Oughtred's Whilly Boat - outboard well

[gwen]

Anyone any experience with a small double ender and the addition of the outboard well??
I realize it's a kind of against 'sailing code', but ......... ;)
Wondering how much it affects sailing performance etc....
Cheers!

[Venchka]

Wander over to the Caledonia yawl CRAZYBIRD site. GOOGLE can find it. Search the archives and then ask Dale Davenport how he feels about his boat with a well.

I am so easy. :D

Caledonia yawl forum (http://www.mavc2002.com/cyforum/index.php)

Having said that, is there room in a Whilly boat for a well? That's a small boat. Have the outboard and boat together, measure 3 times, be sure before you cut. Also, look at how much room you will have left after the well goes in.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[ 05-28-2005, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: Venchka ]

[L.W. Baxter]

gwen,

I launched a 17' Dion Swampscott dory last spring. It has a transom, but it is double ended on the waterline, and the transom has too much rake for hanging a motor.

So I built a motor well and plug, like so:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p6d8116f71554c51db1327b459949f2a1/f8e1c270.jpg

The well is not long enough for the motor to kick up, but a small motor is easily removed if need be.

I keep the plug in when sailing, and just use oars for auxillary power. When I go fishing, the plug comes out, and the motor goes in.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/pd6f2b65a747ac7c7008f82d24d4420a9/f8def25d.jpg

Mine is a 5 hp nissan 4-stroke. It has more power than I need, but I like it anyway. A Whilly boat could do just fine with a 3.5 horse with internal tank.

At the outside bottom of the well, I fit a boot of gasket rubber, with a slot for the motor to pass through. This helps to keep water from slopping up in the well. I haven't had any trouble with water coming in through the well, even in some fairly steep waves.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p95c249a551a0f2acfe74dbe149b95585/f8def2d3.jpg

Some will say that a motor has no place on a small sailboat, but in my case, it has made the boat just that much more versatile. The idea is to build it and use it, after all, and if a motor will add to your enjoyment, I say, go for it.

[Bill Childs]

I've found the rubber boot trick to be very helpful in reducing resistance in these small motor wells. Have used inner tube rubber with a slot. Also you can rig the little OB up on a verticle sliding gizmo - pull it up and lock it in place out of the water with a pin.

Bill Childs
Composer and Arranger of Appalachian Strip Mall Funk Tunes and Dealer of Supa' Righteous Pimpin' Hats

[Venchka]

Originally posted by L.W. Baxter:


Mine is a 5 hp nissan 4-stroke. It has more power than I need, but I like it anyway. A Whilly boat could do just fine with a 3.5 horse with internal tank.


Originally posted by Bill Childs:
... Also you can rig the little OB up on a verticle sliding gizmo - pull it up and lock it in place out of the water with a pin.

Bill Childs
Composer and Arranger of Appalachian Strip Mall Funk Tunes and Dealer of Supa' Righteous Pimpin' HatsWHOA! First of all, I figure motors belong in boats. I wouldn't be caught without one.

L.W., your well is a work of functional art. A perfect solution to the problem. In a Whilly boat, your well would be somewhere forward of the aft end of the centercase trunk. I seem to recall seeing a well indicated on the Whilly boat plans. Iain's catalog lists a well as an option. It's probably located on the port side at or behind the aft thwart with a hole cut in the garboard. I again caution you to make sure the motor fits the well and you have room left in the boat to be comfortable. Another caution: the motor will not tilt up in the well. If you frequent shallows, the motor will have to be lifted out of the well and placed in the boat somewhere. Bill's idea might work on a fishing skiff but I reckon the motor would foul the tiller, boom and or mainsheet in a little sailboat. The boat's balance would be upset as well.

A trolling motor will push a Whilly boat just fine. Alas, there isn't room for a battery bank. I used a 1 1/2hp Johnson on a 15' keel boat and now use a 2hp Spirit on my 1,300 pound Caledonia yawl. If you can find one, a used 1 1/2hp motor will be more than enough on a Whilly boat. Somebody will come along shortly and tout the 2hp Honda. It's more than you need, heavy and expensive, but it will work.

Here is the boat...

http://www.duckflatwoodenboats.com/designers/oughtred/whillyboat3.jpg

Not a whole lot of room.

Wayne
In the Swamp.

[ 05-28-2005, 07:44 PM: Message edited by: Venchka ]

[Meerkat]

The o/b well on a Whillyboat is not forward of the aft end of the c/b case. :rolleyes:

[gwen]

Yeah, I ask about the motor well simply because it would make the boat more versatile.....lots of tidal current in quite shallow water. Therefore it would be nice to get her through all that to go to the good sailing spots more quickly....

Thanks for all the pics and good info........

[Venchka]

Originally posted by Meerkat:
The o/b well on a Whillyboat is not forward of the aft end of the c/b case. :rolleyes: Pay attention. I said the well in the dory would end up too far forward in the Whilly boat. Next, I said the Whilly boat well was PROBABLY (I don't have the plans) at or behind the aft thwart, port side, like all of Iain's double enders.

Must be the drugs.

This is a case for making a cardboard or cheap ply mock up of the well. With the motor of choice and the mock up of the well, figure out how much room is left, how big a hole to cut in the garboard, where to put the motor when it is not in the well, etc., etc. All of those questions/problems pointed me to a larger boat.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[ 05-29-2005, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: Venchka ]

[shamus]

Gwen, I've found the whillyboat is quite a good sailer in shallows without the board down, or with just a little down (tilting version). I haven't regretted not putting the outboard well in mine. Like Wayne I thought trolling motor would do the job, but haven't tried one yet.