Wooden Boatbuilder

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwpfgboaZKU

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EF3koO6ncA

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heNq-oqkBfEour family just got back from Imperia regatta, 13 hrs travelling, 3 hr show, 200 euros

[peter radclyffe]

tuiga, orion, lulu, vistona, rowdy, eilean, etc

[peter radclyffe]

we had a look round palinuro


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEAnpqiuhYU

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaH5CFCuMHc

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW7gA_RsCr4

[peter radclyffe]

http://http://www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/forums/archive/index.php?t-58.html

[peter radclyffe]

http://http://www.macduffshipdesign.com/gallery.htm

[peter radclyffe]

http://http://www.lanazione.it/livorno/cronaca/2010/09/25/390140-peschereccio_incagliato_elba.shtml

last year a skipper asked me to price up changing the round stern on his 28 mt trawler to a square stern, & also asked for the price of a new boat

last night at 4 am this trawler sank, whether thru tiredness, drunkenness, couldntcarelessness or otherwise has yet to be discovered
of course it may have been a simple mistake, or dodgy autopilot

http://www.lanazione.it/livorno/cronaca/2010/09/25/390140-peschereccio_incagliato_elba.shtml

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img078.jpg

amazon 1880 one of the first boats i worked on

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fwales%2Fmid%2 Fsites%2Faberaeron%2Fpages%2Fmountain_lass.shtml&h=149a0

[peter radclyffe]

http://http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?101792-clovelly-picarooner

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JakBhIPBGgs

[The Morwenna]

About post # 168 by Lucky Luke...or Rantanplan?


Yesterday I found a post full of grief about the refit of The Morwenna. This is my answer, and I presume you will receive answers from others peoples you have insulted too.


I think you should have thought long and hard before writing your comments about The Morwenna's refit.


I own The Morwenna since more than twenty years now and, as you know, I know her better than anyone else and I am perfectly aware of the beauty of the design and construction.


You should have had the decency to contact me personally if you had remarks or questions about the restoration (you have my email since a long time) before insulting me and trying to ruin the reputation of a yard on an open forum.


The Morwenna's refit has been conducted as close as the original.
We (I also speak for the yard ) would be very stupid to make shortcuts on a boat like Her, as:


a) This refit is maybe the last she will have (who knows of the availability of wood and boats carpenter in 50 years).

b) I hate « cosmetic restorations »: for me the most important part is the structure - hull, deck, rigging rudder.

c) The yard had plenty of time to think and work, there was no time pressure, and we would be very stupid not making a top notch work.




Now let's go over your criticisms - or should I say insults?


Morwenna had one of the most beautiful decking you can ever see, with deck planks starting along the king plank first (which king plank was narrower at the ends - at least they have respected that!)


The deck is still exactly as it was, except teak replacing the original Kauri.
The kingplanks have the same dimension than the old ones.
Every measures of the original deck have been recorded before dismantling it. Templates have been made.




and then each plank nicely narrowed each end,


The planks are still nicely narrowed each ends.


gradually coming to a shape close to that of the gunwale .


This one I do not get it, sorry.




Where they were nicely holly splined,
and not bluntly squared like it is now by this bunch of bloody damn cowboys!!! .


They were indeed holy splinned which is very nice, but we think it is better to have a bigger end to the planks as they are already quite narrow. Did I say they were narrowed at the end? :)


not to mention such wide king planks...varnished! ...confusing sailing and ice skating!


As already mentionned, the kingplanks are the same width as the original, you think it is wider because the first deck plank is also varnished. (Do not make certitude on low resolution pictures).


It was quite common practice to varnish wide planks in order to limit shrinkage under the sun.
As for the ice skating I am not a specialist, I use skis instead.


I had bought the best plywood you can find on the market from Contreplaques Charles, with the intent to redo the whole decking since beams were rotten on top


If your self importance tolerates a remark, I think it is bad practice to put plywood on rotten beams.


they could easily have rectified this little "wave" there was in the deck, at the level of the foremast, as the picture you have posted shows (although slightly blurred there), but do you think that these cowboys even noticed it?


