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boatbuddha
12-10-2010, 02:14 PM
I don't agree with everything he is saying but I think that this speech should be read by everyone.

http://c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx

Curtism
12-10-2010, 02:58 PM
Thanks for the notice, boatbuddha. Is there a transcript somewhere on the C-span site?

CK 17
12-10-2010, 03:10 PM
I'm not sure it's real. I know c-span is calling it one, but there was no business today so i'm not sure what it is accomplishing. I do hope he tries it on monday or tuesday. maybe this is a shot across the bow. . . .

Rich Jones
12-10-2010, 03:35 PM
Go Bernie!! I wonder if this is all in Obama's and the Democrats plan. Filibuster and fight for a while before being forced to sign on to this horrible bill. What a disgrace the Republican Party is. I can see fighting for ideals, but making the middle class suffer horrendously for the sake of saving the very rich a few bucks is disgusting.

S.V. Airlie
12-10-2010, 03:51 PM
Will any party be happy with any legislation. We have to spend more time compromising or nothing will be done. I ain't rich. I don't get a handout from any cuts from the rich.. I do from those for the middle class. Principle is fine and dandy if you can afford it. Sometimes there has to be a give and take. I did in essence on healthcare reform. It probably will hurt me... ex.Tax credits have no effect on me no help for me at all. I'll know in 2014 what it does to me.

James McMullen
12-10-2010, 03:58 PM
I support Bernie Sanders. He's representing my interests quite well.

LeeG
12-10-2010, 05:45 PM
isn't it a filibuster if there's a vote about to happen? He's venting, a good one btw. Maybe it'll provide some feedback to Congress. Folks are calling up and cheering him on.

Tom Montgomery
12-10-2010, 05:59 PM
Senator Bernie Sanders (IND-VT) describes himself as a democratic-socialist. Good for him!

Peerie Maa
12-10-2010, 06:05 PM
Are there rules to a filibuster?
For example are you allowed to repeat yourself?
Any thing else?
Enquiring minds and all that. :)

Cuyahoga Chuck
12-10-2010, 06:13 PM
Are there rules to a filibuster?
For example are you allowed to repeat yourself?
Any thing else?
Enquiring minds and all that. :)

Originally, the filibusterers had to hold the floor but by the new rules all that has to be done is to declare the intent to filibuster. This modification was, of course, unwise because there is no demand for anyone to be in the well or at the podium. Open discourse on a particular measure may as well stop till the filibusterers call it off is ended or 67 votes are amassed to end it.

S.V. Airlie
12-10-2010, 06:17 PM
You would get the idea or what one goes through from Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. Of course that was just a movie. A good one granted but..Famous fllibusters.

For interest...

http://ezinearticles.com/?Famous-Filibusters-in-Political-History&id=31091

S/V Laura Ellen
12-10-2010, 07:20 PM
Will any party be happy with any legislation. We have to spend more time compromising or nothing will be done.

I agree with you, but you need to be very careful with the definition of compromise. The best (and intended) definition is a "win-win" situation where each side feels that they achieved their goals. The typical political compromise is "lose-lose" where each side is happy that they think they have stuck it to the other side. This usually turns out as the worst possible outcome for the public.

S.V. Airlie
12-10-2010, 07:23 PM
I agree with you, but you need to be very careful with the definition of compromise. The best (and intended) definition is a "win-win" situation where each side feels that they achieved their goals. The typical political compromise is "lose-lose" where each side is happy that they think they have stuck it to the other side. This usually turns out as the worst possible outcome for the public.

Well in that case nothing will be accomplished. If it isn't the Reps in power, its the dems and there will not be any compromising

Peerie Maa
12-10-2010, 07:31 PM
Originally, the filibusterers had to hold the floor but by the new rules all that has to be done is to declare the intent to filibuster. This modification was, of course, unwise because there is no demand for anyone to be in the well or at the podium. Open discourse on a particular measure may as well stop till the filibusterers call it off is ended or 67 votes are amassed to end it.

What a weird idea. Our MP's can attempt to talk out a bill, but they do have to hold the floor. You cannot just text the Speaker for it to be considered to have happened.

Gerarddm
12-10-2010, 07:53 PM
Bernie just ended. 8 hours on the floor, making trenchant points all the way.

I've thought well of him ever since he was the Socialist mayor of Burlington, VT.