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JimD
06-27-2005, 04:55 PM
Did this George Buehler design appear in the 'Pretty in Plywood' thread? Not that I'll ever build her but it's amazing how classy a simple chined plywood boat can be. In my humble opinion, of course.

JUNA JUNOSDAUTTER

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LOD: 37' 8" .... LWL: 31' 1" .... Beam: 10' 4" .... Draft: 5' 6" Displ.: 22100 pounds lbs.

CB: .887' aft midsection. .... Prismatic: .62 .... Block: .43 .... Displ/Length: 328
(working) Sail Area: 710' .... S.A./Displ ratio (working) 14.4

JUNA JUNOSDAUTTER

While this is an older design she's still one of my favorites in her size range of anything around. Strong statement, I know, but who cares.
JUNA was designed as a close copy of JUNO, a boat I designed and built back in the 70's (see WoodenBoat Nov.'87). JUNO worked just great, and after I sold her served as a traveling doctor's office in Alaska for over 10 years. However, old JUNO was just a bit tender initially, and JUNA takes the same ideas that made JUNO so successful, but has a bit firmer mid-section and higher aspect sailplan to make her more weatherly, a bit flatter run to make her faster, and is a couple feet longer for the beam which makes wrapping hull material on even easier along with giving a trimmer shape and a little longer waterline so she moves easier.
She is as simple to build as a seaworthy, ocean going boat can be, and can be planked wood, plywood, or steel. She should be able to be built quite inexpensively if you follow my suggestions and keep things simple. And that reminds me of a funny story.....
I originally drew this design for a Design Contest for Cruising World magazine, back, I think it was, in the late 1980s. I wasn't so cynical back then, and actually thought they meant what they said in the rules. The object, they said, was a cruising boat designed for a young couple "just starting out." For the reasons described above (to stay brief!) I thought this boat was a natural.
Well, she didn't even place. The winner was designed by a New Zealander, who said he thought his fantasy could be built for under one quarter million dollars. I wrote to one of the judges after that and said; “good thing ya’ll were lookin fer a boat fer a young couple just startin out. God Forbid had you aimed for a “mature” couple with a savings account....” To his credit, he wrote back saying he was embarrassed about that himself.... Oh well.
Her basic hull shape is balanced and symmetrical ended which assures predictable behavior. She has a good deal of reserve buoyancy in her flared form, and it will take close to 3,000 pounds of provisions to sink her from her "vacation" trim of 2" high, down to her cruising waterline (shown on the sailplan view).
Her interior is set up to be comfortable for two, with a real galley, a large double bunk, and lots of storage. Her dinette will convert to a "guest bunk". Her short house can be extended if you want, but as designed she has lots of deck space to carry a good sized skiff, something few small cruising boats (and some large ones) can do. Besides, the low headroom is just over the bunk, and you don't need headroom there, and is structurally good. I've found this to be an ideal cruising and live-aboard interior. Yes, there's times when sleeping in the bow isn't the most comfortable but you know, even Joshua Slocum was at anchor 90% of the time and the rare time it's uncomfortable in the bow, then sleep on the couch. Or the sole even. But go ahead and change it if you want. Part of the fun in building a custom boat is setting things up just as you want them!
Her cutter rig is very strong, and still simple and inexpensive. Her sailplan is very versatile, and can easily be single handed. The bowsprit has a tackle on it so you don't ever need to go out on the end if you don't want, yet at the same time makes anchoring easier, and gives a "J" to carry a huge light weather sail if you want to. I'd go with the Marconi version because it's so simple but a gaff version is included with the plans too, so you decide.
Since I'm the designer you might want to take what I say with a grain of salt. But, I'm very pleased with this design, and don't see how you could do better for a medium sized cruising boat big enough for a couple to be comfortable on, or for single handing. She is easy and inexpensive to build, very strong and safe, good looking, and sails well.

[ 06-27-2005, 06:02 PM: Message edited by: JimD ]

landlocked sailor
06-27-2005, 05:13 PM
I dig George's stuff, he really has an eye for the shippy and salty line, yet very doable by the amatuer. My only beef is all his boats have fairly deep draft; understandable in the Pacific NW but less useful on the East Coast and the Intercoastal WW. His Diesel Ducks will amke your eyes rust! Rick

StevenBauer
06-27-2005, 05:22 PM
Now that's a nice boat! When do you start building? And will you take me for a sail?