The "cowboys" noticed several problems in the sheerline or more precisely on the deck, especially near the runner fitting, the sheerline was corrected and I don’t see any problem on the picture you mention.

One common thing with boats having the maximum beam forward is that you can have a wave effect from some points of view, this is well known.

But maybe you mean we should have moved the minimum freeboard at max beam level.
I will certainly think about it next time.


You can of course come to the yard to check by yourself, I am not sure you will be most welcome by the cowboys/cochons/bathtube sailors but I can take care of your security. ;)




This is my answer. The least would be from you to appologize on this forum.

Morwenna's owner

[peter radclyffe]

hello, can you please show us some original king plank/deck photos, & some recent ones, thank you

[peter radclyffe]

here is the body plan of the 9 mt baltic cutter i am building, some frame stations omitted for clarity

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img578.jpg

[Larks]

Peter, any more info on this cutter? Where are you building her and how far into it are you? Materials?

[peter radclyffe]

Greg ive only picked up the ply patterns off the loft floor so far, i shall have to wait to buy some oak or acacia for sawn frames, which are maybe 45 mm x 120 mm at turn of bilge , spaced 400, with intermediate 30 x 50 bent frames, 140 sided centreline, & maybe 30 mm larch planking

[Lucky Luke]

About post # 168 by Lucky Luke


Yesterday I found a post full of grief about the refit of The Morwenna. This is my answer, and I presume you will receive answers from others peoples you have insulted too.


Yes, quite some grief, and with good reasons.
When I saw the picture posted by Peter, and then went to the site of "Chantier du Guip", and saw these pictures of the new deck, I was very sorry to see how this deck had been redone!
This being said, and whatever the reasons why I am specially sensitive to anything that concerns this boat (and you know why!), I should not have expressed my anger in an insulting way to the people who did this work. I do not agree on some parts of what they did, but besides that they have done some obviously great work, and I apologize for the words I have used.



I own The Morwenna since more than twenty years now and, as you know, I know her better than anyone else and I am perfectly aware of the beauty of the design and construction.

I am just as aware as you are of the intrinsic beauty of this boat, this is not your exclusivity, and I have given her as much love and care as you did. Had I not done what I did to save her, you and her might now be at the bottom of the oceans, after she would have dropped her whole keel and ballast. Maybe even she would have turned into firewood, or be rotten to death, left where she was when I rescued her.



You should have had the decency to contact me personally if you had remarks or questions about the restoration (you have my email since a long time) before insulting me and trying to ruin the reputation of a yard on an open forum.

Why not contact you (again)? You have the response in the mail I just sent you. Sorry people for that personal bit.



Now let's go over your criticisms - or should I say insults?

(Originally posted by Lucky Luke): "Morwenna had one of the most beautiful decking you can ever see, with deck planks starting along the king plank first (which king plank was narrower at the ends - at least they have respected that!")

The deck is still exactly as it was, except teak replacing the original Kauri.
The kingplanks have the same dimension than the old ones.
Every measures of the original deck have been recorded before dismantling it. Templates have been made
The planks are still nicely narrowed each ends.

The king plank design has been respected, absolutely. But not the rest of the planking. Anybody looking at the pictures I have posted: the original and the refit, can see that.



...
(Originally posted by Luck Luke:..."gradually coming to a shape close to that of the gunwale")

This one I do not get it, sorry.

That is the problem.

It seems (?) that the width of the planks gradually diminishes aft in the refit, but not forward, or not visibly. This departs from the original, and not in the prettiest way.

What I mean is that, with the planks started with a slight curve running along the curved shape of the king planks, and becoming gradually wider at max. beam, but narrower at the ends, the planks finally come to a more curved shape, close to that of the gunwale (or covering board= virure de plat bord), but no quite, being still nibbed into it. Very elegant, indeed!




Originally posted by Lucky Luke:"....where they were nicely holly splined, and not bluntly squared like it is now by this bunch of bloody damn cowboys!!!")

