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Alright guys and gals. I have never undertaken such a huge project as I am about to do. I have a friend here who gave me this 8 meter (27 foot) old wooden boat, which hasn't seen the sea in over five years. As you can see by the pics, it isn't even close to being dropped in the water. Where to start... I am putting it in dry storage where I will begin the clean up process and sanding to get down to the bare wood and then I can see what exactly I am dealing with, but for starts, it has a leaking problem, no big holes but most definitely NOT water tight. I have been told, "the easiest thing to do is fiberglass the bottom to the water line" but I am not so sure that IS the best idea. I have just joined this forum and am hoping some of you will help me as I walk (slowly) through the process of getting her back into the water. Thanks.
the pics are on my flikr.com page, please just follow the link:
ps- ignore the old fence
08-29-2010, 10:44 AM
She does not need fibreglass. Clean her up, making sure that there is no crud between the plank lands. Try to keep her damp, so that the wood will stabilise at a more normal humidity, she should then take up some. Please post more close up photo's so that we can see what you are dealing with. We can then offer more focused advice.
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08-29-2010, 01:19 PM
Thanks wizbang 13, I am going to have another look tomorrow, I'll get some more pics closer up. I really am out of my element, I have done carpentry for some time but never on anything that floated so I am hoping some of you will aid me through this long process. Thanks in advance.
08-29-2010, 03:15 PM
I am no expert, or fan of,clinker boats. I would dry her out and epoxify her, as i have done to all my boats.
08-29-2010, 04:05 PM
Disclaimer: The following is just my two cents which may be two cents more than it's actual value.
That is a pretty sweet hull. You are in for some work. Hang in there and you will have a gem. Search out some books on lapstrake boat-building so you have a better idea of what that kind of construction is all about.
Clinker Boatbuilding (http://www.amazon.com/Clinker-Boatbuilding-John-Leather/dp/0713636432/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115384&sr=1-1) by John Leather
Clenched Lap or Clinker (http://www.amazon.com/Clenched-Lap-Clinker-Eric-McKee/dp/B000VQ6YXK/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115384&sr=1-2) by Eric McKee
Lapstrake Boat Building (v. 1) (http://www.amazon.com/Lapstrake-Boat-Building-v-1/dp/0877420955/ref=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115557&sr=1-9) by Walter J. Simmons
It was probably built without caulking in the seams. What kind of fastenings are present? Rivets, roves, clenched nails, copper bronze, iron, chewing gum? It will be tempting to just start stuffing material in the gaps left as she dried out. Concentrate on cleaning out the seams without removing wood. Replace rot and corroded fastenings. In general it may be better to just rehab traditional construction than to interfere with the builder's original work. Then launch and see if you've done any good.
Other more experienced folks on this forum may have suggestions for useful flexible goo products that can keep the water out while being compatible with lapstrake planking. Best of luck. We are all pulling for you.
alright, found the books and ordered the books.
I am getting it covered tomorrow in a good work place. The Winters are pretty harsh here in South Finland but I want to do at least some work before it becomes to cold. Firstly I am going to clean it from bow to aft. There are some moss and what not, is there a specific cleaner or should I just scrape and clean with normal wood cleaning products?
08-30-2010, 12:20 AM
Can't really say anything for sure about the condition of the boat, but it looks like it is in pretty good shape to me. Unless there are big problems with rot in important spots, it looks like a fairly normal cleanup to me. Scrape it down, checking for soft spots. I prefer using heat and a good scraper for that job. Before I bought a heat gun, I used a regular ski 'burner' (you know... like you use to get old wax off your wooden skis) and a good scraper (Sandvik with carbon blades). Some people go for chemicals. That choice is up to you.
By the time you have it scraped down, you will know a lot more about your boat. Then check in for more advice...
thanks, will get back in a week or so
08-30-2010, 02:54 AM
Of the pics, I cannot see anything special to worry about. She leaks, of course, being that dry and long out off water. - Is the boat from West Finland, btw?
Some of the planks might have cracks, being a clinker built boat, don't try to fill them now. Just clean off the paint and varnish and try to look for rot.
If she has run aground once upon time, there might be something in the stem or keel. If she has been long on shore, most of the boat on dry land, stern in water, there might be something in the lower part of transom, keel and lowermost plank ends in the aft.
Pielisen rannoilta ;)
P.S. Sorry, I forgot she's a double ender, no transom. Intended for inboard engine. Looks fine!
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