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Dave Gray
03-14-2010, 09:33 PM
I am seriously thinking about one of these. While a Leigh or an Omnijig would be nice I can't see spending the $500 or more for these jigs. The 4212 is on sale for $169 with a $20 rebate, making it quite attractive.

Any one else use the 4200 series?

goodbasil
03-15-2010, 02:09 AM
I've got the 18" model, I can't remember the Model #. I've never used it. So this reply isn't of much use to you.

That deal you mention sounds good.

Balanda
03-15-2010, 05:33 AM
If its of any use to you. I can add that I have a Festo vs500 GE. The 20 inch span has proved really handy. A lot simpler with less features than the model you are considering. I used mine commercially for a few years. Cutting Jarrah, I used to go through the 1/4 dovetail bits very quickly. Not blunting but work hardening on the shaft and shearing off. Does a quick neat job though.

Regards

David G
03-15-2010, 10:31 AM
Dave,

I've got one of the P/C jigs 24". I don't use it a lot, but whenever I need a batch of dovetailed drawer boxes, it works beautifully. I used to have a Leigh, which I got because of the versatility. What I found was that I used it seldom enough, and it was so complex to set up, that it just wasn't worth the time invested in re-learning the non-intuitive setup procedure each time.

The P/C is more limited - half blind dovetails only - but is a snap to set up, and utterly reliable and rugged.

Dave Gray
03-15-2010, 04:08 PM
Thanks for the replies. This is a 12" jig, which should be more than adequate for my purposes. The 4210 does half-blind dovetails, while the 4212 has an additional template for full dovetails. Then there is the 4216 which has another template for finger joints and small half blinds.

I am doing so home furniture and don't think doing half blind dovetails by hand will be too amusing. Character building, yes, amusing, no!

cjp1063
03-15-2010, 09:43 PM
You'd be really good at it after you got done though...It would stop being fun about 10 minutes in.

Paul Girouard
03-15-2010, 11:29 PM
Rocklers looks pretty good


Rockler's Complete Dovetail Jig with FREE Dust Collector ($43.99 value) Limited Time Only! (http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=17367)

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$119.99KT


I looked at this jig in the store , IIRC it's a bit cheaper and seemed as good , if not better than the PC one they had on display.

Now thats looks better I've never used it.

Good luck , give us a review if you spring for one.

JimConlin
03-15-2010, 11:34 PM
I'm always amazed at Norm Abrams and such tools as this. In the video, there'll be 20 seconds of Norm bravely cutting the parts and they never say that his shop bitch has spent half an hour setting up the cut.

Paul Girouard
03-15-2010, 11:50 PM
I'm always amazed at Norm Abrams and such tools as this. In the video, there'll be 20 seconds of Norm bravely cutting the parts and they never say that his shop bitch has spent half an hour setting up the cut.



Best reports say Norm did all the work, he'd have help on occasions to move a piece for a better camera angle , but the basic work was all Norm, or so "they" say.

Believe what you want, but it would be nice to have some facts or even some "collaborating first hand storeys" , you got any of those? Or just your gut?

Reardon
03-25-2010, 02:01 PM
http://www.stots.com/product/dttm.htm

Here's a dovetail jig-making jig. I found one of these in a box of tools that I bought at a garage sale. I was able to find instructions for it online, and made my own jig. It's simple, and there is no limit to the length of the jig you can make. Very versatile. You could probably make a 24" jig in less time than it would take to assemble a Leigh Jig.

The downside is that the tails aren't adjustable. If you want custom spacing, it can only be achieved by skipping some of the slots.

Keith Wilson
03-25-2010, 03:12 PM
That Stots jig is clever; very little hardware for what seems to be pretty decent results.

I have the Rockler jig; it's functionally almost identical to the PC model - a bit more lightly built, plastic templates instead of aluminum. There are several other manufacturers who make a similar jig. It works OK. It takes a while to set up and adjust the router bit depth to get the fit right; lots of test cuts. Once it's set up you can cut dovetails all day. Of course, I'm usually not making more than eight or ten, so it's not terribly efficient. I'm not thrilled, but it does what it's supposed to do.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BGv6cnS5L.jpg

http://www.extremehowto.com/xh//hotprod_images//Rockler%20Dovetail%20Jig%20Set.jpg

goodbasil
03-25-2010, 03:53 PM
A review;
http://woodworking.about.com/od/dovetailjigs/gr/PorterCable4212.htm