They were indeed holy splined which is very nice, but we think it is better to have a bigger end to the planks as they are already quite narrow. Did I say they were narrowed at the end? :)

...and that is what you guys did wrong! Departing from the original which has stood the test of years because "you think", and not having the good taste to do it more nicely is definitely what got me on my toes!
I repeat, though: I should not have called "bloody damn cowboys" people who, besides that, did some really good job.



[I]
(Originally posted by Lucky Luke:"...not to mention such wide king planks...varnished! ...confusing sailing and ice skating!")

As already mentionned, the kingplanks are the same width as the original, you think it is wider because the first deck plank is also varnished. (Do not make certitude on low resolution pictures). It was quite common practice to varnish wide planks in order to limit shrinkage under the sun.

Where did I say the kingplanks departed from the original??? I can very well see they are OK. Actually, they were of very good teak, not kauri like the rest of the decking, and I never even suspected that they had been replaced. Why...??? I dunno.

For what is to have them varnished: yes, that is right: for yachts staying in marinas, it was common practice to have them varnished, and for the reasons you cite. I am surprised, though, that a person with your sailing experience, specially on that boat which heels easily hard over, does not consider the danger of having such a wide area of the deck with slippery varnish. She had stayed with me years, in the sun of the Mediterranean, without these planks moving. However, that was "with good intentions" for the boat, so I shall respect that. Have fun skiing the mountains of Switzerland...and may you not fall overboard.



[I]
Originally posted by Lucky L:uke:" I had bought the best plywood you can find on the market from Contreplaques Charles, with the intent to redo the whole decking since beams were rotten on top")

If your self importance tolerates a remark, I think it is bad practice to put plywood on rotten beams.

If I mention that the beams were rotten on top, where do you see that my works, which were already extensive - although with limited means that obliged me to temporary shortcuts like the frames or stem repair - would have excluded such an easy one as to replace the beams once all the decking would have been off????
Who is insulting who, there?




Originally posted by Lucky Luke:" ....they could easily have rectified this little "wave" there was in the deck, at the level of the foremast, as the picture you have posted shows (although slightly blurred there), but do you think that these cowboys even noticed it?")

The "cowboys" noticed several problems in the sheerline or more precisely on the deck, especially near the runner fitting, the sheerline was corrected and I don’t see any problem on the picture you mention.
One common thing with boats having the maximum beam forward is that you can have a wave effect from some points of view, this is well known.

As a man with a few dozen years of yacht design behind him, this "S" shape is something I quite well know about. Thank you.

And this is not what I am talking about....but perhaps you did not notice it ??? It shows well on the picture Peter posted! Right at the level of the foremast, the deck had/ has a bump. This bump corresponds a slight hogging she suffered, that was not all along but only forward, about her maximum beam. This was visible when looking at the sheer line from the right angle, and not where it naturally shows a "S" shape.

This picture is taken after the frames, beams, stem, decking were re-done, and this has been left there. It would be an extremely strange coincidence that a distorsion from the camera has created this exactly in the place where it was :D

It is a pity that is had not been rectified! A pity!



You can of course come to the yard to check by yourself, I am not sure you will be most welcome by the cowboys/cochons/bathtub sailors but I can take care of your security. ;)
This is my answer. The least would be from you to apologize on this forum

OK. considering the otherwise nice job that has been done in many other places, I apologize (again!) fro calling them guys at the "Chantier Naval du Guip": cowboys, cochons. and the Bathtub sailor, that would have been you, which you definitely are not.

Then, while they are capable of such works, why not do it right all the way? They had, as you say, plenty of time. Where is she now: still there? I don't know....and maybe I don't really want to know!

I have given to this boat a few years of my life and all what I had under the sun!. She was soon, very soon, going to be a wreck beyond repairs, she had been scuttled of near all of her interior, much of her gear, and was going to be the prey of more vultures, she was nothing but a mushroom growing field, and only owned to her construction quality to have stood so long in conditions that would have just completely destroyed any other boat not that well built. She was in a legal entanglement that only a person with the most profound dedication, as I did, could have cleared her from this mess. Took me a year just for that.

AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!!

