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WX
03-08-2011, 09:46 PM
US officials fear a public health hazard after an estimated one million sardines that inexplicably washed up in a California marina begin to rot.
The carcasses coated the surface of the King Harbor Marina in Redondo Beach, near Los Angeles, and piled as high as 18in (46cm) on the marina floor.
Officials said the fish had sought shelter from rough seas and soon exhausted the water's oxygen supply.
They said they would "recycle" the fish carcasses into fertiliser.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12682145

ramillett
03-08-2011, 10:29 PM
They should hall them out to sea . Good for the food chain :)

Gerarddm
03-08-2011, 11:00 PM
You'd think every stray cat in town would be at that marina right about now... :-)

Barry
03-08-2011, 11:14 PM
Redondo Beach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9f4C4iZ9o8

boat fan
03-09-2011, 06:12 AM
Redondo Beach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9f4C4iZ9o8

It`s a video of Patty Smith performing Redondo beach ! .....? .......:rolleyes:

Try this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLThB-3kF7s

Ian McColgin
03-09-2011, 07:20 AM
It will be interesting to see what caused this. One thought is that for unknown reasons they swarmed a small area and depleted the available oxygen. But what caused them to concentrate so? And even at a few million sardines, could they really deplete the oxygen in the bay or even a smallish part of it. My money is on an illegal dumping of some toxin perhaps a bit off shore that somehow with the currents corraled the fish, but that seems a bit far fetched also. Great time to be a marine biologist.

Thorne
03-09-2011, 07:41 AM
I remember seeing the beaches in Santa Barbara covered in dead squid from the high tide line to the water -- all torn in half by wave action. Winter storms along our coast can be killers for more than just boats! They had to bring in bulldozers and truck 'em away -- for fertilizer I think.

Tall Boy
03-09-2011, 09:30 AM
It will be interesting to see what caused this. One thought is that for unknown reasons they swarmed a small area and depleted the available oxygen. But what caused them to concentrate so? And even at a few million sardines, could they really deplete the oxygen in the bay or even a smallish part of it. My money is on an illegal dumping of some toxin perhaps a bit off shore that somehow with the currents corraled the fish, but that seems a bit far fetched also. Great time to be a marine biologist.

It's not the first time it has happened, as for depleting the oxygen, if you ever had the pump break on a full bait tank, the bait goes belly up pretty fast. Redondo harbor is a pretty clean harbor these days.

Ian McColgin
03-09-2011, 09:38 AM
As more news comes, it seems less and less likely that this is a pollution or human related event. Always worth eliminating.

Thorne
03-09-2011, 09:42 AM
I still suspect Dirt and the Tacklebuster of being involved somehow -- they just fled the scene of the crime yesterday (well, Marina Del Rey) and headed for Oregon.

Canoeyawl
03-09-2011, 11:11 AM
Probably Anchovies, lack of oxygen
They can be herded up by larger fish and penned in small harbors. Fish are generally not bothered by weather, how ridiculous is that?
Santa Cruz, Ca. has had this problem more than once and added aireators to the docks. They look like sort of like big electric outboard motors and have been deployed many times preventing a huge (and expensive) die off. I can remember bailing them out of the harbor using excavators and dumptrucks.
It seems to be a phenomenon in man-made harbors.

It can be messy and expensive, the decomposing fish give off sulphuric acid gas which ruins paint jobs and compromises rigging.

David G
03-09-2011, 11:47 AM
I still suspect Dirt and the Tacklebuster of being involved somehow -- they just fled the scene of the crime yesterday (well, Marina Del Rey) and headed for Oregon.

Yes... Dirt is on a delivery trip. Taking the new wooden boat up to Oregon. As I said to my fellow Coots - How many times have we told the Dirtsailor to use the Holding Tanks! Now look what he's done :p

Ian McColgin
03-09-2011, 11:52 AM
While many use 'sardine' and 'anchovy' synonomously, they are different. Anyone out there know whether it's a million of which dead in that bay?

Bobcat
03-09-2011, 12:29 PM
I saw the same phenomenon in Brookings, Oregon in the early '80's. The anchovies would swarm into the harbor and when the tide went out, they would use up the oxygen and die by the millions. As the oxygen was depleted, the fish would come to the surface and thrash. We filled up the bottom of a skiff by scooping the fish up with our hands

Thorne
03-09-2011, 12:50 PM
This article refers to them as 'sardines' -
http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-110308-fish3.grid-8x2.jpg
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/mar/09/theories-abound-after-fish-die-en-masse-in-marina/

This ones says "mostly sardines" and that oxygen levels were at near zero -
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/03/redondo-beach-dead-fish-oxygen-levels-zero.html

More "sardines" -
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41972653/ns/us_news-environment/

Kevin G
03-09-2011, 01:13 PM
Manhaden or "Bunker" do the same thing. In the warmer weather, they will school up in a tight harbor and deplete the O2. Sometimes many thousands at once will die.

KG