Steven

JimD
06-27-2005, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by StevenBauer:
Now that's a nice boat! When do you start building? And will you take me for a sail?

StevenI'm gonna start building tonight, as soon as I finish this cup of coffee. I figure I should have her in the water by mid July or so. And of course you can come for a sail. Bring the whole family! :D

Venchka
06-27-2005, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by JimD:
...I figure I should have her in the water by mid July or so. And of course you can come for a sail. Bring the whole family! :D Only if the snow melts on the passes before then. :D And doesn't come back before mid July! :D

Wayne
I'll be back! In the Swamp. :D

[ 06-27-2005, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: Venchka ]

Stephen Hutchins
06-27-2005, 06:32 PM
I Love Buehler's design's. His was the first book I ever read on boatbuilding. That was back in 1991. He must a hooked me real good. smile.gif

Meerkat
06-27-2005, 07:26 PM
Notice how far back the mast is from the stem in a proper cutter! 2 staysails does seem like it would be quite a handful though!

John B
06-27-2005, 07:55 PM
I thought you hated bowsprits Jim?

RodB
06-27-2005, 09:51 PM
I read his book and emailed him a few times trying to find a design with a shallower draft, but he pretty much said he didn't have any and wasn't likely to have any in the future...

RB

Gavin Atkin
06-28-2005, 06:28 AM
Great yacht, no doubt, but far beyond anything I'll ever be able to own/build/maintain.

But what's that tender behind it? Does anyone know please?

Thanks, Gavin

Gavin Atkin
06-28-2005, 06:31 AM
Great yacht, no doubt, but far beyond anything I'll ever be able to own/build/maintain.

But what's that tender behind it? Does anyone know please?

Thanks, Gavin

JimD
06-28-2005, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by John B:
I thought you hated bowsprits Jim?I only hate them on my boat. On other people's I think they're great :D

Ed Armstrong
06-30-2005, 10:53 AM
It is strikingly beautiful. The lines kind of remind me of the Zimmer Sloop:

http://www.woodenboatstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=400-044

hard-chined, though for carvel or strip, not plywood, construction. I've always liked the Zimmer Sloop for a gaff-rigged trailerable, though I prefer the look of round bilged hulls.

Ed

kc8pql
06-30-2005, 06:16 PM
I think those photos go a long way toward de-bunking the myth that Buehler's boats are clunkie designs built by people with no talent or skill.

Badley Built
06-30-2005, 08:12 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gavin Atkin:

But what's that tender behind it? Does anyone know please?

My guess would be a Herreshoff pram.

RonB.

Aramas
06-30-2005, 08:24 PM
Are there any upwind shots showing the chine sticking out of the water?

JimD
06-30-2005, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Aramas:
Are there any upwind shots showing the chine sticking out of the water?Of course not!

Kermit
06-30-2005, 10:53 PM
Here's the Buehler boat I'd like to build!

http://www.georgebuehler.com/Pilgrim.html

44' pushed by a 10 HP SABB G. Unreal.

George lives just up the road from me, and I'm afraid to bring up the subject. I think he'd have me talked into doing it. And then there's my wife...

Dale R. Hamilton
07-01-2005, 08:27 AM
Kermit- I think George's Diesel Ducks are the best looking boats I ever saw. In fact I think I shall buy one on my retirement. Built in China.

Stephen Hutchins
07-01-2005, 01:11 PM
Hmmm... Buehler must live in a better world than I, because I know there is no way in hell a burger flipper could afford to build that boat.( The Pilgrim) At least not one that has to support himself!

Kermit
07-03-2005, 11:12 PM
Minimum wage is higher here in Washington than it is where you live. :D tongue.gif :D

Gavin Atkin
07-04-2005, 07:04 AM
Badley:

It might be a Herreshof pram, but the yacht was built in Germany for a German citizen, so my guess is that it's likely to be a German or Danish dinghy.

What I'm trying to work out is whether it's hard of soft chined (and either finished bright or woody brown), or whether it's lapstrake. A regional hard-chined or even soft-chined boat that shape might be interesting.

Gav

kc8pql
08-15-2005, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by JimD:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Aramas:
Are there any upwind shots showing the chine sticking out of the water?Of course not!</font>[/QUOTE]Here's one. It's George's own original Juno.

http://tinypic.com/allr4l.jpg

JimD
08-15-2005, 09:11 PM
Well, that's not so bad for a hard chine! :D