View Full Version : Stone Horse sloops live on!
rbgarr
02-08-2011, 08:59 PM
Crocker's Boat Yard in Manchester-By-The Sea, Massachusetts has the molds now. Y>
James McMullen
02-08-2011, 09:11 PM
Joy! I love mine. I really do.
Uncle Duke
02-09-2011, 06:26 AM
What great news and how appropriate!
Love those boats....
bamamick
02-09-2011, 08:08 AM
One of the finest looking small sailing boats that I know of. They deserve the be built forever. :)
Mickey Lake
Lance F. Gunderson
02-09-2011, 01:39 PM
Stone Horses are dear to my heart, being one of the very first boats I sailed aboard. They deserve popularity.
The fact that they have the molds - does that mean that they will be building Stone Horses, or will they be selling patterns for the molds, so others can build a Stone Horse?
James McMullen
02-11-2011, 09:12 AM
You can build a trad. carvel Stone Horse right now if you want. . . . Just sayin' :D
You can build a trad. carvel Stone Horse right now if you want. . . . Just sayin' :D
At this point, building one is over my head, but I am going to put it on the bucket list (after the GIS, Navigator, Ohio Sharpie, Beg-Meil, Rescue Minor, Coquina, Ness Yawl, etc). From whom are plans available?
James McMullen
02-11-2011, 09:47 AM
Well. . .if you just start with the Ness Yawl then you can cross off almost all of those others as redundant. And then you can get on with the ol' Stone Horse. There's a guy in Port Orchard who has a set of the Stone Horse plans, finishing a boat his dad started I believe. . .but I bet that an email to Crocker's Boatyard will set you up quicker. I ought to buy a set myself so I can carve a proper half-model.
CundysHarbor
02-11-2011, 10:05 AM
I suspect the molds are for making the fiberglass boat. I owned a Stonehorse....best balanced boat ever!
Dave
Ok, I'll send them an email and let you know what they say.
As for the list, this is as much about the process as it is the result, hence the long list. The plan is to build one per year until I can't build them anymore. I can't see building a Stone Horse in a year (and I don't have the room right now), so it would have to go on the end of the list.
Plans are $230, per Skip Crocker.
James McMullen
02-11-2011, 02:28 PM
The plan is to build one per year until I can't build them anymore. .
That's a great plan! Building 'em is just as much fun as using 'em! I wanted to have built a boat for every year I am old. . .though by now I've gotten a bit carried away and am several boats ahead of myself. . . . .
That's a great plan! Building 'em is just as much fun as using 'em! I wanted to have built a boat for every year I am old. . .though by now I've gotten a bit carried away and am several boats ahead of myself. . . . .
I started the Lumberyard Skiff last April when I was 45, and I should finish it by this April. Along the way, I decided that I like the process as much as the result, so I set a goal of 30 boats over 30 years. My Dad was still pretty hearty at 75, and worked me into the ground at that age, so I hope I have those genes. Anyway, it's a motivation to keep myself healthy. Without goals, we can tend to wither away.
JayInOz
02-12-2011, 05:27 AM
Well isn't someone going to post a picture of a stone horse for us uneducated heathens who haven't a clue what you're talking about? Please? :) JayInOz
Well isn't someone going to post a picture of a stone horse for us uneducated heathens who haven't a clue what you're talking about? Please? :) JayInOz
The picture below is from a previous thread:
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?97492-Crocker-quot-Stone-Horse-quot
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Stonehorse46/08-17-06292.jpg
James McMullen
02-12-2011, 08:36 AM
Here's some videos of Phoebe on her last sail of the season in some nice big wind.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=153184888058899
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=153186914725363
She's now hauled, getting a new diesel to replace the outboard on the bracket and some fresh paint 'n varnish.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?op=1&view=global&subj=100001021657621&pid=473435&id=1749593420
Lance F. Gunderson
02-12-2011, 09:54 AM
Think Maintainence James. Even teak will rot.
James McMullen
02-12-2011, 10:26 AM
Yes indeed! I bought a fixer-upper, and she's hauled getting fixer-upped right now. She's getting all new paint and varnish and everything. That was all the original teak from 1974 when she was built. Some of it was so far gone that it's being completely replaced, like the taffrail here:
http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/30665/2404779570088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2404779570088484686OujQnu)
I just re-did the engine hatch, the companionway is next.
http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/35200/2925076530088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2925076530088484686PJSyjG)
I made a little engine controls cover just recently.
http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/45392/2254591150088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2254591150088484686xywWqs)
Gerarddm
02-12-2011, 11:00 AM
"So where's the downhaul?" Famous last words? LOL
Seriously, it looks like you were really haulin'. How fast were you averaging, have you any idea?
