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mike hanyi
02-02-2011, 05:48 AM
The News dont bring it up so much but there is proof that the Loop current in the Gulf is stopped due to the viscosity on the seabed, All thanks to Correxit and BP. This is most likely the cause of this storm and more to come


I was in Germany the other week and saw a program on the stuff, It is at least 6 times more toxic then crude, Crude can be broken down naturally given time.Now this oil and cemical slush is going up the coast slowly and will get into to the foodchain in the Atlantic and turn the Atlantic into the Hudson River. Fresh caught Atlantic Fish could be very toxic soon.


read this:
http://yowusa.com/earth/2010/earth-0810-01a/1.shtml

genglandoh
02-02-2011, 06:57 AM
The Oil could be a factor but there have been stories for years talking about the Gulf stream stopping.
Just google Gulf Stream Stopping

Basically every time the weather changes (just wait 15 mins it will change) us humans look for a cause.
The Global Warming upswing (hockey Stick) had not happen so people are looking for a reason.
The result it must be the Gulf Stream.

some examples
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/05/gulf-stream-slowdown/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sci/tech/3266833.stm

http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/res/div/ocp/gs/

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article598464.ece

Dutch
02-02-2011, 07:50 AM
just send your bills for the latest latest weather calamity to

British Petroleum
1 St James's Square
London, SW1Y 4PD

Garret
02-02-2011, 08:09 AM
Lots of sites claiming this. Here's one from last week that shows the Loop Current affecting weather in Florida - so it's still "looping" & the Gulf Stream is still "streaming".

http://highspeeddirt-steve.blogspot.com/2011/01/florida-current-and-loop-current.html

My biggest concern is the effects of the dispersant.

genglandoh
02-02-2011, 08:16 AM
Lots of sites claiming this. Here's one from last week that shows the Loop Current affecting weather in Florida - so it's still "looping" & the Gulf Stream is still "streaming".

http://highspeeddirt-steve.blogspot.com/2011/01/florida-current-and-loop-current.html

My biggest concern is the effects of the dispersant.

Yes I agree the dispersant is a concern.

Gerarddm
02-02-2011, 09:45 AM
It's the seasonal La Nina weather pattern, not BP oil or the Gulf Stream.

Hwyl
02-02-2011, 10:12 AM
It's the seasonal La Nina weather pattern, not BP oil or the Gulf Stream.

Then why did temperatures in Britain fall to historic lows, water pipes that had never been frozen, froze hard this year.

I don't blame BP but the oil consumers of which I am one.

I crossed the stream twice this fall and it appears the same as before but that's subjective.

Peerie Maa
02-02-2011, 11:31 AM
Then why did temperatures in Britain fall to historic lows, water pipes that had never been frozen, froze hard this year.

I don't blame BP but the oil consumers of which I am one.

I crossed the stream twice this fall and it appears the same as before but that's subjective.

The Gulf stream warms the west coast, where as all of that cold weather came down from the north between our east coast and Norway. Ironically some of the worst weather I have experienced was in the SE, where cold air blew in past the south of Norway directly off of the Steppes.
A Scottish palm tree:
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/77779/77779,1185720262,1/stock-photo-palm-trees-at-plockton-sutherland-nw-scotland-showing-the-warming-influence-of-the-gulf-stream-4198540.jpg
Who says there is no Gulf Stream?

Andrew Craig-Bennett
02-02-2011, 11:48 AM
It's the seasonal La Nina weather pattern, not BP oil or the Gulf Stream.

Right.

Hwyl
02-02-2011, 11:52 AM
The Gulf stream warms the west coast, where as all of that cold weather came down from the north between our east coast and Norway. Ironically some of the worst weather I have experienced was in the SE, where cold air blew in past the south of Norway directly off of the Steppes.
A Scottish palm tree:
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/77779/77779,1185720262,1/stock-photo-palm-trees-at-plockton-sutherland-nw-scotland-showing-the-warming-influence-of-the-gulf-stream-4198540.jpg
Who says there is no Gulf Stream?


I'm from the West coast too, my supposition is that the recent spate of cold weather on the West Coast of the British Isles, may be related to the diminishing of efect of the Gulf Stream.

http://www.penmorfa.com/Slate/ppenrhyn.jpg

TimH
02-02-2011, 11:53 AM
pre-cursor to 2012?

