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Polizei
04-10-2010, 05:33 PM
Hi guys,

First post here but lurking for a bit.

I have searched for this topic already but haven't found a decent thread - please direct me if one exists.

What I am after is information on how one sets up their workshop when building a boat. Where to put key power tools, bench setup, lumbar storage, etc. How to maximize efficiency.

I imagine some of you have excellent workshops at home and would love to see as many pics as possible!

This thread is inspired by my desire to build a iain oughtred double ender as my first boat as seen in the recent issue of WB.

WX
04-10-2010, 06:19 PM
lumbar storage
You need storage for your lower back? :D

WX
04-10-2010, 06:20 PM
Interesting tag you have there.

SMARTINSEN
04-10-2010, 06:23 PM
Where is TerryLL these days? He posted some pictures of his very well laid out shop, though it is not specifically devoted to boat building. You may wish to search for some of his posts. Also fellow Forumite Jay Greer (amongst others.)

Larks
04-10-2010, 06:58 PM
There have been a couple of threads on this topic, here's a good start
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?t=82912

Richard Jones
04-10-2010, 08:19 PM
Seems I remember an article in WBM about workshops a few years ago. Had a few good examples ranging in different sizes. You could check out WB index to find it. But, any port in a storm. Just need a flat floor, enough room to swing things and a door big enough to get the boat out. Good luck!

boylesboats
04-10-2010, 09:55 PM
Sorry, I wish I could... but I don't have a building for boatbuilding.. Lately it all been done outdoor under wide open blue sky... covered with tarp nightly

Polizei
04-10-2010, 10:10 PM
Thanks for the leads...

Certainly some food for thought.

The Garage Journal is a forum devoted to garages, but mainly for cars.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/

Lots of ultimate builds - but most are more like showrooms rather than grass roots workshops.

Larks
04-10-2010, 10:27 PM
I'm gradually sorting out my shed, I have acquired a good large steel framed work bench that I'm going to mount some lockable wheels to so that I can move it about, mostly it will sit out into the workshop so that I can work around all sides.

I'm running work a workbench the length of the shed with drawers under to hold clear lid boxes of screws, fittings etc so that I can access them easily but still be able to take them away of needed. The plan is to have a recess for my drop saw and another for my band saw so that I can lay long lengths along the bench in line with the beds of those saws.

I've just about finished knocking up a large but quick and dirty MDF cupboard, from mostly scraps and leftovers of MDF from my kitchen build, with sliding doors for all of my power tools and other stuff that I want to keep dust off.

I'm yet to sort out a new spot for all of my clamps which I have displaced by the new cupboard, previously I had them hanging in small (ie 100mm) lengths of PVC tube that the handles fitted into, G clamps hung over the shed wall frames.


Here's a few more in this thread:
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?t=93789&page=2

jsjpd1
04-11-2010, 12:04 AM
When I built my Caledonia Yawl I didn't have a shop that would accomodate boat building (and I still don't). But I did have a tarp and a spot to setup.

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/jsjpd1/080421_93.jpg

And a seven foot wide shed long enough to work the planks up in.

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/jsjpd1/080520_69.jpg

That and a few tools is pretty much all you need. If I had to wait until I had a shop, I'd never have boat.


Oh, and one more thing, you have to be really excited about boat building.

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/jsjpd1/080520_80.jpg

And now I have a boat.

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/jsjpd1/Jimandsparrow.jpg

Jim

AstoriaDave
04-11-2010, 03:23 AM
Tons of ways to do it. Most a function of what site/garage you have to work with. Some general layout ideas:

1. Put as many of the larger items on rollers (Rockler sells these) as possible: table saw, planer, drill press.

2. Put all your storage and the above against the walls, using as little central floorspace as possible.

3. Line the walls at head height and above with deep shelves (12 inches of more) for quick access to items not needed regularly.

4. Dedicate a section of wall to clamp storage: on shallow shelves, clamped to same, with the long axes vertical.

5. Place a largish (4 feet by eight feet is a good start if the shop is small) work table in the center, perhaps bolted to the floor, with power coming up from the floor beneath it.

6. Make one wall openable (french doors) so you can run longer stock out it for ripping longer material.

7. Set up a smaller bench area against a wall, equipped with a sturdy vise for metalworking; hand tools on pegboard behind it is a convenient storage area and makes good use of the wall space.

These photos show some of these suggestions in the background; dinghy project in foreground: http://www.pbase.com/bartenderdave/image/122486082 (and next three)

http://www.pbase.com/bartenderdave/image/121836517

Just put these up; they do a better job of showing the interior layout: http://www.pbase.com/bartenderdave/shedshop

Coda: I built a 20-ft power boat in a 20 ft by 24 ft garage space, over a two year time span, with no forethought about layout, and it was torture. Everything in a haphazard place; compromises galore because it was a garage; shared areas for household items, etc. Give some careful thoght to your needs, and keep the center clear.

Polizei
04-11-2010, 09:01 AM
thanks for all the leads guys

starting to get a bit of a feel for the boat shops that work well.

I at least have a roof over my head jim :)

jsjpd1
04-11-2010, 03:25 PM
Roofs are good, no doubt about it. On the plus side though, I didn't have to worry about running into walls during plank up.

One thing I would certainly do is put all my bigger equipment on wheels. Before moving into the spacious outdoors, my previous work space was a single car garage that occasionally had to have a car in it. Having the table saw and band saw on wheels was a very handy thing.

huisjen
04-11-2010, 06:47 PM
For a simple shelter to build in, a number of people have found bow top sheds useful. I used one for a greenhouse, and we discussed it in The Bilge (http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?t=96513) a while ago.

Dan

Raka025
04-12-2010, 08:19 AM
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL2097/12515867/22265627/379775839.jpg


http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL2097/12515867/22265627/385547510.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL2097/12515867/22265627/385547509.jpg

They're still a work in progress. That is the boat and the shed.

Larks
04-12-2010, 04:16 PM
I do like that clear wall!!! Such light!!

Polizei
04-14-2010, 07:14 PM
I agree the clear wall is a great idea!

I ended up reading the whole thread about the Peterson build posted by RobB I think that work shop is awesome. Good space. Nice layout of machinery.

i particularly liked the bandsaw did anyone know what make that was?