So, Stephane, Morwenna owner: if you have any respect for that boat, you have to show some to me also, for what I did for her, and which allows you to be her proud owner today, and not react like an offended kid to founded critics, but reckon what you owe to others before you.

Luc Vernet

Former Morwenna owner

[Lucky Luke]

Sorry dear fellow forumnites, and specailly you, Peter, for this looooong reply to Morwenna's present owner post. It is not really off-topic in this "Woodenboat boatbuilder" post, but certainly not the most entertaining one.

As it happens, I have just received a mail from "The Morwenna" that puts things in a different perspective, for me at least.

Maybe a thread about this boat, her past with me, and then her last twenty years, would be ....well.... we shall see!!!

[peter radclyffe]

heres my old lines plan of a 26 ft m f v yacht hull i designed & built in 1989
http://http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img513.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

Luc it would be lovely to see a thread about Morwenna

[peter radclyffe]

my sister Sas & her fella Tony's wartime boat Asco, now near Falmouth, they work out of Ilfracombe crewing a standby research boat

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img584.jpg

[Larks]

That's better.......thanks for unlocking it Peter



Maybe a thread about this boat, her past with me, and then her last twenty years, would be ....well.... we shall see!!!


Luc', another vote for a thread on Morwena!!............... Please!!

[Lucky Luke]

Dear Peter, Larks,
This boat still now remains a very painful story for me, and although I may occasionally post a couple of the very few pics I have from that time, I do not really feel like exposing the whole of her story here! To say that she was "lost in a divorce" is a very elegant way to describe a pure, flat robbery and abuse of confidence by a #%^*)#& bitch! May she suffer till her last breath and burn in hell forever!

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img585.jpg

[Larks]

what's the story behind the picture Peter?

[peter radclyffe]

levelling the new arch board, counter block, & the whole boat pulled back into shape after 20 years, the correct sheer, beam, tumblehome, with a water level, laser, plumbobs, no one else can do this for you, you have to do it yourself, while you have 3'000 other construction details on your mind

[peter radclyffe]

last week i designed a 14 metre gaff cutter

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img589.jpg

[Peacefuljourney]

It's been asked: no, he can't:(

Nice re-start, Peter: keep the good stuff coming again:)

Lucky that's what happen when you break the only rule I keep with my boats. NEVER go back on a boat that you have sold, it's always deception as it's not like you want/or see it. I did this mistake once, and now even when I am invited on one of my old boat I decline, it always open a old scar.

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjadS07KnTU

[peter radclyffe]

here is one layout for this gaff cutter
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img595.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img594.jpg

amateur yacht design

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img596.jpg

a big wide open cockpit for days of wine & roses, if they ever come back, lol

[peter radclyffe]

centreline sided 200/ 160, iroko, oak, opepe or acacia

floors 250 x 70
single sawn frames 65 x 200/90 every 500, with 1 steamed between 40 x 60,
planking 36 mm , single or double carvel or double epoxy
teak deck,

[peter radclyffe]

i design by carving half models, in 1985 as part of my thousand hull study,in a few weeks i carved /designed 60 boats to scale, usually quarter or three eighths of an inch to the foot, smacks, cutters, ketches, yachts, trawlers, tugs, cobles, barges,schooners ,coasters etc i was trying to teach myself design, some days i would carve 2 models, then i didnt carve for a while, but i cant tell you where the centre of gravity is, or the stability calculations, or the displacement

[Larks]

[IMG]
a big wide open cockpit for days of wine & roses, if they ever come back, lol

they will Peter, they sort of sneak up on you!

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHSECSePt_U

[peter radclyffe]

here is another design a 23 metre gaff ketch


http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img597.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

this mornings design effort

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img598.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img599.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

at 11 metres
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img600.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img182-1.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymotion.com%2Fvideo%2 Fxc73sj_arcachon-regates-de-6-metres-ji-en_sport&h=43ea7

[peter radclyffe]

our wedding

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img604.jpg

[Larks]

You're looking rather serious there Peter................. Looks like a nice day though, where was it?

