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ishmael
02-05-2010, 05:36 PM
Whoever invented this web architecture should be taken to the woodshed. Windows seven. I just tried to post a Hemingway story, and no soap.

I don't want the latest and greatest, I just want the damn thing to work, and it doesn't.

Paul Pless
02-05-2010, 05:40 PM
link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpOvzGiheOM)

SMARTINSEN
02-05-2010, 06:20 PM
I'll help.

For sale: baby shoes. Never worn.


There: that was easy, Ish, and I don't even have a Mac.

D Happ
02-05-2010, 07:18 PM
http://www.ubuntu.com/

Tom Montgomery
02-05-2010, 10:00 PM
Our Dear Leader on Windows:


This whole bash-a-Mac-to-drive-traffic thing is getting so old.

Nevertheless, the folks at The Inquirer give it their best shot, with an incredibly lame piece (http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/analysis/1590073/apple-mac-os-x-secure-windows) that claims Macs are much less secure than PCs and that Apple is a “cappuccino company.”

Just in case that flame bait wasn’t enough to drive traffic from angry fanboys, the Inquirer describes the typical Mac user as “a smug, technologically illiterate person who believes they are invulnerable because they use a Mac.”

Not to be a dick about grammar, but I guess I would point out that a typical Inquirer hack must be a smug ####bag who doesn’t know the difference between singular and plural, or maybe they don’t realize you should keep that consistent when he writes a sentence, otherwise you might look like he doesn’t know what the #### they’re doing.

That aside, it’s true we appeal to people who aren’t super tech savvy. We’re proud of that. It means we’re succeeding in our ultimate goal, which is to make technology invisible. You shouldn’t need to know anything to use our products. You should just pick them up and use them. I know that this offends some people, and I don’t care, because I’m right and they’re wrong.

As Flaubert (or maybe Dave Winer, I can never remember) once said, “The author in his work should be like God in the universe, present everywhere but visible nowhere.” Substitute technology for author and you get the idea. The best technology is the kind that’s so good you don’t see it.

That’s also one reason (among many) that Windows sucks. It’s always there, getting in your way, pretending to be helpful but really just pissing you off, like that waiter who keeps stopping by your table asking you if you need anything else, and is everything okay, and how do you like your dinner. When it’s not doing that, WIndows just keeps making you do things in ways that aren’t intuitive, that aren’t natural. It keeps jarring you, getting in between you and whatever it is you’re trying to do. There’s too much there there, if you know what I mean.

As for us, we’re not perfectly invisible — I’ll admit that. But we’re getting better all the time.

But yeah, you go, little hack for the Inquirer. I’m sure you’re a real tech expert, and it just grates on you to see people using Macs and to know that those people aren’t nearly as smart or as tech savvy as you. Why, you’re probably the best programmer in all the world, way smarter than all the engineers who work at Apple, but you’re working for the Inquirer because you don’t waste your precious code on losers who don’t know about tech.

Bah. Poser.

Posted by Steve at 11:35 am

http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/02/this-whole-bash-a-mac-to-drive-traffic-thing-is-getting-so-old.html

C. Ross
02-05-2010, 10:05 PM
Whoever invented this web architecture should be taken to the woodshed. Windows seven. I just tried to post a Hemingway story, and no soap.

<geek>You don't want SOAP, you want REST.</geek> Oh, never mind...

Keith Wilson
02-05-2010, 10:14 PM
It's just a nick, Adams.

ishmael
02-05-2010, 10:20 PM
What I wanted to post was "Big Two Hearted River." Early Hemingway. Back in my old stomping ground. I've camped along that river. In the guise of Nick Adams he brings it home. But the damn computer won't let me post it.

SMARTINSEN
02-05-2010, 10:27 PM
Here is a link. http://www.rbhs208.org/SumRead/Big2H_River.pdf


You cannot just C&P a PDF.

I liked the Nick Adams stories.

