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The Bigfella
03-10-2011, 04:34 AM
It's Australian, of course.... lives around where I do.

The peacock spider.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/australian/salticidae/Maratus_volans_F5583.jpg

Maratus volans



http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sites/default/files/images/peacock2_0.preview.jpg

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/news-jumping-peacock-spider

The courtship dance is amazing.

.... but to put it into perspective...

http://i48.tinypic.com/293a72o.jpg

skuthorp
03-10-2011, 04:55 AM
Glad you picked that up Ian, didn't do him much good though, I think he got eaten!

The Bigfella
03-10-2011, 04:57 AM
Yes, the one on television tonight didn't dance the right steps.

It seems that if the males don't dance right, they get eaten.

Blowtorch
03-10-2011, 05:13 AM
<<freaks out> >

<<cries>>

PeterSibley
03-10-2011, 05:22 AM
It pays to be a pretty boy and dance well ...I saw it too !

Allison
03-10-2011, 05:26 AM
It pays to be a pretty boy and dance well ...I saw it too !

Well of course:D

JayInOz
03-10-2011, 07:04 AM
Well of course:D

Must be a city thing- I'd rather chew my fingers off ) JayInOz

McMike
03-10-2011, 07:16 AM
That's a weird one. I found this spider in the soffit of my house once that was black and white with the coolest stripes, I searched the net and went to the bookstore for a book on spiders but I never found anything that looked like it. It was as interesting as this spider but with no other colors.

skuthorp
03-10-2011, 07:26 AM
There are probably millions of unnamed species of bugs in the world, even in your backyard. You might have missed your chance at immortality "McMikus Collingwoodi"*

*Collingwood" Aussie rules football club, colours black and white.

Ian McColgin
03-10-2011, 07:28 AM
Trescool.

Duncan Gibbs
03-10-2011, 07:33 AM
I saw it too! SWIMPAL and I thought it was the arthropod version of PNG's birds of paradise. It was such a cool and funny dance it did. When its two legs were first held aloft it was like it was punch the air in victory. Very cute and very funny: Pity about the sticky ending though.

McMike
03-10-2011, 07:34 AM
There are probably millions of unnamed species of bugs in the world, even in your backyard. You might have missed your chance at immortality "McMikus Collingwoodi"*

*Collingwood" Aussie rules football club, colours black and white.


That's exactly what I was thinking, I would have gotten it into a container but the thing was fast as hell and I'm a bit squeamish about spiders since the day when I was eleven and I was running through a field of long grass, I had tripped and fell with my face inches away from a HUGE black and yellow spider with it babies all over its back. I've had the spider willies since.

BTW I used to love watching Aussie rules football when they had it on ESPN, I haven't seen it in a few years. We used to play similarly in a friends back yard, we were more balls to the wall though, the yard was slopped at about 20-25 degrees and offence ran up hill . . . try playing that with a bunch of stone masons, I haven't been the same since.

S.V. Airlie
03-10-2011, 07:39 AM
Nice picture.. The spider's abdomen looks like it was painted by an ancient aborigine artist...I has that ethereal look to it...Even down to the colors.

skuthorp
03-10-2011, 07:42 AM
Thread drift.
The youngest son of a friend is an apprentice stonemason, they are working on St Pauls Cathedral in Melbourne
http://www.stpaulscathedral.org.au/ Spire and window surrounds. They are sending him to France later this year to learn specialist restoration skills. (I bet there are plenty of spiders up there)

McMike
03-10-2011, 07:48 AM
Thread drift.
The youngest son of a friend is an apprentice stonemason, they are working on St Pauls Cathedral in Melbourne
http://www.stpaulscathedral.org.au/ Spire and window surrounds. They are sending him to France later this year to learn specialist restoration skills. (I bet there are plenty of spiders up there)

Wow, now that's something to put on the resume!!!!

S.V. Airlie
03-10-2011, 08:00 AM
Thread drift...A friend of a good friend of mine ( now long done I'm afraid ) left school in fifth grade during the depression but returned to studying insects ( entomology ) in the fifties and sixties..Even though he had no formal education, he identified and recorded five new species in the US of I think, flies.. Not an easy thing to do.. a knowledge of latin, morphology, and an assortment of other skills are involved with the process. I suspect he had one or more named after him although the choice of naming a new species was up to him and he was not out t0o parade his abilities and accomplishments

And as was mentioned the number of unknown or recognized insects in the world is huge...

Allison
03-10-2011, 08:05 AM
nd as was mentioned the number of unknown or recognized insects in the world is huge...

Another one of the wonderful things about destroying rainforest to graze cattle for Macdonalds!

S.V. Airlie
03-10-2011, 08:07 AM
I think it is crop production primarily Allison...Corn for ethanol is a biggie.

Allison
03-10-2011, 08:38 AM
Soy for stock food is the biggest crop but there is plenty of beef cattle to in Brazil in those areas.
Brazil gets most of it's ethanol from sugar cane, it's a big thing there.

S.V. Airlie
03-10-2011, 08:43 AM
It maybe true Allison but having worked in Brazil, I saw mainly crops..Cattle not as many..But if you want to include soy to feed cattle, I'll agree to that aspect of food production...I have not seen a steak from Brazil yet..Argentina yes...

and certainly sugarcane is a source no disagreement there

Allison
03-10-2011, 08:46 AM
You don't eat Macca's but then they don't do steak from what I hear. Never been in one!