[peter radclyffe]

just up the road, yeah serious i was trying to understand 100 italian people, & say italian vows

[Larks]

that's fair reason to be a bit serious, actually I'd say that's fair reason to be just a little bloody scared!!!!:d

[peter radclyffe]

its my fault for not learning italian,
at marciana on the island they have regattas, here is latifa
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img606.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img608.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

here is a rare shot of a new boat in frame being moved between yards

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img612.jpg

[Sailor]

Interesting to see a boat in frame being moved like that.

[peter radclyffe]

shepherds, tirrennia 2

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img607.jpg

[Robert Abernethy]

Paul Gartside 12' double ender launch spring 2011

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yGnNwg50lVw/TJG0yvjPAoI/AAAAAAAAAP4/6Q2eHQUlrIM/s320/IMG_0243.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yGnNwg50lVw/TJG0yvjPAoI/AAAAAAAAAP4/6Q2eHQUlrIM/s1600/IMG_0243.jpg)http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yGnNwg50lVw/TMsD80TlAkI/AAAAAAAAASI/v0ZOhiUvWUU/s200/IMG_0386.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yGnNwg50lVw/TMsD80TlAkI/AAAAAAAAASI/v0ZOhiUvWUU/s1600/IMG_0386.jpg)

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.sailingyachtiduna.com/

i supervised the new spars , rigging & fitting out on iduna

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img051.jpg

[Lucky Luke]

Patience....Patience...;)

[peter radclyffe]

teak on teak on mortgage

[peter radclyffe]

http://fartygsbevarande.ning.com/photo/spunning-1?context=latest

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JhWPDKzU6A

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0pfw80d43Y

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgY3ZJLqaFA

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBJH6gxgkbU

[peter radclyffe]

Beam: 4.34 m.
Draft: 2.98 m.


Berthon Boat Company Shipyard, where in 1925 he built the Mairie, which then would be Vanessa, the Concha y Analía now called, is one of the oldest English shipyards are still functioning and, since its founding over 200 years ago , is still owned by the same family, May, big fans of water sports.
Like other ships built by Berthon and designed by the great Scottish naval architect Alfred Mylne, Mairie was also awarded the Cross of Malta rating of Lloyd's Register, by the very high quality construction and design. Five years later, under the name Vanessa was purchased by its first owner Spanish: D. Sans Miguel Mora, unforgettable character, drive and a key figure of the nautical sports Spanish and European, who for over twenty years he, with enthusiasm and success, the position of Commodore of the Real Club Nautico de Barcelona and President of the International Committee of the Mediterranean.
In 1930, Mr. Sans I moved to Spain and, following family tradition, I renamed CONCHA II, participating with him, with excellent results in many races, among which include the first organized in Barcelona after the Civil War with the Barcelona-Palma route.
Memory of that period and the importance of the analysis in the RCNB are the different models and paintings that, even today, 80 years later, decorate some of the dependencies thereof, including most notably a remarkable painting of José María Prim, in which is represented with its original rigging and sails perfectly oriented, as befits a painter who knew so much about sailing.
Don Miguel Concha II sold in 1947 to D. Beaman Ramón del Río, substituting another equally emblematic ship, the Altair. In Palma underwent a major restructuring, which included the replacement of the original gaff rig the current Marconi. In the early 50's, had several owners and underwent several name changes and early 60's, was acquired by Conde de Estrada, who changed his name to Analia, with which sails today. They did it in honor of Hispanic actress Gade Analia Argentina, very popular at that time.
Between 1970 and 1990, he returned to Catalonia Analía hand D. Marti Mariano Ventosa, who based it on Aiguadolç until the mid 90's, is purchased by a French company, Mr. Boissier, who with him across the Atlantic in 1998, later moved to Cannes, where it sets its base, being a regular in the classic regattas of the Mediterranean.
In 2,010 it is acquired by its present owner, who again bases on the Real Club Nautico de Barcelona, while rushing a new and careful restoration, during which he will build a teak deck identical to the original, being that as base, otherwise seeking the preservation of all its elements and, as far as possible, while maintaining by far the Marconi rig, the recovery of its original appearance.
The Analía is constructed entirely of teak, while furniture and interior woodwork is of mahogany and teak, iroko floors. Call particular attention to your living room, completely original and many details, also original, such as pulleys, faucets or toilets. Equally important defeat his booth, shell-shaped molded wood masterfully executed, an innovation of the time, which gives it a particular and unmistakable personality. They say it was a change designed by Mr. Sans Mora, who knows? The truth is that in the Twenties / Thirties molded wood was an absolute novelty and even bizarrely original and Alfred Mylne and a lover of news, or gallantry ...


