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Nicholas Scheuer
02-09-2010, 08:58 AM
being BELITTLED by Liberals"!

I CANNOT FRIGGING BELIEVE IT! Conservatives like him practically INVENTED THE GAME, fercryinoutloud! It was Karl Rove" stock-in-trade!

Then there is the latest from Sarah Palin, "How's that changy, hope thingie workin' out fer'ya?" Hot? I'd like to plant a fist right smack in those fat Botox lips!

Moby Nick

LeeG
02-09-2010, 09:03 AM
he's such a spokesman for the common neocon.

TomF
02-09-2010, 10:18 AM
My guess is she'd kick your butt.:DAnd here I thought you'd say she'd "hit it."

TimH
02-09-2010, 10:25 AM
We cannot let these reps continiue to bring the country down. There is too much at stake.

Sam F
02-09-2010, 10:32 AM
Lemme guess... next we'll hear how people are so dumb they won't vote for their own benefit - the "What's wrong with Kansas" thesis.

Pugwash
02-09-2010, 11:35 AM
My guess is she'd kick your butt.:D

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/264042/february-08-2010/sarah-palin-uses-a-hand-o-prompter

I doubt it....

:)

Nicholas Scheuer
02-09-2010, 01:37 PM
So Donn, how did you vote in the Palin poll above?

Never mind, we can answer that ourselves.

Moby Nick

LeeG
02-09-2010, 01:53 PM
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/264042/february-08-2010/sarah-palin-uses-a-hand-o-prompter

I doubt it....

:)

that was funny

Art Read
02-11-2010, 01:29 PM
Elitist Theories Show Lack of Common Sense
By Victor Davis Hanson

What's behind the Tea Party protests, low approval ratings for Congress, distrust of the media and unease with experts in the Obama administration?

In short, a growing anger at the sermonizing and condescension by many of America's elites.

We see this specifically, for example, in the debate over global warming, which a year ago was accepted as gospel.

The high profile of prestigious scientists, former public officials like Al Gore and Van Jones, and the Obama administration all made impending cap-and-trade legislation seem likely. Skeptics were derided as "deniers" and virtual know-nothings.

But then the assertion of manmade climate change met a perfect storm.

First, several high academic priests of global warming were discredited. Leaked e-mails at East Anglia University in the United Kingdom revealed doctored evidence, personal vendettas and cover-ups among scientists.

More recently, the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change admitted it had relied on faulty information, leading it to make inflated claims on impending manmade warming disasters involving Himalayan glaciers.

These exposes dovetailed with a series of unconnected events that further undermined the climate-change diktat.

Many of the most prominent green advocates either seemed hypocritical or downright crazy. Al Gore, for example, has earned much of his new fortune from his supposedly disinterested public service to the green cause, and yet habitually leaves a carbon footprint like few others on the planet.

The president's own "green jobs" official, Van Jones, it was revealed, had signed a "truther" petition stating that the U.S. government had planned 9/11. His credibility shot, Jones had to resign.

Then there was the uncooperative weather itself. Environmental grandees jetted into frigid Copenhagen to discuss planet warming. Meanwhile, back in the U.S., portions of a very cold East Coast have been blanketed with unprecedented snowfall levels - at a time when the public is supposed to be concerned that temperatures are unseasonably warming.

Other conventional wisdom from supposed experts has also been questioned. Take the model of the European Union.

After the September 2008 American financial panic, European diplomats and intellectuals lectured Americans on the evils of unfettered capitalism and the superiority of their statist model. The strong euro and steady expansion of the EU had convinced many that their soft socialism was the only way of the future.

But European prosperity was, in fact, heavily subsidized by decades of free protection by the U.S. military. Meanwhile, aristocratic bureaucrats in Brussels were increasingly not accountable to their skeptical continental constituents - and seemed terrified of popular referenda from member states on the EU constitution.

And now? Several EU nations like Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal face financial implosions - brought on by unsustainable government spending, out-of-control pensions and endemic tax cheating. The euro is falling fast. Bondholders of European debt are jittery. Now, northwestern countries like Germany and France - despite their own budget problems - may have to bailout Greece.

Yet, in 2009, the American binge of massive spending and borrowing, expansion of government, and new proposed taxes followed the model of the supposedly superior European system. But for all the massive new debt, unemployment here remains high and the economy still sluggish.

The Obama administration came into office also convinced of another theory popular among many intellectuals, lawyers and members of the media - that the so-called "war on terror" had degenerated into a Bush administration overreaction to 9/11. Obama's anti-terrorism czar, John Brennan, lambasted the past anti-terrorism nomenclature and the methods of the very administration he used to work for.

President Obama promised to close Guantanamo Bay. Rendition, military tribunals and Predator drone attacks at one time or another were caricatured as unnecessary or counterproductive. Even the name "war on terror" was dropped for kindler, gentler euphemisms.

"Outreach" and "reset" with the Islamic world became instead the talking points. Highly educated experts had to explain to those of us who are less sophisticated that the real dangers were Guantanamo Bay and the waterboarding of a few terrorist detainees rather than the need to detain and interrogate actual terrorists.

