tsunami, keep out a wary eye around the world - seems earth quakes are coming in groups more and more. or maybe its just better reporting.

Dutch
03-11-2011, 08:11 AM
No 1 plant, "the deisel generators are inoperable". No 2 plant, "emergency cooling measures have been activated".

saying a prayer for all involved in this disaster and that it doesnt balloon

ishmael
03-11-2011, 10:25 AM
Have you ever been in a earthquake? I have, once. Maine, being on the old plate boundaries that are pretty quiet, doesn't have them often.

We're sitting at the kitchen table, enjoying our ten A.M. coffee break, and suddenly the earth moved, like a wave passing. It jostled our coffee and got our attention. What was that? It was only 4.5 on the Richter scale. That scale, if I'm remembering my geology correctly, is logarithmic, so a 8.9 isn't twice as big, it's huge.

Paul Montgomery
03-11-2011, 10:37 AM
I lived in Tokyo for 14 years, my wife is Japanese and I still have friends and family there. I'm getting in touch with them now - all OK AFAIK. I've been in lots of earthquakes, but never anything even remotely close to this.

Seeing those ships tossed around was really incredible!

BarnacleGrim
03-11-2011, 11:28 AM
Just got an email from my friend in central Tokyo, who's doing fine.

I have only experienced a small after-shock in Vanuatu, I can't imagine being in the midst of all of this.

David W Pratt
03-11-2011, 12:17 PM
Just spoke with my sister in HI, she is fine. Very tired from evacuating and being up all night, but otherwise a non-event.
Hope everyone else has as good news.

Ted Hoppe
03-11-2011, 12:26 PM
I still sleep with my shoes close and pants at the arm lengths ready, a residual from the 1989 San Francisco earthquake. As is having fresh bottled water, ready to eat meals and a second portable gas stove stored in my garage.

seanz
03-11-2011, 03:43 PM
Earthquakes measuring 6.3 and 6.1 have rocked areas off the east coast of Honshu, Japan, today.
The earthquakes are just a day after a 7.3 magnitude quake off Japan's northeast coast that shook buildings hundreds of kilometres away in Tokyo and triggering a small tsunami, but caused no significant damage or injuries.
No tsunami alertas have been issued following this morning's quakes and there were no immediate reports of damage or injuries.
Today's quakes were at 7.16am and 7.46am (NZ time).
Japan lies on the "Ring of Fire" - an arc of earthquake and volcanic zones that stretches around the Pacific Rim and where about 90 per cent of the world's quakes occur.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/4751473/More-big-earthquakes-near-Japan

2 large quakes and 2 major quakes in 3 days?

TimH
03-11-2011, 04:30 PM
The countdown to 2012 continues.

seanz
03-11-2011, 05:01 PM
What were they expecting to see? (http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/world-news/4761255/Tsunami-sweeps-five-to-sea-rips-out-California-docks/)

WX
03-11-2011, 06:23 PM
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?smp&lang=eng
Current emergencies around the planet.

Dutch
03-11-2011, 07:10 PM
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?smp&lang=eng
Current emergencies around the planet.

That is an interesting world map but I must say, I clicked on a couple of the yellow markers in the US - they are reporting stuff like " traffic accidents and seasonal flu epidemics" - hardly an occurence that I would consider as an emergency worthy of world wide reporting.

Nanoose
03-11-2011, 08:39 PM
yes - the quake scale is logarithmic.
A Canadian news article noted this one was 8000x stronger than the one that hit CHCH, NZ recently. 8000x!

seanz
03-11-2011, 09:43 PM
Interesting Tsunami animation....shows times and direction for the whole Pacific.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/japan-earthquake/4761655/Video-Tsunami-animation

yzer
03-12-2011, 12:20 AM
I went to the National Weather Service site for the San Francisco Bay Area and California Delta at 1:15 a.m. this morning. NOAA and NWS had posted detailed shading of the Tsunami watch area on their coverage map by then. That was only three hours after the quake in Japan.

Yes, all of those sensors planted all over the Pacific Ocean really do work. The estimated amplitude, Tsunami Watch areas and arrival times were spot on.

The amplitude at San Francisco was only 2'. That diminished sharply by the time the surge crossed the bay, as happened with the Chilean quake Tsunami.

Some coastal areas got it much worse than others.

Many boats damaged or lost in marinas at Santa Cruz, CA. Marina docks damaged or destroyed. Amplitude was 4'.

I heard that Crescent City, CA marina lost most of its docks. Many boats damaged or sunk. Amplitude was 8'.

Brookings OR, the next sizable port north of Crescent City had major damage to boats and docks as well.

My boat in the California Delta was unaffected by the surge.

Thanks to the advanced warnings only one CA fatality has been reported so far. Someone was on the shoreline at the mouth of the Klamath River (well south of Crescent City) and got dragged out to sea. The body was recovered late this afternoon.

skuthorp
03-12-2011, 02:49 AM
Report just in 15 minutes ago of "possible meldown"at one of the nuke plants! Possible!

