For those who like joel white's stuff

[ErikH]

I got my hands on a set of Joel's plans for an 18' pulling/sailing boat. Steve didn't have them, so after takling with him I mailed him my plans. He'll copy them and send 'em back to me. It seemed right to have the yard possess a copy--and i didn't wanto to be responsible for destroying a beaty of a boat with an inadvertent coffee spill or the like.

Anyway, if others here are interested, Joel should have 'em at the end of next week. A little more on the boat:

She's functionally similar to a Shearwater. but she'll row better due to increased length. there's a plank keel (not on the shearwater) for easy beaching; the boat can easily be rolled up the beah on some PVC pipe. Standing lug rig of about 80 sf provides the sail power. She's got a daggerboard instead of a centerboard to save space, and removeable thwarts to provide some flexibility. She's very light construction: 1/4" ply glued lapstrake with epoxied and taped seams, and only 2 laminated frames in the finished boat. She's built on those 2 frames and 2 additional molds. Completed weight is 200 pounds.

Anyway, just some info for those considering a new vessel. To my eye, she falls nicely in size and complexity between a Shearwater (too small for what I need) and the Caledonia Yawl (too big and complicated for what I need).

[Keith Wilson]

Good God, man, make copies of your plans! Have a working set or two for the shop that you can get coffee and glue on, and a master set that you keep protected. If they are bluelines, copy them onto something more permanent NOW; bluelines fade. Most copy shops and every drafting supply place will be able to make large copies for not much money. This is certainly "fair use" under copyright law.

Anyway, congratulations on digging up these plans and resoring them to general circulation. Anything by Joel White deserves it. Good work! http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

[ 03-18-2005, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]

[Venchka]

Originally posted by ErikH:
... and the Caledonia Yawl (too big and complicated for what I need).HRUMPFFFFFFF!

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[htom]

A CY would be fine for taking all of my brothers and sisters for a daysail, but for Spice & I to go rowing down a local stream the Greater Shearwater sounds a bit more practical.

[Ben Fuller]

This is really Joel White's last boat and its confusing as to where the plans got. The original was built for a couple with kids here in Maine by Eric Dow. Now owned on the Penobscot and may be at Mystic.

I think I wrote up something about it in a piece on Island Trail cruisers. Set up nicely for rowing with one or two. Something that CY's don't do well.

The original has a thin piece of G 10 on bottow which wins arguements with rocks.

[Venchka]

Originally posted by Ben Fuller:
...Set up nicely for rowing with one or two. Something that CY's don't do well.

Which is why He created outboard motors on the 6th day so old Coots like me could rest on the 7th day. :cool:

I'm just tugging on y'all's legs. I'm sure it's a lovely boat. Hmmmm...maybe someday we can get Ben's Harrier, the Greater Shearwater and a CY together. Might be interesting. Y'all row. I'll carry the beer! :D

Good on you for finding and preserving the plans.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[ 03-18-2005, 10:42 PM: Message edited by: Venchka ]

[ErikH]

Hey, don't get me wrong, the CY is an amazing design. I sailed her at the WBS a while back and was duly impressed. She's too big for my wife and I to carry around, though, while the SS is small enough for us to muscle onto a trailer, over a seawall, and such. Now, if we only had teenagers instead of infants, we'd be all set with a heavier boat :D

[Venchka]

Originally posted by ErikH:
...while the SS is small enough for us to muscle onto a trailer, over a seawall, and such. Now, if we only had teenagers instead of infants, we'd be all set with a heavier boat :D Grinning. That would be an interesting choice. Teenagers so I could have a CY? NOT! :D Been there, did my time, ain't doing it again.

Even my CY is a breeze off/on the trailer solo. Over a seawall? Not without a crane. I can't picture needing to do that, but I am not where you are. Bottom line: any double ended boat is good.

Wayne
In the Swamp.

[JimConlin]

Who will have these plans and how can I get a set?

[JimConlin]

Bump

[ErikH]

Originally posted by JimConlin:
Who will have these plans and how can I get a set?Steve White at Brooklin Boatyard should have them by now. Give him a ring.

-E