Redwing- WB plan #108

[imported_Dutch]

I posted a note earlier asking for suggestions for a power boat which could be used for cruising camping for weekends or a few days- I got a lot of help and good suggestions- I had forgotten about seeing pictures of Redwing from wooden boat plans # 108 and this boat may be all I need. I have a lot of questions about her before Im willing to plunk down$ 70.00 for plans ( plus shipping) Does anyone have any experience building or using this design- Is the cabin too small to be comfortable-what is her beam could she be stretched out a bit in length- whats her weight - is she flat or v bottomed and how does she perform? etc. Any information on this plan would be appreciated.

[ 08-28-2002, 06:19 PM: Message edited by: oldmanofthesea ]

[ken mcclure]

Look at and talk to Chesapeake Marine Design (http://www.cmdboats.com/rw26.htm). They can tell you a lot about the Redwing.

[Mark Van]

It is flat bottomed, and it looks like it would be a little cramped inside. Mike O'Brian's Boat Design Quartarly #1 has a review of it.
Length 18' 6"
Beam 6' 6"
Draft 1' 0"
Displacement: 850 lbs light, 1,250 lbs loaded
10 to 20 hp outboard.
I'ts a very nice looking boat.
Mark

[Mike Vogdes]

I also like this design, bought the plans a few years ago but can't seem to comit myself to build it.

CMD offers it in a 21' version but I like the looks of the 18' version better, trouble is it does looked cramped. You can build it with a hindged cabintop to gain more headroom but I don't think I like that idea.

The enclosed engine well looks nice however I suspect the engine will not run correctly in a lidded enclosed box. I have built a boat with an outboard in a well befor and the well would soot up after a good run, this was no big deal because the boat was a planing hull, but this design is slow (about 6 knots) and it looks like the exaust may have trouble exiting the transom cutout.

I have been considering Sam Devlins Honker with a bolt-on removable cabin. This design looks like it would meet your criteria as well, with a little imagination and engineering you could design a nice cabin that could be removed if you desire for fishing or whatever. This design would be easy to trailer and is fast (30-35)

Then again, on your last post Tom Lathrop checked in with his Bluejacket design, he mentioned he was working on a 20' version which I would like to see.

And, Gary Porter mentioned the Tolman Skiff, that design caught my eye so I sent for the book. This design looks very versital as well.

[imported_Dutch]

Mike-

Mike- You brought up some excellent points I had failed to consider, chiefly that of the motor inside a well and an enclosed box. I have experience with other well boats- the Simmons Skiff being one of them and have had no problem with exhaust gases building up, but as you said my normal speed in those boats are over 20 knots and a good breeze is flowing through the cockpit and well. Id hate to worry about carbon monoxide buildup or an overheating engine. Does anyone know anything about this potential problem or is there nothing to worry about here?

[Donn]

Seems to me that any enclosed engine compartment can be adequately ventilated.

[Wayne Jeffers]

Originally posted by donnwest:
Seems to me that any enclosed engine compartment can be adequately ventilated.Yep.

And unless you happen to be in the enclosed compartment, or standing in front of the exhaust, carbon monoxide should not be much of a concern.

Wayne

[imported_Dutch]

several years ago I had to have an old wooden cabin cruiser of mine towed- the owner of the marina I had towing it used a large Searay to tow it ( Searay is a manufacturer of large plastic boats ) He about croaked from carbon monoxide poisoning- dont know what exactly happened but apparently a following breeze helped to push the engine exhaust into his partly enclosed cockpit.Maybe it was a freak thing but I have heard of other deaths and near deaths due to CO and want to be careful.

[Meerkat]

This place sells kits for the Redwing 18:

Seaside Small Craft (http://www.seasidesmallcraft.com/)

Hmmm, looks like Chesapeake Marine Design has started offering hull kits too for several sizes of Redwing (and it wouldn't surprise me if the above people actually did the cutting).

18' hull kit $3250
21' hull kit $4500

Dunno if this size will work for you.
Specifications:
Length: 18'-6"
Beam: 6'-6"
Draft: 1'-0"
Weight: 1200 lbs
Power: 5-10 hp

As for your other questions, I've talked via email with Mr. Stambaugh, and I think he would give you honest answers. Seaside Small Craft might also be a good source.

Hope this helps...

[Wiley Baggins]

oldmanofthesea,

I can't remember what designs were mooted in your original thread (or the parameters) but if the REDWINGS are on the small side, perhaps Stambaugh would be interested in stretching the design a bit more. Another alternative might be Arch Davis' boats. He has two JIFFY 22 models (one flat bottomed and one with a V-bottom) as well as a "simple" lobsterboat, JACK TAR. These might be too big though. Good luck.

Arch Davis designs (http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisdesign/)