Bartender

[Armedmariner]

Does anyone out there have information on plans for the Caulkins Bartender (I think Caulkins is the right name?)?

This was by far my dad's favorite boat design and I'd like to consider making one. They are double enders. I'd like to make it the stitch and glue method and I'd like to use a diesel inboard. I think the originals were intended to be pretty fast on the water but I am not interested in speed as much as its seakeeping ability.

If a traditional Bartender plan is not available for stitch and glue then I could conceivably make my own plans but that would be a HUGE project I think. Devlin has an interesting chapter in his book on how to adapt a plan to stitch and glue and I think I could do it.

Another option is a SIMILAR design, something like a Bartender only more modern.

I'm open to any thinking you guys have out there.

Thanks,
Armedmariner

[Alan D. Hyde]

Mr. Calkins is still alive and well, and continues to sell plans.

You may reach him at:

George Calkins
P.O. Box 222
Nordland, WA 98358-0222

A recent issue of WoodenBoat had an excellent article on Calkins and his Bartenders.

Alan

[ 01-06-2003, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: Alan D. Hyde ]

[Tom Lathrop]

The Bartender is probably a very good boat for its intended purpose but is not outstanding for other purposes. To get the seakeeping qualities with a double ended powerboat you give up cockpit space, speed and efficiency for other waters. Its called the Bartender because Calkins designed it to run the bars at the mouth of rivers in the Pacific Northwest where the condidions are too rough much of the time for conventional powerboats.

Some people add horizontal fins at or just below the aft waterline to try to prevent the stern from squatting so much under power. I expect they help but it is still not an optimum hull choice if you don't really need the ability to negotiate breaking waves.

[Armedmariner]

Hi Tom,

Been searching and reading about Bartenders all day today (while it snows outside) and I do like them. I understand your concerns about the design being restricted. I see why. Thanks for that lesson. I saw somewhere on this forum that a boat called the Ninigret is similar in design to the Bartender but not double ended and it runs an outboard in a well (which I like for efficiency reasons).

Currently I'm building a Walter Baron Old Wharf Dory Company 20' Lumber Yard Skiff. I've been contemplating my next boat actually. I still have to get this one in the water! Should be there by mid spring at the latest. I'm making good progress!

[Tar Devil]

I'd like to make it the stitch and glue method This was discussed in the Yahoo Bartender group ( Bartender Discussion Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bartenderboat/) )

I think the concensus was stitch and glue isn't a very good idea for this boat. One of the participants even discussed the possibility with George Calkins, who was strongly against the idea of a stitch and glue Bartender.

Later,

Phil

[blisspacket]

The bartender is featured in WB 163, Dec 2001. I have the 23' version, with hydraulic trim tabs operating at the end of flat horizontal foils that give added lift. With the 165hp diesel she does 19 knots on flat water and will get up on plane readily. Were I to build one, I'd opt for the 26' version. The cabin in mine is pretty cramped.