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James McMullen
02-05-2011, 10:36 AM
I saw this template for Facebook arguments and thought it was very much cross-platform applicable. Can you spot your favorite actors? :d

http://zwingliusredivivus.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/fb.jpg

I've thought about trying out for the part of Troublemaker myself, but I've probably gotten myself typecast as a The Lazy Activist too much to be able to pull it off convincingly enough.

Dutch
02-05-2011, 10:39 AM
lmao

George Jung
02-05-2011, 10:42 AM
This is the Bilge; I suspect some here convincingly play all those parts, and in the same thread.

It might be fun to 'name names'; how about a poll?

I think we all have been The Troublemaker (or at least perceived as such), but a few stand out.

Lazy Activist? I've a few (okay, one) in mind.

Phillip Allen
02-05-2011, 10:44 AM
Hey!



:)

Michael Beckman
02-05-2011, 10:51 AM
I can't believe you would compare the bilge to facebook like that. Facebook has much more class.

George Jung
02-05-2011, 10:58 AM
Hi, 'disinterested bystander'. How's it going?

(that was one of the choices, eh?)

James McMullen
02-05-2011, 11:00 AM
By all means, name names. Then let's name how many of those names share the same name in meatspace. I've got a sneaking suspicion that there is more than one dude who just likes arguing so much that he takes matters into his own hands if no one else will step up to the plate.

Jim Mahan
02-05-2011, 11:01 AM
You forgot the 'post-every-ten-minutes-on-every-thread-ers' the few who post on every thread, and usually only one line quips that really add nothing, and the posters who think the world needs to hear all the banal minutea of their daily existence. Oh yeah, and those who post with righteous indignation to point out how unPC or harsh some previous post was. I wonder if Facebook has bikini threads... And how about those obnoxious posters whose entire repertoire of posts consists of links to youtube.

Jim Mahan
02-05-2011, 11:07 AM
A good thing about the Wooden Boat Forum, compared to other forums, is the noticable lack of personal signatures and avatars that consist of animated gifs, those little color happy faces with cartoon gloved hands.

Jim Mahan
02-05-2011, 11:10 AM
And then there are those whose contributions have to come in serial fashion, one post after another. Do I mind when people ask questions rhetorically? No. Do I mind when it seems to be a never ending slew of inanity?

Bruce Taylor
02-05-2011, 11:36 AM
You forgot the 'post-every-ten-minutes-on-every-thread-ers' the few who post on every thread, and usually only one line quips that really add nothing.

Those guys have an indispensable role to play in the eco-system of a thread.

For a thread to survive and grow, the questions raised in it must be essentially unanswerable. If the thread is too narrow and focused, there is a danger that the questions raised in it will be answered, and the thread will die.

The guys who toss in one-liners and off-topic asides help to blur the topic, and smudge it and smear it around, until there is no hope of settling anything.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
02-05-2011, 11:50 AM
....
I've thought about trying out for the part of Troublemaker myself, but I've probably gotten myself typecast as a The Lazy Activist too much to be able to pull it off convincingly enough.

Nah mate - most assuredly your métier is that of the Bliss Ninny (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/blissninny.htm) - but that's cool.

Uncle Duke
02-05-2011, 12:04 PM
Nah mate - most assuredly your métier is that of the Bliss Ninny (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/blissninny.htm) - but that's cool.
Ha - great stuff there! I particularly liked Troglodyte (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/troglodyte.htm)..

Troglodyte has developed an incoherent political philosophy that he characterizes as "conservative" or "libertarian", but which could be more accurately described as "bigoted narcissism".
:d:d

Old Dryfoot
02-05-2011, 12:40 PM
Bliss Ninny (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/blissninny.htm)

Okay, that link gets a bookmark; hey... I'm a chime-in! ;)

genglandoh
02-05-2011, 12:49 PM
It is a little scary that in a Democracy some in the bilge do not respect others opinions.
I know many do not agree with me and I do not agree with others but I do respect anyone who gives me their honest opinion.

George Jung
02-05-2011, 12:51 PM
Excellent! I esp. appreciated Administrator (even looks like Scot!)