And now? After the mass murdering at Fort Hood, the Christmas Day bombing plot, the popular outrage over offering a civilian trial in New York to the architect of 9/11, and the snubbing of American outreach by a soon-to-be-nuclear Iran, there's less reason than ever to accept a therapeutic approach to dealing with radical Islamic terrorism.

There is an unfocused but growing anger in the country -- and it should come as no surprise. Nobody likes to be lectured by those claiming superior wisdom but often lacking common sense about everything from out-of-control spending and predicting the weather to dealing with enemies who are trying to kill us all.

john l
02-11-2010, 01:34 PM
first they own jesus. now they own the average man. what the hell= they own everything else. next thing ya know -we'll all be wearing leisure suits too!

paladin
02-11-2010, 03:07 PM
and to think we taught the white man to plant corn so he wouldn't starve to death.....bad, bad, move......

LeeG
02-11-2010, 03:29 PM
Once more, liberals belittling stupid people. It's so condescending.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R9UfIUJB1Y&feature=player_embedded

Phillip Allen
02-11-2010, 03:34 PM
more football politics

Kaa
02-11-2010, 03:37 PM
I'd like to plant a fist right smack in those fat Botox lips!

Your favorite kind of argument, eh? :D

Kaa

Nicholas Scheuer
02-11-2010, 04:55 PM
Like Jane Fonda in the 1960's, she just elicits a rage in a lot of folks.

You like Sarah? Hey, I hope she stanys right in the limelight, because ultimately that is good for Liberals.

Moby Nick

Phillip Allen
02-11-2010, 05:02 PM
Like Jane Fonda in the 1960's, she just elicits a rage in a lot of folks.

You like Sarah? Hey, I hope she stanys right in the limelight, because ultimately that is good for Liberals.

Moby Nick

Fonda is good for liberals...she puts their motives in perspective

Tom Montgomery
02-11-2010, 05:05 PM
Jane Fonda does not speak for this liberal and never has.

"Football politics" you say? Take a look in the mirror.

LeeG
02-11-2010, 05:07 PM
Fonda is good for liberals...she puts their motives in perspective

Fonda was good in Barbarella

Captain Blight
02-11-2010, 05:14 PM
Don't want us to think you're *just* a bunch of gap-toothed gritsucking hicks? Don't worry, I don't. I also think the Republicans are hyperviolent warmongers; knuckle-dragging wifebeaters; credulous theocrats; and self-congratulatory robber barons. I've porbably left a few out, but in the name of "tolerance" I've included them in my heart.

By the way, when you-all go off on your little rants about "elites," are you including the businessmen who went to the same schools as the Libruls, and now have 90+% of the nation's wealth all tied up? Or are they somehow not "elites" because they work in the money industry?

Phillip Allen
02-11-2010, 05:15 PM
Jane Fonda does not speak for this liberal and never has.

"Football politics" you say? Take a look in the mirror.

yes, football politics I say...

Phillip Allen
02-11-2010, 05:16 PM
Don't want us to think you're *just* a bunch of gap-toothed gritsucking hicks? Don't worry, I don't. I also think the Republicans are hyperviolent warmongers; knuckle-dragging wifebeaters; credulous theocrats; and self-congratulatory robber barons. I've porbably left a few out, but in the name of "tolerance" I've included them in my heart.

By the way, when you-all go off on your little rants about "elites," are you including the businessmen who went to the same schools as the Libruls, and now have 90+% of the nation's wealth all tied up? Or are they somehow not "elites" because they work in the money industry?

I don't know about others but I did not exclued conservatives...

Art Read
02-11-2010, 05:38 PM
"Once more, liberals belittling stupid people. It's so condescending.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R9Uf...layer_embedded"

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And the NEXT segment...

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Bill Nye 'The Science Guy': Denying Climate Change 'Unpatriotic,' 'Inappropriate'
By Jeff Poor
Thu, 02/11/2010 - 07:02 ET

Challenging someone's patriotism is a pretty hefty charge to level in the political arena, based on the response when Barack Obama's patriotism was challenged during the 2008 election cycle.

However, there seems to be a different set of rules when it comes to questioning the authenticity of the manmade global warming argument in the wake of record-setting snowfall in the Mid-Atlantic. And this different standard applied to Bill Nye "The Science Guy," who appeared on MSNBC's Feb. 10 "Rachel Maddow Show" and aired his disapproval of manmade climate change skeptics and labeled them "unpatriotic."

"[T]here's more energy in the atmosphere and this is stirring things up," Nye said. "If you want to get serious about it, these guys claiming that the snow in Washington disproves climate change are almost unpatriotic. It's really, they're denying science. So they're very happy to have the weather forecast be accurate within a few hours, but they're displeased or un-enchanted by predictions of the world getting warmer. It's really, it shakes me up."


According to Nye, it's easier to sell the theory of anthropogenic global warming to younger generations since "older people" have a harder time with the concept. He agreed with the show's host Rachel Maddow, who likened the snowfall in Washington, D.C. to a full-court one-handed buzzer-beating basketball shot earlier in her program.

