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Phillip Allen
03-15-2010, 09:29 AM
all I need is a pic of one I like and I can use that to build a 14 foot gate...after searching for a while, all I can find is businesses wanting to sell me gates or gate kits...not what I want

anybody got any ideas?

Mrleft8
03-15-2010, 09:32 AM
Jim Ledger did a nice one a few years ago.....

Phillip Allen
03-15-2010, 09:34 AM
I think I remember it...

what I'm looking for is function and nothing decorative...I'm just trying to beat the price of a steel gate and I like wood better...my labor will be free on this

will use treated lumber except the top rail (some horses tend to crib and I don't want them chewing the treated stuff)

Paul Pless
03-15-2010, 09:37 AM
after searching for a while, all I can find is businesses wanting to sell me gates or gate kits...did you do a google image search?:confused:

Phillip Allen
03-15-2010, 09:40 AM
I've never done that...give me a hint

all I think I need is a line drawing on a napkin

Mrleft8
03-15-2010, 09:42 AM
Why pressure treated? I'd use Pine with a White Oak cap rail.

Phillip Allen
03-15-2010, 09:43 AM
Why pressure treated? I'd use Pine with a White Oak cap rail.

pressure treated keeps me from having to replace it in a few years

Mrleft8
03-15-2010, 09:44 AM
Pine won't rot if you keep it off the ground. PT is heavy and ugly

Paul Pless
03-15-2010, 09:49 AM
I've never done that...give me a hint

all I think I need is a line drawing on a napkintry this search engine:

http://images.google.com/imghp?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hl=en&tab=wi

Paul Pless
03-15-2010, 10:00 AM
Noooo! Why did you tell him? you can lead a horse to water. . .;)

Phillip Allen
03-15-2010, 10:01 AM
thanks, Paul (I'll talk to you later, Fred) :)

htom
03-15-2010, 10:05 AM
Like this: http://www.richardbealblog.com/?p=3054

S/V Laura Ellen
03-15-2010, 10:13 AM
here are some

http://chestofbooks.com/home-improvement/woodworking/Community-Shop-Projects/images/Farm-Gate.jpg

http://chestofbooks.com/home-improvement/woodworking/Community-Shop-Projects/images/Introductory-Statement-197.jpg

http://chestofbooks.com/home-improvement/woodworking/Community-Shop-Projects/images/Introductory-Statement-198.jpg

Popeye
03-15-2010, 10:18 AM
you could try searching 'farm gate' and see how it goes ..

http://www.glamorganwalks.com/Farm_gate.jpg

Phillip Allen
03-15-2010, 10:26 AM
thanks all...I just couldn't seem to get it together this morning and ran out of patients

Popeye
03-15-2010, 10:27 AM
.. ran out of patients

patience

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
03-15-2010, 10:34 AM
Gates are easy once you've learned to weld.

Jim Ledger
03-15-2010, 10:40 AM
The problems with a wide farm gate are twofold, hinging and diagonal support. With this in mind, the first problem to tacle is finding suitable hinges. The diagonal support is usually a solid metal rod with nuts on each end running from the top of the hinge side stile to the bottom of the opposite stile. If you can make the hinge post and hinge stile taller than the gate itself, you will have given the structure a better configuration to resist sagging, as the hinges can be spread apart and the diagonal is steeper.

CCA is just fine for makeing a utilitarian gate, through bolting would be the best method of joining. It doesn't always have to be a work of art.

First, find some suitable hinges and a steel rod. The hinges have to be pretty heavy and the rod about a half inch diameter.

George.
03-15-2010, 10:40 AM
This one would make for a good weekend project: :D

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_0mkhTlv0pa4/SNTdS5BdTzI/AAAAAAAACdA/d7edatO64tA/CIMG2556.JPG

Anyway, you are supposed to be writing about submarines, not farm gates. ;)

Ian McColgin
03-15-2010, 10:48 AM
I love Popeye's pic especially because it shows the value of square section end, top and bottom beams and it has fascinating engineering.

The big challenge in a large gate is to prevent warping. On Dad's gates, we put a brace wire in between paired down diagonal planks on each side of the horizontals. This enabled us to make non-warping 16' gates with lighter planks.

Lotta ways to skin this cat.

G'luck

Popeye
03-15-2010, 10:57 AM
you could probably come up with a simple bracing rig without too much effort

coupla tangs , cable and turnbuckle

you guys are sailors , right ?

SMARTINSEN
03-15-2010, 11:21 AM
Maybe you should advertise, Dr. Allen. :p
Or Dr. Phil.

Phillip Allen
03-15-2010, 11:44 AM
patience

I can never remember the spelling of some words no matter how hard I try

"You can bath em and bath em and they still stinks"

Stiletto
03-16-2010, 01:37 AM
http://www.theshedmag.co.nz/cms/images/stories/june_july_09/gate_2.jpg

The traditional Kiwi farm gate is all made from roughsawn 5"x1" or so, and the components are bolted together. Short doublers are added where the hinges bolt through on the top and bottom rails. a 4"x1" is nailed on its flat across the top to add stiffness.

Stiletto
03-16-2010, 01:47 AM
http://www.theshedmag.co.nz/cms/images/stories/june_july_09/gate_2.jpg

Three Cedars
03-16-2010, 01:50 AM
Damn Canadian Socialists giving away free gate plans ! ;)

http://www.cps.gov.on.ca/english/plans/E8000/8364/8364L.pdf

Canoeyawl
03-16-2010, 09:58 AM
Use an upside down wine bottle for the bottom bearing. It will work like a jeweled watch...