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Meerkat
05-20-2005, 02:04 PM
Heeeere Venchka, Venchka, Venchka... :D

http://www.swallowboats.com/storm17grp/stm17grpcabin1.jpg

17' LOD ;)
Venchka
05-20-2005, 02:54 PM
Tanks!

Not for me. I have a perfect boat. Finished. Paid for!

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D
Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-20-2005, 04:58 PM
Meer the design is nice fer a Ketch ( ya know how I feel AND now I even have one :rolleyes: ;) ) But damn who did the drawing and rendering eeek gaaaahds that is awful. You are going to need better bait fer Venchka ;)
Venchka
05-20-2005, 05:04 PM
Be nice. Doing that kinda thing ain't easy. I know. I'm trying. Boats in software is hard.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D
Meerkat
05-20-2005, 05:05 PM
One may argue, but I'd call it a yawl - a supurb rig for a shoal water boat that might have to back herself out of tight corners.
Venchka
05-20-2005, 05:15 PM
Got that already. And a nice canoe paddle that backs up just fine. Did I mention paid for?

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D
Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-20-2005, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Venchka:
Be nice. Doing that kinda thing ain't easy. I know. I'm trying. Boats in software is hard.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid159/p96b756088dac90ebc87ed22b33685357/f505beb6.jpg

But what do I know I work on a Mac ;)
Ross M
05-20-2005, 08:13 PM
Give us a look at the isometric view, tough guy smile.gif

Ross
Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-20-2005, 08:29 PM
Oblique or isometric? Birds eye or worm eye perspective your choice ;) and you already know Im tuff :D
Ross M
05-20-2005, 08:51 PM
Ok, ok - just checking smile.gif

But just for the record, anything other than a 2D rendering would be nice...

Ross
Meerkat
05-20-2005, 09:50 PM
http://www.swallowboats.com/storm17/storm17-1.jpg

Without the cabin - is this realistic enough for you? tongue.gif
Meerkat
05-20-2005, 09:53 PM
http://www.swallowboats.com/storm17/storm17-3004.jpg

How about this? tongue.gif
Ross M
05-20-2005, 10:02 PM
smile.gif
Venchka
05-20-2005, 11:26 PM
For the record...

I do wish Iain offered something similar for the Caledonia yawl. I wish I had thought to take a chance and have John Anderson add the deck and cabin. Too late now. Perhaps someone will do it down the road.

What I'm working on in 3-D is creating each and every part for another boat. I have the plans. AutoCRAP doesn't do surfaces well. Or Wayne doesn't know how to do surfaces well. Either way, I think I'll move on to the timber bits and come back to the hull skin later. I could try creating the hull skin in Inventor. I hate Inventor right now.

Joe, does the software you are using do fly-bys and fly arounds? I've done that with an AutoCAD 3-D model. Way cool!

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D
Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-21-2005, 06:59 AM
Merrkat drool, NOW you are using good bait :D

Wayne the 2D program I used for the above drawing was a Simple Adobe Illustrator with some photoshop plug ins. I generally use that any time I want to just sketch out a quick idea and have it look nice. If I want to do iso or obli CAD drawings with flybys CAD movies and all that fun stuff I use Ashlar Vellum beautiful program for rendering in all perspectives. http://www.ashlar.com/

http://www.ashlar.com/sections/gallery/gallery-sections/transport/images/transport01a.jpg

http://www.ashlar.com/sections/gallery/gallery-sections/transport/images/transport04a.jpg

Check out the CAD movie
http://www.ashlar.com/sections/gallery/ gallery-sections/movies/movie01.html (http://www.ashlar.com/sections/gallery/gallery-sections/movies/movie01.html)

[ 05-21-2005, 08:05 AM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]
Jack Heinlen
05-21-2005, 02:28 PM
Nice looking KETCH! smile.gif

Am I missing something? That tiller with the mizzen right forward looks clumbsy.
John B
05-21-2005, 03:27 PM
I think that rendering of the ketch is perfectly suited to the purpose. Its not an art competition. I just want to see what the boat looks like and that rendering achieves that effectively.Lovely looking boat that it is.

Brett Bakewell-White is a nice guy. I was speaking to him a few weeks ago. He spent a lot of his early time with Laurie Davidson.. probably my favourite 'modern' designer. There's always a familial look about his boats. Enough that I regularly used to confuse his earlier boats for Davidsons.

[ 05-21-2005, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: John B ]
Don Maurer
05-22-2005, 12:12 PM
Nice looking KETCH!

Am I missing something? That tiller with the mizzen right forward looks clumbsy. If you look in the photo, there is a tiller extension to make it easier to steer with the mizzen mast in the way. Personally, I'd make a rudder post in front of the mizzen.
Jack Heinlen
05-22-2005, 01:32 PM
Don,

I saw the extension. It still looks bloody awkward. Put the helm down and then wrassle around the mizzen to keep a hand on. I'm sure you'd get used to it, and doubtless the designer thought about it long and hard, but still, awkward. It seems glaring to me, but maybe it would work fine. I don't like it. Too much going on right at the head of the tiller, which should be clear.

An argument for an inboard rudder, but given the sail plan it would have to be too far forward to eliminate this problem. An argument for a yawl rig AND an inboard rudder. smile.gif