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01-04-2011, 11:26 AM
The expense of caring for veterans of the Iraq (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/iraq/) and Afghanistan (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/afghanistan/) wars is an unfunded budget liability for U.S. (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/united-states-of-america/) taxpayers that in years to come will rival the cost of entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/medicare/), lawmakers will be told Thursday.
The House Veterans' Affairs Committee (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/house-veterans-affairs-committee/) will hear new estimates of the cost of lifetime medical care and benefits for returning troops disabled by their service a total of more than $1.3 trillion.
"It's somewhere between Medicare (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/medicare/) and Social Security in terms of its potential impact" on the budget, said Rep. Bob Filner (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/bob-filner/), California Democrat and committee chairman.


S.V. Airlie
01-04-2011, 11:28 AM
Okay shoot me.. You call such programs entitlements. I say the troops hurt deserve them for the service they gave our country.

Jim Mahan
01-04-2011, 11:40 AM
Not counting the rest of us veterans from before the current debacles.
Everyone, not just "the troops" needs cradle to grave care, housing, health care, etc. Not saying it has to be provided by the government for everyone, just that we all need the same basic things up to and including hospice. We, society have a responsibility, if we care to deserve to be called civilized, to make sure that everyone is taken care of, one way or another, despite political inclinations along the way, for all of it. And government is how we do some of it.

01-04-2011, 11:51 AM
Okay shoot me.. You call such programs entitlements. I say the troops hurt deserve them for the service they gave our country.

Definition of Entitlement 1
a : the state or condition of being entitled : right (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/right) b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract

: a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program

: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges

One of the reasons I put the title in quotes, and if you notice it is referred to as an entitlement in the article.

"This is another entitlement that we have committed ourselves to that is going to break the bank unless we deal with these issues as soon as possible," he told reporters.

Its all about language (you are one of the worst culprits) and the use of the word in a blanket derogatory term to indicate dependency and weakness.

When the right talk about cuts and entitlements they need to be much more specific about what exactly they are referring to, how they intend to implement their policies and what the effects will be.

01-04-2011, 11:53 AM
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."

Frederic Bastiat

Dan McCosh
01-04-2011, 01:08 PM
"Entitlements" is way of using language to distort the nature of an unpaid bill--usually deferred compensation, such as retirement benefits, pensions, savings plans, health insurance as part of a compensation package, etc. Another phrase is "legacy costs"--similar benefits earned but often not either funded, or the funds misappropriated. Describing military pay in these terms is no different than any of the rest of these. There is a political group anxious to avoid paying these bills due. Timing major tax cuts with putting the armed forces on a wartime footing is unprecedented, as is skipping payments into the social security fund. Shifting corporate pension obligations to the federal government, and many public pension funds are backed by bonds which are incurring growing mistrust in financial markets. It's all part of larger tendency to default on debt at many levels.