goods bronze rowlocks in melbourne, australia

[peterAustralia]

hi all

I like to row and would like to upgrade my el-cheapo galvanised rowlocks upto a better set of cast bronze rowlocks (polished too)

I went to the 2 main chandlers in elizabeth st melbourne, they say they have none is stock, one said they could order in some but at about $130 a pair (not even sure if this includes sockets)

I have seen some on ebay, such as Davey,

I have heard Wilcox Critendon went out of business.

I would prefer the horn type with a round section, so that the edge of the metal does not rub against my leather, as it does on my cheaper set. By round I mean that the cross-section of the horn would be oval, as opposed to being rectangular on a set that is rolled from flat metal and then welded on.

If I have to pay $130 for a good set I am prepared to pay it.

which is good one to get?

thanks in advance

I am looking at rowing in port phillip bay
I am looking at a shank diameter of 0.5 inches
I am looking at a max width of inside of the horns at roughly 2.5 inches


n peter evans

[TimH]

I like my Wilcox Crittendons. Ebay?

[The Bigfella]

Mike ( logon here is Wooden Boat Fittings ) is the guy to ask. PM him.

[Green Ginger]

Ross Lillistone has Bronze Rowlocks check out the shop section on his website http://www.baysidewoodenboats.com.au/

[Thorne]

Silicon Bronze is reasonably soft stuff, so you can easily sand or file off any sharp edges, then polish with a fine wire wheel and fine sandpaper.

I'm sure you'll be able to source some locally. And you may need to replace your leathers with better quality stuff, or increase the thickness of same -- but wait until you get your new rowlocks.

[peterAustralia]

hi

thanks for the replies, much appreciated

looking at Baysidewoodenboats shop it shows 2 types, the normal type, also the drop down type. The second ones look good in that they appear to have an oval cross-section, thus less rub on the leathers. The first set seems to have a small radius between flat section where leathers sit and the side of rowlock, thus no real improvement on the ones I have already.

The second type (the ones on the right) are polished and thus look better (this is important to me), plus seem to have an oval cross section (less wear on leathers)

The price is fine.

Serious question, I have small outriggers on my dory, to add a few inches of rowing beam, logic suggests there is no reason why I cant have this pivoting type, pivot outwards if I want them to (mounted on outside as opposed to inside), apart from the fact it looks a fraction odd, from a practical point of view should be fine.

Ross Lillistone has some very good boat plans, so maybe he sources good rowlocks too.

aside, I checked on ebay, could not really find anything nice.

the second set looks good, think i will go with that.

I will make some minor changes to my outriggers, to fit these new rowlocks, an additional change will be to angle the rowlocks outwards 10 or 15 degrees or so. Looking at Peter Culler's book, he seems to do that.

is all good as they say. thanks

n peter evans

[Duncan Gibbs]

Shaw and Tenney got a very good review in the Jan/Feb WB (#212).

They're on the web and I'm sure the postage wouldn't be major.

[Thorne]

Peter - I know you've gone your own way on this boat, as I've been following it since you started asking about designs several years ago. But surely a Bank dory should have sufficient beam for gunwale-mounted oarlocks?

What is the beam of the boat, and what is it between your current outriggers? Unless you are using 10' oars, I suspect that either gunwale-mounted or your current outriggers should be plenty of width for rowing.

As for making new outriggers, the bent ply ones shown in this thread are quite inexpensive, look nice, and are removable - the latter very important for coming alongside other boats, docks, etc.
http://www.woodenboat.com/forum//showthread.php?t=109522

[peterAustralia]

hello

I was thinking of adding the new rowlocks to my present outriggers, not build a new set of outriggers. Another small change I can do when I make this adjustment is have the outriggers incline outwards 10 degrees or so. In all it should be a small simple job. My oars are about 7ft 10". I will narrow one set down for high wind conditions, and keep the other pair as is, for low wind conditions.

[bloggs68]

Peter, if Ross can't help you out we are a Davey agent in Australia. Send me a pm if no luck with Ross. Davey also make a nice pattern in gal as well as gunmetal ( heaps cheaper too!)

regards,

AD

[skuthorp]

Peter, I was given a set of old outriggers with self-feathering rowlocks from the junk pile at the back of a rowing club. Maybe an offer of a small amount will get a result?

[PeterSibley]

hi all

I like to row and would like to upgrade my el-cheapo galvanised rowlocks upto a better set of cast bronze rowlocks (polished too)

I went to the 2 main chandlers in elizabeth st melbourne, they say they have none is stock, one said they could order in some but at about $130 a pair (not even sure if this includes sockets)

I have seen some on ebay, such as Davey,

I have heard Wilcox Critendon went out of business.

I would prefer the horn type with a round section, so that the edge of the metal does not rub against my leather, as it does on my cheaper set. By round I mean that the cross-section of the horn would be oval, as opposed to being rectangular on a set that is rolled from flat metal and then welded on.

If I have to pay $130 for a good set I am prepared to pay it.

which is good one to get?

thanks in advance

I am looking at rowing in port phillip bay
I am looking at a shank diameter of 0.5 inches
I am looking at a max width of inside of the horns at roughly 2.5 inches


n peter evans

Peter , if the other alternatives offered above don't work out , send me a drawing ...accurate ! and I'll cast you a set in manganese bronze ...very strong and can't be bent to fit .We'd have to get it right .I can roughly clean them up for you but I'd leave the finish polishing to you .

I'd make the pattern .