Keith Wilson
02-05-2010, 10:33 PM
This one. It was a good story. The rest of it is here. (www.rbhs208.org/SumRead/Big2H_River.pdf) You can select and paste text from a .pdf, but you have to fix the line breaks.


BIG TWO-HEARTED RIVER
Ernest Hemingway
PART I

The train went on up the track out of sight, around one of the hills of burnt timber. Nick sat down on the bundle of canvas and bedding the baggage man had pitched out of the door of the baggage car. There was no town, nothing but the rails and the burned-over country. The thirteen saloons that had lined the one street of Seney had not left a trace. The foundations of the Mansion House hotel stuck up above the ground. The stone was chipped and split by the fire. It was all that was left of the town of Seney. Even the surface had been burned off the ground.

Nick looked at the burned-over stretch of hillside, where he had expected to find the scattered houses of the town and then walked down the railroad track to the bridge over the river. The river was there. It swirled against the log spires of the bridge. Nick looked down into the clear, brown water, colored from the pebbly bottom, and watched the trout keeping themselves steady in the current with wavering fins. As he watched them they changed their positions again by quick angles, only to hold steady in the fast water again. Nick watched them a long time.

He watched them holding themselves with their noses into the current, many trout in deep, fast moving water, slightly distorted as he watched far down through the glassy convex surface of the pool its surface pushing and swelling smooth against the resistance of the log-driven piles of the bridge. At the bottom of the pool were the big trout. Nick did not see them at first. Then he saw them at the bottom of the pool, big trout looking to hold themselves on the gravel bottom in a varying mist of gravel and sand, raised in spurts by the current.

Nick looked down into the pool from the bridge. It was a hot day. A kingfisher flew up the stream. It was a long time since Nick had looked into a stream and seen trout. They were very satisfactory. As the shadow of the kingfisher moved up the stream, a big trout shot upstream in a long angle, only his shadow marking the angle, then lost his shadow as he came through the surface of the water, caught the sun, and then, as he went back into the stream under the surface, his shadow seemed to float down the stream with the current unresisting, to his post under the bridge where he tightened facing up into the current.

Nick's heart tightened as the trout moved. He felt all the old feeling. He turned and looked down the stream. It stretched away, pebbly-bottomed with shallows and big boulders and a deep pool as it curved away around the foot of a bluff.

Nick walked back up the ties to where his pack lay in the cinders beside the railway track. He was happy. He adjusted the pack harness around the bundle, pulling straps tight, slung the pack on his back got his arms through the shoulder straps and took some of the pull off his shoulders by leaning his forehead against the wide band of the tump-line. Still, it was too heavy. It was much too heavy. He had his leather rod-case in his hand and leaning forward to keep the weight of the pack high on his shoulders he walked along the road that paralleled the railway track, leaving the burned town behind in the heat, and he turned off around a hill with a high, fire-scarred hill on either side onto a road that went back into the country. He walked along the road feeling the ache from the pull of the heavy pack. The road climbed steadily. It was hard work walking up-hill. His muscles ached and the day was hot, but Nick felt happy. He felt he had left everything behind, the need for thinking, the need to write, other needs. It was all back of him.

ishmael
02-05-2010, 11:23 PM
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That's what I was looking for, Keith. Thanks.

I think it is very fine. On one level it's completely banal, and on another profoud. Nick doesn't worry the categories much, though in the stories he does encounter girls, and that will get a young man thinking about morals.

A tragic figure, Hemingway. But I'll tell ya, if I could pen "The Old Man and the Sea" I'd die happy.

tomlarkin
02-06-2010, 01:37 AM
Whoever invented this web architecture should be taken to the woodshed. Windows seven.
I always enjoy reading stuff by technologically-challenged people who blame the technology for their lack of success in manipulating it. :rolleyes:

High C
02-06-2010, 09:23 AM
....the typical Mac user as a smug, technologically illiterate person who believes they are invulnerable because they use a Mac.

Oh but they are invulnerable....only because there is so rarely anything useful, important, or valuable stored on a Mac. :p