Admin is the janitor, the cop, the mayor, the judge and sometimes even the forum doctor who tends to Warriors injured in battle - in other words, Nanny (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/nanny.htm) on steroids. Because he runs the forum and sets the rules Admin has the power to pull the plug on any Warrior who gets a little too frisky. Sometimes his efforts are appreciated, but like any authority figure he is also resented - especially by Jerk (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/Jerk.htm), Evil Clown (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm), Enfant Provocateur, (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/enfantprovocateur.htm) Ego (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ego.htm), Rebel Without a Clue (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/rebelwithoutclue.htm), (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/Rebel%20Without%20a%20Clue.031.php) Yuk Yuk (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/yukyuk.htm), Troller (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/troller.htm), and other Warriors who would like to turn the forum into their personal playground. Most Admins are generally fair and even handed, but the adage that absolute power corrupts absolutely is as true on the internet as it is anywhere else, and it is a rare Admin who can resist bringing the hammer down if seriously pressed by a determined foe. Sycophant (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/sycophant.htm) and other suckups will also attach themselves to a strong Admin to form a defensive perimeter around him, and more often than not Admin's enemies will be driven off without him ever having to brandish his ax. CAUTION: Admin is the most powerful of all Warriors and drawing him into direct battle invites almost certain defeat. Rebel Leader (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/Rebel%20Leader.067.php)does pose a limited threat to Admin's power by fomenting a revolt and causing forum members to jump ship



So.... who's Rebel Leader? I don't think the Bilge has one. Lots of Sycophants though.

bobbys
02-05-2011, 12:57 PM
I should think i shall like to play the part of Chime in ,suck up,brown nose, More better then coming up with my own material!

George Jung
02-05-2011, 01:09 PM
Ah, found one for Many:

Atheist:


Atheist is Deacon's cyber-doppelganger. Deacon and Atheist hold equally fervent, though diametrically opposed beliefs about religion, and both feel compelled to share those beliefs at every possible opportunity. Should an unsuspecting forum member make even a passing comment about faith or spirituality of any flavor, Atheist will descend like one of the Furies, mercilessly hectoring all of the ignorant and delusional believers about the sordid history of the church and the pernicious effects of religion on society. After a few of Atheist’s anti-religious jeremiads most other Warriors will avoid the subject altogether, though Evil Clown may egg him on a little, and Philosopher may amuse himself by pointing out flaws in his reasoning. If a forum has the misfortune of having both Deacon and Atheist as members, the bickering often continues until Nanny (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/nanny.htm) or Admin (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/admin.htm) pulls the plug. Bliss Ninny (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/blissninny.htm) can also sometimes squelch the conversation by saying, “Well, everyone has a right to their [sic] opinion.”


this one has 'God vs Darwin' down pat.

Flying Orca
02-05-2011, 01:30 PM
It is a little scary that in a Democracy some in the bilge do not respect others opinions.

Is that a rule for democracies, now, that we respect others' opinions?


I know many do not agree with me and I do not agree with others but I do respect anyone who gives me their honest opinion.

Wait, now you're talking about other people. There are very few people here for whom I hold little respect, but there are plenty of opinions that I think are just plain wrong.

I don't think we have an obligation to respect other people's opinions.

George Jung
02-05-2011, 01:35 PM
I took it as a reference to disparaging others, in the manner in which their opinion was expressed.

James McMullen
02-05-2011, 01:48 PM
Those Flame Warriors are great! But Bliss Nanny? I thought I was more like Diplomat, though I was just trying to be Eagle Scout. Someday I hope to be a Godfather, at least where sail 'n oar topics are concerned. Some of those descriptions are frighteningly accurate with regards to many of our friends here.

Keith Wilson
02-05-2011, 02:32 PM
Hmm - You think I could be The Philosopher (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/philosopher.htm)? Those putti are a bit much, though.

Dr. Arthur Trollingson
02-05-2011, 02:34 PM
That was a pretty accurate representation of the first page of a Bilge debate, but I'll submit this as a better picture of a typical debate's third page.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__whqANwMl0

genglandoh
02-05-2011, 02:41 PM
Churchill arguing with Mrs. Braddock.

“'You are drunk Sir Winston, you are disgustingly drunk. 'Yes, Mrs. Braddock, I am drunk. But you, Mrs. Braddock are ugly, and disgustingly fat. But, tomorrow morning, I, Winston Churchill will be sober.”

Phillip Allen
02-05-2011, 03:02 PM
That was a pretty accurate representation of the first page of a Bilge debate, but I'll submit this as a better picture of a typical debate's third page.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__whqANwMl0

WOW! Way too much testosterone! (anyone here suffering from testosterone poisoning?) :) (I have some candidates in mind)

George Jung
02-05-2011, 03:24 PM
Read the descriptor for 'Centurion'.

We used to have that one here, didn't we?

George Jung
02-05-2011, 04:05 PM
Ah yes....

The Swarm....

left me with a nice warm, fuzzy feeling.

George Jung
02-05-2011, 05:06 PM
Any Toxic Grannies? (or a male counterpart)?

How about Cyber Sisters (or male counterpart)?

Strong similarity to the Swarm; nuance, I suppose.

I recognize many of our own characters (and myself) in this mix, but most are an amalgam of several. Guess we're too 'complex' to be so easily pidgeon-holed.:D

Ian Marchuk
02-06-2011, 12:41 AM
Sharp and incisive diagnosis there doc. Is proctology one of your areas of practice?