"Well, my thinking is, I thought about this a lot as an educator, spent a lot of time with a lot of people," Nye said. "It's mostly generational, it seems to be. This is anecdotal for me. Older people just have a much harder time grasping the idea that you have many billions of people on the planet with a very, very thin atmosphere - you're able to affect its climate. Younger people are able to sort of embrace it, understand the evidence and move forward. Just as you say, making a full-court one-armed shot happens now and then. There are snowstorms in Washington, D.C., now and then."

Nye explained that he subscribed to the idea that it was warmer ocean temperatures causing this weather by "putting more energy in the atmosphere."

"Well, the world, overall -- the world's getting warmer," Nye said. "If you like - these phenomenon, by the way, this week, are just generally a result of El Niņo, where the Pacific Ocean surface gets a little warmer and this affects the weather in North America like crazy and this is very well-documented, and you can go to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Web sites and you can look at this data. The sea surface is warmer, putting more energy in the atmosphere, and making things more turbulent."

But Nye, without a single mention of the ClimateGate scandal, which showed that Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) scientists manipulated data and conspired to destroy information to further the cause of global warming alarmism, cited the IPCC's Nobel Prize as a reason to believe that theory.

"The main thing is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change got a Nobel Prize," Nye said. "They got a scientific prize for making a discovery. They didn't get a minor award. This is a big deal. They discovered climate change, through all kinds of evidence, and it's something we should all be very, very concerned about."

And Nye then returned to his earlier point, questioning the patriotism of global warming skeptics, calling their questioning of the theory inappropriate and suggested it was bad for what made the United States "a technological leader."

"This thing, of denying science - you know, science has done so much to make this country what it is, a technological leader," Nye said. "It's improved the quality of life for so many people, here and around the world. To deny what scientists or scientific evidence is showing, is inappropriate. And as I said earlier, to me, when I get wound up, it's unpatriotic."

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I wonder if he made a paper mache volcano too?

Phillip Allen
02-11-2010, 05:51 PM
when Norman says he's on the fence about something I equate it to his own comentary about emails that say "pass it on"

Phillip Allen
02-11-2010, 05:52 PM
Krauthammer is perfectly correct. We are fed up. We're fed up with a bunch of Republican scumbags telling us they want to help the country, when it's clear they just want to help themselves. Help themselves to the Treasury, and a handful of the Constitution for their toilet paper.

You scumbags better hope the revolution is bloodless.

how many millionares on the dem side of the aisle?

LeeG
02-11-2010, 05:52 PM
Art, do you have something you'd like to say?

Tom Montgomery
02-11-2010, 05:56 PM
"Almost unpatriotic." The horror!

Is that like almost stupid? Or almost honest? Or almost a virgin?

ROTFLMAO!

If the shoe fits, wear it.

Captain Blight
02-11-2010, 06:22 PM
I think "unpatriotic," almost or otherwise, is taking things a bit far. On the other hand, placing the security of the citizens in low-lying and coastal areas potentially at risk rather than do the work, sift through the data, and reach their own conclusion because it's a lot of work is something, maybe even unpatriotic. It's definitely lazy.

pipefitter
02-11-2010, 07:23 PM
So, how many patriotic liberals are setting a real example by leading the way with examples of their own? It's certainly not apparent on our interstate systems, neighborhoods or anywhere else you care to look as far as energy consumption is concerned. You would think that blue states, for example, would be showing a lot less energy usage via their heartfelt concerns for the environment, global energy market issues and everything else they manage to point fault at the right for. Being that the left has claimed the great and informed/intellectual majority voter base, who now suddenly grew intelligently green on the heels of one of their champions Al Gore, you would think there would be traffic jams created by the blue hyper-milers, for surely they are the majority everywhere, including our interstate systems and the power grid in general.
Instead, they will keep using their share while waiting to be punished into conservation. With such a unanimously green and concerned liberal collective, we should be seeing some real conservation numbers by now.

But we're not. You know why? Because they are happy just griping about everything that masks their own foolish comfort levels that are as exploitive as anyone else. They will keep on harping until it gets taken away from everybody. Why wait? If the health of the planet is your ultimate and heartfelt concern, you liberals can make a real difference today. You're not supposed to be waiting on the right to save the planet. You can almost do it all by yourselves. You're the majority. Show the oil and coal industries how it's done.

Surely you aren't waiting for your champion to show you the way.

Captain Blight
02-11-2010, 08:35 PM
i do. I go with a local CSA for my summertime vegetables, because local and organic is not only healthier, it's also less consumptive of energy. I bicycle through the Minnesota winters, and last year burned not quite 100 gallons of gas. The coffee I drink is fair-trade and organic, and delivered from the roaster by bicycle. I took my bedroom completely off the grid, and am using rechargable batteries in my alarm clock. Next one's gonna be the bathroom, since I found out the hot water is heated by natural gas, not electricity. So I do, in fact, walk the walk, and can confidently say that the only reason to not live a little smaller is self-indulgence. There are no hyper-miler traffic jams because one of the core tenets of hyper-miling is to avoid traffic.