"
Officials in Japan are investigating whether a meltdown has occurred at the Fukushima No 1 nuclear power plant after yesterday's powerful earthquake and tsunami."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/12/3162416.htm

mizzenman
03-12-2011, 03:04 AM
I wonder how this will affect the Chinese - Japanese political relations

skuthorp
03-12-2011, 03:33 AM
Japan is on the way down, China on the way up economically. But Japan is important to the US because of it's geographic position. I'm wondering how it will effect their economy, public debt is at 200% of national product already.

skuthorp
03-12-2011, 04:58 AM
Oops!
"An explosion has blown the roof off an unstable reactor north of Tokyo, raising fears of a disastrous meltdown at a nuclear plant damaged in the massive earthquake that hit Japan on Friday.
n explosion has blown the roof off an unstable reactor north of Tokyo, raising fears of a disastrous meltdown at a nuclear plant damaged in the massive earthquake that hit Japan on Friday."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/12/3162450.htm

Phillip Allen
03-12-2011, 05:05 AM
I suppose that would be a steam explosion...steam is bad as it prevents water contact with the core matrix and cooling it down

skuthorp
03-12-2011, 06:06 PM
And they were expecting 'the big one' on the fault to the south nearer Tokyo.

PeterSibley
03-12-2011, 06:10 PM
Who to say what the big one is ?

C. Ross
03-12-2011, 08:10 PM
Poor Japan. They just keep on getting hit. Another 6.3 aftershock just a few minutes ago.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_35.gif
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/Legends/legend.gif

The 6.2 one on the Sea of Japan side is almost exactly under my brother's town of Myokokogen.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/shakemap/global/shake/c0001z2a/download/intensity.jpg

Nanoose
03-12-2011, 08:29 PM
It shifted the main island over 2 meters to the west.
Amazing.

ishmael
03-12-2011, 09:12 PM
"It shifted the main island over 2 meters to the west.
Amazing."

I read that earlier today. Amazing is a good word for it. We like to think of things as being a bit more stable than they actually are.

The places I've lived, the major natural disasters we had to deal with were storms. In Ohio, fantastic tornado, that could pop out of a thundercloud with no notice. Here in Maine, we count on one or two good windstorms during the year. Sometimes more.

I have a love/hate relationship with nature. When a good storm is brewing it's both exciting and frightening. After a strong lightning strike nearby there is that strange smell in the air. Ozone, I think, caused by the electricity breaking up the O2 molecules.

Anyway, I'll be here tomorrow, good Lord willin' and the crick don't rise. Best wishes and prayers for those suffering in Japan.

WX
03-13-2011, 05:39 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm

WX
03-13-2011, 06:24 AM
More photos.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/gallery-fn84naht-1226020590761

skuthorp
03-13-2011, 04:28 PM
Now comes the hard part for Japan, the death toll is probably over 10,000. The coastal strip is ruined and so choked with rubble as to defy any short ternm clean up and some areas may be quarantined for some time because of the radiation risk. Many victims will not be found and many not identified. Add to that warnings of aftershocks up to 7 or so and another tsunami and it's a rough ride for the government to come. Our countries are likely to be involved in long term aid, victim ID, even food aid as there are shortages in Japan already. Power and water are badly effected in areas not effected badly by the quake, health problems may surface as a result of rotting corpsesd in the rubble. Whole industries, jobs, livelyhoods are gone.
It makes our political squabbles look very small beer indeed.

ramillett
03-13-2011, 07:55 PM
can you believe the power ?

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv332/ramillett/millett/captf8b80fe88ba74c6395a92e26833790e9-f8b80fe88ba74c6395a92e26833790e9-0.jpg

WX
03-13-2011, 08:06 PM
They should leave that there as a memorial.

Chip-skiff
03-13-2011, 09:34 PM
Some details on the nuclear crisis, from several news reports:

Yesterday, reactor #1 at Fukushima Daiichi sustained a hydrogen explosion. Currently, reactor #3 at the Fukushima Daiichi plant is also having serious problems. This reactor arouses particular concern because it's powered by plutonium fuel with a reaction that's hotter and is more unstable than the more common reactor fuels.

Officials are also fighting to prevent the explosion/meltdown of three additional reactors at a different plant, known as Fukushima No. 2.

The U.S. Department of Energy has been considering plutonium fuel (MOX) for reactors owned by the Tennessee Valley Authority. Also, there are 23 reactors in the U.S. which have the same design as the ones under threat of meltdown in Japan.

This is a terrible situation for those who have suffered destruction from the quake and tsunami, that might keep them away from homes, farms, and businesses for a very long time indeed.

WX
03-14-2011, 05:53 PM
Some new footage
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12735023