Arch Davis's Penobscot 17

[JC 72]

Hi all,
I'm new to the forum and have been looking for boat plans for a while. I called Mr. Davis and purchased his study plans for the Penobscot 14 and 17. I also purchased his video on the 14. I've seen some lovely Penobscot 14s here. Has anyone out there built a 17? If so could they share pics or experiences? The last issue of WB had a small photo of a 17 under sail, but no contact info on the builder. Mr Davis's discription sheet on the 17 seems to show photos of his scale model, and not the fullsize craft.

[Venchka]

Somebody had one at the 2004 Small Boat gathering at the Maritime Museum in St. Michaels, MD. Here you go:

http://www.geocities.com/pvanderwaart/CBMM0010.JPG

That boat has the schooner rig, or close to it, shown on the left here:

http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisdesign/penob17sails.gif

Here's a lead:

Penobscot 17 Builder (http://boatbuilding.okbayou.com/)

Good luck.

ps: I know, it's not a double-ender. Nice boat anyway.

PPS: Hey folks, learn how to use GOOGLE! There's a whole world of information on just about anything out there. GOOGLE knows!

A search of Arch Davis Penobscot 17 returned 677 hits! :D

www.google.com (http://www.google.com)

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[ 01-27-2005, 10:14 AM: Message edited by: Venchka ]

[Alan Peck]

Vencha: My daughter now lives in Delaware. will be visiting sometime in the summer.

I think the St. Michaels Maritime Museum is around 125 miles from her house.

Is a trip to the Museum worth making?

Thanks

[Venchka]

I'm the wrong person to ask. If you can go the weekend of the Small Boat shindig, it seems like a good thing to do.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[Garrett Lowell]

I will state that the trip is worth making. St. Michaels alone is worth the trip, but add in the Museum and it's an easy decision to make.

[JC 72]

Thanks for the pic and link Wayne. Unfortunatly for Arch there appears to be a very popular canoe out there called Penobscot 17, most of my Google searches seem to be about the wrong boat,( made of the wrong stuff), besides surfing Google, while entertaining, can't be as enjoyable as this forum. I like double enders too. I'm getting Iain's catalog as well before I commit.You built a gunning dory didn't you?

[Venchka]

I found the Old Canoe hits annoying too so I added Arch Davis in front of Penobscot 17. Worked like a charm.

Me? I haven't built anything yet. I had a Caledonia yawl built with a few things changed to suit me.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[JC 72]

Thanks for the tip Wayne.Thats right I've seen pics of you with your yawl, she a beauty. I'm really tempted to try one as my first project. I've been reading Iain's clinker plywood construction book. Although Arch's support service is a really strong selling point along with pretty boats designs. So far thats the only pic of a 17 I've seen afloat save for the tiny shot in WB. I'm like ships boats of the 19th and 18th century so his designs struck a chord, as did Paul Gartside's "Skylark", and Iain Oughtred's "Tammie Norrie". I have three children, and the two boys will want to crew for sure. Your mention of the yawl's carrying capabilty is a point of consideration.
John

[Venchka]

Numerous Caledonia yawls have been built by first timers. She's a big boat no doubt about it. To date, we've had 3 adults and 2 wee girls aboard and there's plenty of elbow room for everyone.

If you like Tammie Norrie, write to Iain and ask him about his new bigger version named "SKUA". Supposed to be in the 16'-17' range.

IAIN OUGHTRED
Struan Cottage
Bearnisdale
Isle of Skye
Scotland IV51 9NS
01470 532 732

Good luck!

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[PVanderwaart]

And, of course,

http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisdesign/davis_penobscot17.html

[Jamaica Mike]

Originally posted by Alan Peck:
...Is a trip to the Museum worth making?
Oh yeah! I've been there twice. I am a fan of (old) small boats and they have some great original boats there. Well worth the trip if you are going anywhere near there...

JM

[JC 72]

Hey Wayne thanks for the "SKUA" reminder. I thought I had read that Iain was coming out with something alittle bigger along the lines of "TAMMIE NORRIE".I sent off to Scotland for his catalog last week. So I am down to a decission between the Penobscot17, Skua, or a C. Yawl.I'm also liking the Newfoundland Trap Skiff from Duck Trap, but it looks like a faily complex boat for a first try. I also need to be able to get her out the door when completed, and by that I mean carried. If I build in the driveway at home instead of a shop an hour distant that won't be a limitation though.

[Venchka]

Originally posted by JC 72:
... So I am down to a decission between the Penobscot17, Skua, or a C. Yawl.Hmmmmmm....everyone knows where my prejuduce lies given your short list. Once in awhile I think, "That's a big boat, Paw-Paw." This thought usually lasts about half a nano-second. Then I remember having myself, my wife, my daughter & two granddaughters in the boat and everyone had ample places to sit, climb, roam or whatever it is that 2 & 7 year old kids do. The C.Y. is a big boat, no doubt about it. Is it too big? Not really.

The other big difference is form stability. The long skinny boats are going to heel easier than the C.Y. That's not a problem, really, just different. I must say that it feels nice to be on a boat where you can jump up on the seats and walk around the perimeter without feeling like you might go swimming.

You can carry any of the boats on your short list. Just get more bodies to carry the C.Y. tongue.gif Why not put casters on the strongback so you don't have to carry the boat so far?

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[w_cralle]

bump.
This is the other boat I want to build.
I will probably start this one first.

[Venchka]

Good grief! You must be greedy! You want two nice boats? The P-17 would make a nice tender for the TS-24. ;)

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[Captain Pre-Capsize]

Originally posted by Venchka:
If you like Tammie Norrie, write to Iain and ask him about his new bigger version named "SKUA". Supposed to be in the 16'-17' range.Well I did just that two months ago and haven't heard back from the Master yet. I have corresponded with him before and he is usually quite prompt. Delay action until finished? Time will tell...

[Venchka]

Aye, Cap'n. I've been waiting a little longer for a reply to a letter myself.

Here's what I do know, dated 3/19/05:


Spoke with IO yesterday on Skua which currently has the status of a good idea - ie the plan is neither drawn, priced nor available.

WS Mk2 almost certainly won't have been built yet - the plan is only 6 months old. Ther will be a bill of materials with the plan, and there is a suggested hardware list on the website. As for the study plan - another good idea which I have mentoned to IO a number of times - why not add your voice to the chorus?

Hope this helps

Moray
Things move at glacial speed in the world of small boat design and fabrication it seems.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D