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PeterSibley
04-03-2010, 09:54 PM
The body is about 5" long , the rest of it , perhaps 3" . The tree is a guava for comparisons sake .A leaf feeder or sap sucker of some type ...I haven't see one like it before .

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL282/9443996/17245530/385214000.jpg

Phillip Allen
04-03-2010, 11:10 PM
have you checked on your neighbor lately...that may be him

katey
04-03-2010, 11:14 PM
Egad.

Noah
04-03-2010, 11:27 PM
Yummy.

Larks
04-04-2010, 04:02 AM
How far away is that nuclear power plant?

downthecreek
04-04-2010, 04:20 AM
Gosh! Australian wildlife is a constant source of wonder, even to you Aussies. :)

ishmael
04-04-2010, 07:29 AM
I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at, but a big green worm, eh?

A kinda fun worm in Ohio, is the Horned Tomato Devil. That's what we kids called it anyway. It was strange. It did have horns, two of them maybe a inch long. The body was four inches long, the horns tipped with brilliant orange. The larval stage of the Cercopia moth, if I'm not mistaken. It was called a tomato devil because it ate up the leaves.

The above could be wrong in fact, but not in intent. There's a French naturalist whose name escapes me, who wrote extensively about insects. Want a trip into what seems bizzare? Read about the lives of insects. And how does a Monarch butterfly spin the gold for its chrysalis?

My picture posting skills are poor, but maybe someone will post a Monarch chrysalis.

Mrleft8
04-04-2010, 07:36 AM
I suppose it's deadly venomous....

JimJ
04-04-2010, 07:42 AM
Bogan

ishmael
04-04-2010, 10:12 AM
Oh, I see it now. Good camo!

Tristan
04-04-2010, 10:23 AM
There's a French naturalist whose name escapes me, who wrote extensively about insects. Want a trip into what seems bizzare? Read about the lives of insects. And how does a Monarch butterfly spin the gold for its chrysalis?



That was Jean-Henri Fabre;)

David G
04-04-2010, 05:10 PM
That looks like a large snake. Is it? It's quite beautiful.

It's not as large (or probably, as agressive) as the ones we have in some of our cities here:

http://www.epica-awards.com/pages/results/2009/finalists/print/images/27_01327_Zoo_Bus_Epica_CMYK.jpg

http://www.epica-awards.com/pages/results/2009/finalists/print/images/27_01327_Zoo_Bus_Epica_CMYK.jpg

mizzenman
04-04-2010, 05:15 PM
You can take the bus from Oregon to Nörreport?

thats quite amazing;)

David G
04-04-2010, 05:20 PM
Ragnar boyka,

Hyperbole... sheer hyperbole!

PeterSibley
04-04-2010, 05:48 PM
Oh, I see it now. Good camo!

Yes, it's quite big , a lot more than first meets the eye .:D

WX
04-04-2010, 06:12 PM
Oh no! Global warming mutations have started already!

Interesting one Peter, I haven't seen that one before either. Can you get a profile shot of it?

WX
04-04-2010, 06:14 PM
Maybe hold a sheet of paper behind it to block out the background as well.

Phillip Allen
04-04-2010, 06:37 PM
Maybe hold a sheet of paper behind it to block out the background as well.

the neighbor tried holding a sheet of paper behind it and now he's gone missing

PeterSibley
04-04-2010, 06:56 PM
Your wish is my command ,it's still in the same place as it was yesterday .

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL282/9443996/17245530/385255060.jpg

Phillip Allen
04-04-2010, 07:00 PM
mantis...

Woxbox
04-04-2010, 07:07 PM
A walking leaf.

PeterSibley
04-04-2010, 07:08 PM
nearly ....but unlike any other I've seen around here .

Phillip Allen
04-04-2010, 07:10 PM
still looks like a mantis to me. I notice the leaves have been cut by something?

Peter Malcolm Jardine
04-04-2010, 07:10 PM
Hmmm not a typical mantis for sure... ... too bulky.

Phillip Allen
04-04-2010, 07:12 PM
Hmmm not a typical mantis for sure... ... too bulky.

accounts for the missing neighbor...

The Bigfella
04-04-2010, 07:21 PM
it's still in the same place as it was yesterday


So are some of the other leaf eaters up your way.... it looks stoned.

oznabrag
04-04-2010, 07:22 PM
So are some of the other leaf eaters up your way.... it looks stoned.

You badmouthin' the Dingo, again?