ShagRock
02-06-2011, 06:31 AM
By all means, name names. Then let's name how many of those names share the same name in meatspace.

meatballs for brains..

Dr. Arthur Trollingson
02-06-2011, 12:36 PM
Sharp and incisive diagnosis there doc. Is proctology one of your areas of practice?

No, I'm a Dr. of science. If you know someone who needs a proctologist though, I know a guy who'd be happy to have a look.

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/4/21/11/ginormous-monkey-butt-20161-1240326062-6.jpg

George Jung
02-06-2011, 12:38 PM
Nice response, 'doc'.

Nice likeness of Ian, as well (he's the one 'at work')

SamSam
02-06-2011, 01:01 PM
There's only 4 characters there. You can have more than that in a Bazooka Joe comic. Where's the guy who can't stay on topic? Or the one who makes no sense? There's got to be a spell checker. Where's the doomsday conspiracy theorist, your OH! The Humanity person, the IGMFYs, The Righteous Believers, the Heathen Infidels and the Wishy Washies? Where are the Smilies? :mad:

This needs to be fleshed out before it goes to the publisher. |:(

ASHDUMP
02-06-2011, 01:14 PM
It is a little scary that in a Democracy some in the bilge do not respect others opinions.
I know many do not agree with me and I do not agree with others but I do respect anyone who gives me their honest opinion.
Jeez.... its a republic.. not a democracy.

George Jung
02-06-2011, 01:30 PM
There's only 4 characters there. You can have more than that in a Bazooka Joe comic. Where's the guy who can't stay on topic? Or the one who makes no sense? There's got to be a spell checker. Where's the doomsday conspiracy theorist, your OH! The Humanity person, the IGMFYs, The Righteous Believers, the Heathen Infidels and the Wishy Washies? Where are the Smilies? :mad:

This needs to be fleshed out before it goes to the publisher. |:(

They are all there, along with your character: The 'I can't be bothered checking out the link before I add my .02' :d

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/atheist.htm

oznabrag
02-06-2011, 01:35 PM
Jeez.... its a republic.. not a democracy.

Wrong again, amigo. It's a democratic republic.

ASHDUMP
02-06-2011, 01:40 PM
Wrong again, amigo. It's a democratic republic.

So call it what it is.... a republic. We can get into semantics but the United States of America is a republic.

(I'm waiting for a foreigner to say, "yeah, but Congo is a republic too".)

oznabrag
02-06-2011, 01:43 PM
So call it what it is.... a republic. We can get into semantics but the United States of America is a republic.

(I'm waiting for a foreigner to say, "yeah, but Congo is a republic too".)

That would be like asking for a 'dog'.

There're plenty of dogs out there, but a Chihuahua is not a Mastiff.

ASHDUMP
02-06-2011, 01:51 PM
That would be like asking for a 'dog'.

There're plenty of dogs out there, but a Chihuahua is not a Mastiff.

We have a representative form of government.... while some aspects of our government are democratic today, they were never intended to be this way.

Article 4 sec. 4 Section 4 The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence

Keith Wilson
02-06-2011, 02:00 PM
. . . they were never intended to be this way. "Intended" and $2 will get you a cup of coffee. The government is what we make it. Our democratic republic was not founded by gods, but by all-too-fallible human beings just like us, who disagreed and argued and compromised and cobbled things together the best they could.

genglandoh
02-06-2011, 02:36 PM
I always find it interesting how one word can have a thread move in an unexpected way.

SamSam
02-06-2011, 02:37 PM
They are all there, along with your character: The 'I can't be bothered checking out the link before I add my .02' :d

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/atheist.htm (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/atheist.htm)Yes, we can work with that for an extended book series, multiple TV seasons and multipart, award winning movies with a cast of thousands. Y>

George Jung
02-06-2011, 03:22 PM
ha!

I've thought the characters inhabiting the bilge, and the way the Bilge functions, has all the makings for a movie, and it would be entertaining. You're certainly taking a broader,

financially more lucrative view. Might want to run that one past Scot, see if we can get a percentage, eh?

James McMullen
02-06-2011, 03:30 PM
I can't even begin to tell you how amused I am to find this thread already starting to degenerate into name-calling and off tangent political sniping. Talk about a Generic Bilge Debate! :D :D :D

Ian Marchuk
02-06-2011, 04:30 PM
I guess I'll just dig a little deeper.
My proctology comment to "doc" was directed to George Jung who has done a great job in teaching us the subtle differences between some of the bilge bums who have been showing up. It would be a sorry medical practice indeed to have so many perfect bums to work with .
As far as the pics go they are far from accurate. My hair is grey and shorter. My transom ,though generous , cannot be as attention getting as that one....thankfully.

I, Rowboat
02-09-2011, 11:58 AM
I am not here.

Canoez
02-09-2011, 12:34 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/uc/20110209/largeimagenq110209.gif