L.W. Baxter
02-02-2011, 12:01 PM
... my supposition is that the recent spate of cold weather on the West Coast of the British Isles, may be related to the diminishing of efect of the Gulf Stream...

Someone should be along shortly to remind you that "weather isn't climate".

That phrase hasn't been used enough yet to become completely meaningless. Or has it?

TimH
02-02-2011, 12:11 PM
Regardless if this is true or not BP should be bashed to within inches of its life.
Conducting business based upon what costs more the chance of paying the fine or the savings genertaed by endangering human lives and the environment needs to be stopped. The fines should be lethal enough to a business so they wont even consider cheating.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
02-02-2011, 05:05 PM
We've done that one to death, or so I thought.

Groan...

Peerie Maa
02-02-2011, 05:11 PM
We could talk about fraudulent claims?

LeeG
02-02-2011, 05:12 PM
"viscosity on the seabed"????

LeeG
02-02-2011, 05:13 PM
read this:
http://yowusa.com/earth/2010/earth-0810-01a/1.shtml


I tried, nothing there

elf
02-02-2011, 05:38 PM
Interesting. It was there yesterday morning.

Larry P.
02-02-2011, 06:24 PM
Are some of you really stupid enough to believe that the gulf spill is effecting the weather?

Peerie Maa
02-02-2011, 07:33 PM
Are some of you really stupid enough to believe that the gulf spill is effecting the weather?

There are on or two here who would rather believe that than believe in AGW.

Hwyl
02-02-2011, 08:50 PM
Are some of you really stupid enough to believe that the gulf spill is effecting the weather?


Maybe your simple brain can get around it insurance boy

LeeG
02-02-2011, 08:59 PM
Are some of you really stupid enough to believe that the gulf spill is effecting the weather?

see, the oil and dispersant have made the seafloor sticky so the water stops moving. The Mayans predicted it.

TimH
02-02-2011, 09:55 PM
The simple truth is simply nobody knows.

Dave Wright
02-02-2011, 10:10 PM
A few years ago I stumbled upon Richard Seager http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/res/div/ocp/people/seager/ and his theories on the Gulf Stream and weather / climate:

http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/res/div/ocp/gs/pubs/Seager_etal_QJ_2002.pdf

An interesting take that minimizes the Gulf Stream's influence on European climate. Is it valid? I don't know, but it's an interseting read.

B_B
02-02-2011, 10:50 PM
What were the sizes of the other large oil spills in the Gulf?

Any idea what the weather patterns in Europe were subsequently?

Waddie
02-03-2011, 06:45 AM
Tim,
I don't think any fine could be high enough to discourage big business from doing unsafe things or causing people grief. Fines (like corporate taxes) in any amount just get passed on to the consumer, or put onto some stockholders, which are often pension funds. What needs to happen are criminal prosecutions and long prison sentences for those responsible. To avoid personal jail time, they would rat each other out in a New York minute. And everyone else would clean up their act.
regards,
Waddie

oznabrag
02-03-2011, 09:58 AM
Tim,
I don't think any fine could be high enough to discourage big business from doing unsafe things or causing people grief. Fines (like corporate taxes) in any amount just get passed on to the consumer, or put onto some stockholders, which are often pension funds. What needs to happen are criminal prosecutions and long prison sentences for those responsible. To avoid personal jail time, they would rat each other out in a New York minute. And everyone else would clean up their act.
regards,
Waddie

How about both?

Y Bar Ranch
02-03-2011, 10:06 AM
The News dont bring it up so much but there is proof that the Loop current in the Gulf is stopped due to the viscosity on the seabed...

Dont they know that oil is a lubricant?

Waddie
02-03-2011, 10:09 AM
oznabrag
How about both? For the reasons stated.

regards,
Waddie

oznabrag
02-03-2011, 10:14 AM
oznabrag
How about both? For the reasons stated.

regards,
Waddie

How about the fines are big enough to finance the prison sentences?

No, wait! I've got it!

Wanton, willing environmental degradation for profit could be a capital crime! Then we take the huge fines and fund the agency that investigates them, and execute the criminals, too.

TimH
02-03-2011, 11:15 AM
Dont they know that oil is a lubricant?


Do you know what viscosity means?