Gerarddm
03-10-2011, 08:46 AM
Spider? I thought my old Fiat Spider 2000 LE was pretty nice looking too, especially with the polished alloy Daytona wheels I put on it... ;-)

Allison
03-10-2011, 08:48 AM
Spider? I thought my old Fiat Spider 2000 LE was pretty nice looking too, especially with the polished alloy Daytona wheels I put on it... ;-)
Ah but could it dance?
That's the big question.
Bad dancing lead to a grisly end no matter how pretty the spider was!

S.V. Airlie
03-10-2011, 08:52 AM
up one of those was identified by a prominent entomologist. Figured out it had a mechanical defect and not really a separate species Geraddm. This spider died out and went to the junk yard.:d:d

The Bigfella
03-10-2011, 01:50 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/3160841.htm

Here's the full story, with the spider's dance in it

B_B
03-10-2011, 02:03 PM
It maybe true Allison but having worked in Brazil, I saw mainly crops..Cattle not as many..


The world's largest exporters of beef are Brazil, Australia, and the United States. Beef production is also important to the economies of Argentina, Mexico, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Russia, and Uruguay.
from wiki

S.V. Airlie
03-10-2011, 03:49 PM
Braam no offense and I do tentatively agree but I have been accused of using Wiki as an example in other posts and have had my beard trimmed....

B_B
03-10-2011, 04:23 PM
fine:
Google can be your friend (http://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C1SKPC_enCA325CA327&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Brazilian+beef+exports+world+ranking)

The Bigfella
03-10-2011, 10:45 PM
Hmmm looks like an invasion of the heifers here. Maybe they should burger off?

B_B
03-10-2011, 11:53 PM
You can certainly try steering them in that direction, but be prepared for your ox to be gored.
Ah, enough of this bull. Time for the cows to come home and me to make some hay while the sun shines.

purri
03-11-2011, 01:20 AM
Do the oxen attend Oxon?

ishmael
03-11-2011, 04:48 AM
Some people get a little freaked by spiders, often. There's one that lives around here, whose name I can't remember. Glossy black, with gold accents. Their body is about the size of the end of my thumb, and they build a beautiful web about the size of a large serving platter.

I know some aren't, but this one is harmless to all but the allergic. It isn't aggressive, but it is impressive. If you disturb it, unwonted, it will vibrate its legs and make the whole web shake. It's just telling you you've stepped into its territory.

ramillett
03-11-2011, 05:01 AM
Here's a southern California jumping spider , not so flashy :)

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv332/ramillett/millett/DSC_0548.jpg

My wives pet :)

purri
03-11-2011, 05:33 AM
^ aka UFC cage fighting spider

ishmael
03-11-2011, 05:39 AM
When I first moved into these digs there was a jumping spider who became my friend. A little guy, maybe just shy of a quarter inch. He was never agressive. Never bit me. I got the sense that he was as interested in me as I was in him. "Who is this big smelly human who has moved into my space?" "Well, he seems OK." When I'd killed a fly I always gave it to him. He appreciated my obeisance.

We make artificial lines. They are just that, artificial.

The Bigfella
03-11-2011, 07:21 AM
The Funnel Web Spider that bit me on my bum wasn't my friend. I still have a sore spot on the right cheek (not to put too fine a point on it).

purri
03-12-2011, 04:08 AM
^ I thought the fingerweb spider bit you on your funnel, no?

JayInOz
03-12-2011, 04:26 AM
There are literally thousands of acres of vineyards around where I live, and at this time of the year the orb spiders are at their biggest, and make webs that are several feet across between the rows of vines- sometimes many webs in each row. Most of the vineyards have quad bikes, and at this time of the year they all have two sticks or tree branches sticking up from the handle bars to take out the spider webs- the vineyard workers call the branches the antlers. I think I've mentioned this before, but if you happen to walk into one of those big webs, your first reaction will be to try to claw it away from your face. Don't. Just stop and walk backwards slowly and the web will usually come off you pretty much intact. Hard to do if there's a big orb spider hanging off your eyebrow, but it does work. JayInOz

Phillip Allen
03-12-2011, 04:30 AM
There are literally thousands of acres of vineyards around where I live, and at this time of the year the orb spiders are at their biggest, and make webs that are several feet across between the rows of vines- sometimes many webs in each row. Most of the vineyards have quad bikes, and at this time of the year they all have two sticks or tree branches sticking up from the handle bars to take out the spider webs- the vineyard workers call the branches the antlers. I think I've mentioned this before, but if you happen to walk into one of those big webs, your first reaction will be to try to claw it away from your face. Don't. Just stop and walk backwards slowly and the web will usually come off you pretty much intact. Hard to do if there's a big orb spider hanging off your eyebrow, but it does work. JayInOz

I like orb spiders...but only when I see them first

ishmael
03-12-2011, 05:29 AM
More on the jumping spider. He lived around my desk and would show up unexpected. It could be a bit startling. All of the sudden there he was on my hand. But I got used to it, and did consider him a friend after a bit.

God knows what goes on in their brains, but he knew I wasn't going to hurt him, as I trusted he wasn't going to hurt me. I do think they are much more complex than we typically give them credit for. Just as the cat slumbering contently under the warmth of my desk lamp is more complex.

One day, he just didn't show up anymore. Like all of us.