Brightsides paint question

[ccx2]

I cant find any info on how dangerous this stuff would be if used indoors in a closed garage. I know a lot of you guys have used it, would a respirator be needed? Thanks

[boattruck]

CC, It is a good idea to supply yourself with a good respirator ( I like and use 3M if you can find them) for painting in enclosed areas, I'm assuming it'll be closed to try and keep the tempature up? More than the fumes in the garage, I'd worry about the fumes spreading through the rest of the house, if it is attached. Somehow a rude smell for an hour or so is bad, but for the wife and kids all night, it is unacceptable...Cheers,BT

[Todd Bradshaw]

"For the most part I have not found brightsides to be any more odourous than any other oil based enamel."

Likewise. It seems pretty typical to other oil-based paint. You do need to remember though, that the solvent fumes coming out of it would be flamable - so a concentration near a heating unit or pilot light could be a hazard.

[Lew Barrett]

I agree with what "we" all said. 333 (the Brightsides thinner) is not as hot or volatile as some of the others but if you close yourself up in a nice tight garage and paint away you are going to have a nose full after an hour or two.

[Todd D]

It all depends on how big an area you are painting. I paint models with it all the time and don't find it objectionable for less than a square foot or so. However, if you are doing a bigger job you will want a respirator with an organic vapor cartridge. The solvents that come off are mostly heavier than air, so leave the garage door open a few inches at the bottom and crack a window. The stuff dries pretty quickly at 60F or higher. I would open the garage for a few minutes after after the paint is tack free. Getting the solvents out of the garage will also help the paint to dry more quickly.

[wizbang 13]

The 3m charcoal dustmask, the one that looks like it is "dirty" when new,works good for odors. I carry a few in the glovebox on cross country road trips.

[P.L.Lenihan]

Crack open your garage door just abit and throw a fan there if you are really concerned, otherwise like has already been stated, it is a rather benign paint. If you are using the Brightside"with Teflon added",be scrupulous with your surface prep,wipe down and the air environment.Last boat I did ended up with fish-eyes...had to sand the whole bugger back down and ensure the delivery truck wasn't by the garage idling its diesel engine this time around......

Good luck!



Cheers!

Peter

[George Ray]

I tend to be 'over the top' about respiratory safety but I think of Brightside as an almost old fashioned oil based paint with some hi-tech solids added and I tend to not be to concerned about the vapors as long as there is a minimal attempt at ventilation.
This is NOT based on any knowledge of the chemistry involved or any study of relevant OSHA papers or MSDS. I would like to hear more tech-talk on the topic.

[ccx2]

OK ,Thanks to all. I too dont think that if all ive put in that stayed and all ive drank and run through didnt kill me whats a little fume gonna do , but maybe ill wear a respirator to be on the safe side since ill be working alone.:)

[Mike Vogdes]

If you use a fan be extra carefull not to stir up dust. I always sprinkle some water on the floor to keep the dust down.

[gazzer]

I recommend reviewing the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS). It seems that there are different formulations for each color. My quick scan of a couple indicate that the primary hazard is petroleum-base solvents (e.g. Stoddard solvent, xylene). I would try to use as much ventilation as you can muster, but also wear a respirator with OV cartridges. Get yourself one with an elastomeric facepiece with replaceable cartridges. They fit much better than the disposable ones.

Good luck

-G

[ikaria317]

used Brightside, and did the prep, and wipe down with 333 before primer, and after used a tack rag. waited three days to paint my first coat of Brightside, and after only about 15 min paint started to orange peel and crack. All ideas Why? I would hate to have to go back and sand down to base.

[ikaria317]

seems prep and temp need to be perfict, and yes it has a strong smell. always use a resperator, and crack the garage door. Air should circulate.

[TimH]

After being in the room for several 40 footers being shot with Imron, Brightsides is like an air freshner.

[ccx2]

used Brightside, and did the prep, and wipe down with 333 before primer, and after used a tack rag. waited three days to paint my first coat of Brightside, and after only about 15 min paint started to orange peel and crack. All ideas Why? I would hate to have to go back and sand down to base.
Ikaria, Brushing liquid 333 is the correct thinning solvent for Brightsides but not for the recommended primer which is Interlux Epoxy Primekote and it is thinned with solvent 2333n. You say you wiped down with 333 before "primer" and that would be the wrong solvent to wipe down with probably with the type of primer you used. 333 will not thin Primekote because i tried cleaning a brush with it that i used for Primekote and it wouldnt disolve it at all. I hope you didnt get far on your paint job , you probably need to sand it off if you can and start over,sorry, and good luck.