Stonehorse46
09-07-2011, 09:33 AM
Yes indeed! I bought a fixer-upper, and she's hauled getting fixer-upped right now. She's getting all new paint and varnish and everything. That was all the original teak from 1974 when she was built. Some of it was so far gone that it's being completely replaced, like the taffrail here:
http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/30665/2404779570088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2404779570088484686OujQnu)
I just re-did the engine hatch, the companionway is next.
http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/35200/2925076530088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2925076530088484686PJSyjG)
I made a little engine controls cover just recently.
http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/45392/2254591150088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2254591150088484686xywWqs) Nicely done.
Stonehorse46
09-07-2011, 10:14 AM
August 13, 2011, Stone Horses off the Padanaram breakwater,
YOUNG AMERICA, YANKEE, BLUE JAY, FOOT LOOSE, WINDFALL, PEGASUS, BUTTERFLY, BEWITCHED, ABLE
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Stonehorse46/2011%20SHBCR/2011-08-13%2011X5/2011-08-13w72611X5.jpg (http://forum.sailingscuttlebutt.com/DISCUSSION_C6/Event_Reports_F29/2011_Stone_Horse_Builders_Cup_and_Rendezvous_P1185 1/)
Pretty. What's with all the colored sails?
bamamick
09-07-2011, 10:57 AM
There's one down the road from me on a trailer. Don't know about the rig, but the boat needs a lot of TLC. Falls outside of my two-ton limit so I can't get involved but if someone were interested I could stop by and talk to them for you.
Mickey Lake
CWSmith
09-07-2011, 12:55 PM
It is amazing to me how one idea can be carried out either very well or very badly. I have often seen similar raised deck designs in fiberglass (Cal 24 comes to mind?) and they look awful! This is a truly lovely boat! I love the fine entry and the gentle sweeping line of the deck into the cockpit, but mostly I love the scale. The deck isn't too high, the shear still looks good, it's a beautiful boat! And from the videos I'd say it sails well, too.
James McMullen
09-07-2011, 03:05 PM
A nice shape underwater too.
http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/46136/2383502290088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2383502290088484686ykdaDF)
http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/47716/2859587120088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2859587120088484686wyXolV)
I'm really happy with how well mannered this little boat is. She will self-steer without hardly any fuss. I don't have to do much once I get the sails trimmed just so.
http://youtu.be/qkwifrDtVaU
On some courses you don't even need to lash the tiller even. Nice feature to have available when you're hungry!
http://youtu.be/VeuDYwy-9fM
I'm actually so content with this particular boat right now that I've ended up shelving my long-term plans to build myself a Grey Seal. S'okay, I can use those funds to build rowboats instead.
http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/36559/2509183990088484686S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2509183990088484686FZkhnY)
Stonehorse46
12-29-2011, 11:47 PM
Click on the photo for a slide show of the 2011 Stone Horse Builder's Cup Race
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Stonehorse46/2011%20SHBCR/2011-08-131508X12.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY8-eyKEqdQ&feature=youtu.be)
rbgarr
12-30-2011, 09:44 AM
The original Stonehorse design had a full width cabin ('raised deck') only to a point forward of the mast and the foredeck was at the sheer level outlined by the bottom of the sheer stripe on the raised deck version. No bowsprit.
There were alternate rigs, deck layouts and cabin shapes. Some are more attractive and balanced in appearance on the hull shape and each has worthy qualities. The plans are shown in "Sam Crocker's Boats"
Seeing, sailing, building one of each would be a thrill.
Then, there's the Stonehorse Senior....
bamamick
12-30-2011, 11:24 AM
Ah, yes. I wish I was sitting in one right now. It's about 70F and sunny outside right now.
Mickey Lake
Nicholas Scheuer
12-30-2011, 12:33 PM
As a happy owner of both Dovekie and Shearwater, I acquired a copy of Edey& Duff's Stone Horse Brochure (the compleat story) which will be forever prized in our library, even though both of the boats have moved on to new homes.
CWSmith
01-01-2012, 04:26 PM
I continue to think this design was drawn by someone who took great joy in the details. Everything seems better than normal. I don't feel very comfortable in small cabins, but I imagine 3 and 4 day cruises on the coast of Maine and I'm in love.
Jay Greer
01-01-2012, 05:59 PM
Consider the Bird Boats of San Francisco Bay as well.
http://www.boatingsf.com/photopage.php?photo=1086
Jay
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