http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/ie4943acad9302628/1284029901/std/anal%C3%ADa-con-buena-brisa.jpgAnalía good breeze



http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/id2533de59e90c407/1284029949/std/la-famosa-concha-de-la-caseta-de-derrota.jpgThe famous shell of the house of defeat



http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/i8be02e7e48ae5085/1284030010/std/con-viento-fuerte-cobra-toda-su-vida-a-pesar-de-un-aparejo-algo-reducido-respecto-al-original.jpgWith strong wind takes all his life, despite a somewhat reduced rig from the original








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Analía (http://www.aebec.org/flota/anal%C3%ADa/)
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Angelina Blue (http://www.aebec.org/flota/blue-angelina/)
Diana (http://www.aebec.org/flota/diana/)
Flicka (http://www.aebec.org/flota/flicka/)
Islander (http://www.aebec.org/flota/islander/)
Izarra (http://www.aebec.org/flota/izarra/)
Jolly Roger (http://www.aebec.org/flota/jolly-roger/)
Kanavel (http://www.aebec.org/flota/kanavel/)
Karmat (http://www.aebec.org/flota/karmat%C3%A1n/)
Malabar X (http://www.aebec.org/flota/malabar-x/)
Navala of Cowes (http://www.aebec.org/flota/navala-of-cowes/)
Nerissa (http://www.aebec.org/flota/nerissa/)
Hangover (http://www.aebec.org/flota/resaca/)
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Newsletter



On 31 December at 13:00 h Barcelona World Race


On Friday 31 will be out of the BWR to invite all owners to go out to enjoy the spectacular wonderful IMOCA 60


2010 Regular Meeting AEBEC



Barcelona, November 27


This morning held its first ordinary meeting of members of the AEBEC.

[peter radclyffe]

LANDER


http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/idf383d22960fe987/1290639479/std/image.jpg




http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/i009b25a4f3a0ffb8/1290639589/std/el-islander-tiene-una-magn%C3%ADfica-estampa.jpgThe Islander has a wonderful picture


http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/i4aa42495506cc6d1/1290639734/std/un-verdadero-gentleman-s-cruiser.jpgA true Gentleman's cruiser

[peter radclyffe]

heres a boat my boss ugo baravalle used to own 10 years ago


ALBA



http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/i9e79d3ef77328c99/1279306826/std/image.jpg






Features:
Design: Philip Rhodes
Construction: Abeking & Rasmussen
Year: 1956
Length: 13.12 m.
Beam: 3.42 m.
Draft: 2.40 m



Alba was born with the name of Honey in the German shipyard Abeking & Rasmussen has always been one of the best in the world and designed by Philip Rhodes, the great master teachers naval architects.
With the same design, inspired by the lines of very victorious yawl Carina 53-foot, winner including the Transatlantic Newport-Santander, 1957, A & R built four sister ships, which differed in details of the rig, sloop or yawl, cover the maneuver, cane or wheel, but also even by differences at the hull, keel or retractable. Alba, in particular, is a yawl, with rudder and keel cane, which is a very American and as close to the design of Carina, the keel also.
Among its owners, was the famous French Chef André Surmain, the founder of Lutece in Manhattan. Just Honey Surmain brought to the Mediterranean, during the 70's. In the following decade, in the hands of Swiss architect Marc Baillart, under the name of hope, Alba sailed throughout the Mediterranean, visiting the most remote places. Both owners kept the boat in its complete originality and when the famous Italian collector bought Ugo Baravalle precisely its originality was one of the most important virtues that convinced him to buy.
Today Alba surfing at Barcelona, under the rule of President of our neonatal Association and continues to be a happy coincidence that one of their twins, built by A & R in the distant '50s, the Fair Winds, is today owned President of the Association of Australian Classic boats! (How interesting challenge could be organized ...).