Peter Malcolm Jardine
04-04-2010, 07:29 PM
We have a match I believe....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fc/Extatosoma_tiaratum.jpg/250px-Extatosoma_tiaratum.jpg

Extatosoma tiaratum (common names Giant Prickly Stick Insect[1], Macleay's Spectre[2]) is a large species of stick insect endemic to Australia

Female adult E. tiaratum are covered with thorn-like spikes for defense and camouflage. Their long, rounded bodies grow to about 8 inches (20 cm) long.[3][4] The females are further described as "heavy-bodied, brachypterous and (having) numerous spines and integumental expansions on the body and legs, including a tuft of spines on the conical occiput of the hypognathous head".[5] As mentioned, the wings of the female are too small for flying, especially when she is gravid.[1]

Exhibiting the sexual dimorphism of many similar insects (particularly other phasmids as well as mantises), males are small and thinner, growing only about 11 cm in length and have three ocelli. Males lack the thorny growths except for spikes around their heads. They have long wings and are good flyers who readily take to the air if disturbed or in search of females.[3][6]

Both genders, when threatened, stand on the front and middle legs, pointing their abdomen up or to the side in a sort of "scorpion" pose. They fold back their legs to defend themselves if anything comes in contact with their abdomen.[3] Adult males can release a defensive odor that humans might not find offensive as it "is rather reminiscent of peanut butter or toffee".[1]

E. tiaratum also take a curved pose when it hangs inverted amongst foliage with "its highly procryptic abdomen curled over its back."[2] Like many stick insects, E. tiaratum sway back and forth or side to side when disturbed. They also move this way to blend with foliage rustling in the wind.[1] Individual E. tiaratum vary in color and appear brown, mottled brown, dun, green, a reddish color, a cream color, a yellowish color, and even entirely white.[2][5]

Peter Malcolm Jardine
04-04-2010, 07:33 PM
Evidently, you have a large female here.... a very interesting insect!!

PeterSibley
04-04-2010, 07:58 PM
Well done Peter , are you an amatuer entomologist are just good at research ?

I have quite a variety of stick insects here .

PeterSibley
04-04-2010, 08:30 PM
I've found , well actually my daughter ( who has better eyes ) has found 2 males about 2m from the female .

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL282/9443996/17245530/385257640.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL282/9443996/17245530/385257638.jpg

oznabrag
04-04-2010, 09:16 PM
So very cool!

Thanks, fellas!
:D

Breakaway
04-04-2010, 09:54 PM
Recipes?

BrianW
04-05-2010, 01:18 AM
Recipes?

Oh geez!

I'm guessing they use them as long pig stuffing.

ishmael
04-05-2010, 05:34 AM
This place is almost as good as National Geographic! LOL.

And yes, Tristan, Fabre! A good writer. I imagine he inspired a generation of sci-fi writers.

Insects seem pretty alien when you get a good look at just what they are up to. I'll tell ya, the tomato horned worm looked like it had landed from a different planet! Stuff you can't make up. Most people just pass it by, but as kids at the time, not glued to a phone, running in the fields, we saw all kinds of odd stuff in the local gardens.

That leaf insect is great. Evolution and God having a interesting dream.

purri
04-05-2010, 06:03 AM
Female to male: "If'ya wanna frock me then I gotta I rip'yer bloody head
orf".

Germaine Greer anyone?

bljones
04-05-2010, 06:15 AM
Adult males can release a defensive odor that humans might not find offensive as it "is rather reminiscent of peanut butter..".

Perhaps not the best defensive tool to use when one is in a jam.



*rimshot*

Phillip Allen
04-05-2010, 07:30 AM
Oh, my!

oznabrag
04-05-2010, 08:29 AM
Don't be upset, Phil, he's just trying to spread a little joy.

Phillip Allen
04-05-2010, 08:33 AM
once it starts it becomes a slippery slope... :)

Peerie Maa
04-05-2010, 08:40 AM
Bit of a sticky wicket there.

Phillip Allen
04-05-2010, 08:41 AM
...then wash your wicket!

paul oman
04-05-2010, 11:09 AM
I think I dated its sister....

htom
04-05-2010, 12:19 PM
Wow. The world is -such- an amazing place.

Peter Malcolm Jardine
04-05-2010, 05:16 PM
I cut and pasted that from Wiki, but I used to do some bug stuff, so I knew how to research. First of all, Oz has bugs and animals that no one else has :D

PeterSibley
04-05-2010, 05:58 PM
As I said before Peter ,welcome and well done .I do OK with butterflies and have a couple of very recent identification books but insect of other varieties ? I'm just generally boggled !:):D

Wild Dingo
04-06-2010, 02:51 AM
aaahh see with 2 males pretty close by shes got it sorted perfectly... have sex one day eat mate straight after note here that gives the other one a half a chance to get away before she wants sex with him then its all over red rover... aahh the wiles of women eh? even in the insect world they just want you to mate and then they eat you alive!!! :D :D

Wild Dingo
04-06-2010, 02:53 AM
I suppose it's deadly venomous....

Naturally ;) We dont bother with those namby pamby non venomous ones :D

Paul Pless
04-06-2010, 07:34 AM
aaahh see with 2 males pretty close by shes got it sorted perfectly... have sex one day eat mate straight after note here that gives the other one a half a chance to get away before she wants sex with him then its all over red rover... aahh the wiles of women eh? even in the insect world they just want you to mate and then they eat you alive!!! :D :DAin't it likely that the males will fight to the death with the survivor getting the chance to mate then be eaten immediately afterwards?