http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/i0431ae6858a4770e/1279306827/std/alba-en-el-trofeo-forum-05.jpgAlba Forum 05 Trophy



http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/i66b2b06b6f0b5336/1279306827/std/l%C3%ADneas-suaves-y-elegantes.jpgSoft and elegant








Alba (http://www.aebec.org/flota/alba/)
Almaren (http://www.aebec.org/flota/almar%C3%A1n/)
Altamar (http://www.aebec.org/flota/altamar/)
Analía (http://www.aebec.org/flota/anal%C3%ADa/)
Forever Anquins (http://www.aebec.org/flota/anquins-forever/)
Benguría (http://www.aebec.org/flota/benguri/)
Angelina Blue (http://www.aebec.org/flota/blue-angelina/)
Diana (http://www.aebec.org/flota/diana/)
Flicka (http://www.aebec.org/flota/flicka/)
Islander (http://www.aebec.org/flota/islander/)
Izarra (http://www.aebec.org/flota/izarra/)
Jolly Roger (http://www.aebec.org/flota/jolly-roger/)
Kanavel (http://www.aebec.org/flota/kanavel/)
Karmat (http://www.aebec.org/flota/karmat%C3%A1n/)
Malabar X (http://www.aebec.org/flota/malabar-x/)
Navala of Cowes (http://www.aebec.org/flota/navala-of-cowes/)
Nerissa (http://www.aebec.org/flota/nerissa/)
Hangover (http://www.aebec.org/flota/resaca/)
Rosendo (http://www.aebec.org/flota/rosendo/)
Zacapa (http://www.aebec.org/flota/zacapa/)
Notice board



Newsletter



On 31 December at 13:00 h Barcelona World Race


On Friday 31 will be out of the BWR to invite all owners to go out to enjoy the spectacular wonderful IMOCA 60


2010 Regular Meeting AEBEC



Barcelona, November 27


This morning held its first ordinary meeting of members of the AEBEC.

[peter radclyffe]

http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/idf44a86775847e5e/1279202403/std/image.jpg


Features:
Design: Olin Stephens
Construction: Henry Nevins
Year: 1936
Length: 13.81 m.
Beam: 3.21 m.
Draught: 1.97 m.
Displacement: 11.13 t.


Almaren born as Swell (Wave) and is the third ship built for the famous class of New Yorker 32 (NY32), designed by Olin Stephens, for the famous substuir designed by Nat Herreshoff NY30. For Stephens, then very young, it was a huge success, and he had to win in a contest Yacht Club of New York to the best cabinets of Naval Architects of time.Among the losers were counted last names of the caliber of Alden, Luders or Payne. This class, as many (might say, all) of the initial projects Stephens, owes much of its design to the International Formula, for which the young Olin designed several 6-meter boats were his first great success. With respect to a "metric formula," the boats NY32 are much higher freeboard and therefore more livable and adapted to sailing in height, which was one of the requirements of the competition. Almar is also the only NY32 sailing in Europe and this is due to a passionate Italian to his country led him to undertake a major restoration work. Today, it remains a very fast boat in the race and not only classics, no!: Almaren is able to paste a shock to many modern boats regatta, their grandchildren.



http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/i15484dcffe520e8c/1279202406/std/almar%C3%A1n-es-rapid%C3%ADsimo-en-regatas.jpgAlmaren is very fast in races


http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/i539c045d178507b5/1279202410/std/una-imagen-agresiva-de-almar%C3%A1n.jpgAlmaren aggressive image







Alba (http://www.aebec.org/flota/alba/)
Almaren (http://www.aebec.org/flota/almar%C3%A1n/)
Altamar (http://www.aebec.org/flota/altamar/)
Analía (http://www.aebec.org/flota/anal%C3%ADa/)
Forever Anquins (http://www.aebec.org/flota/anquins-forever/)
Benguría (http://www.aebec.org/flota/benguri/)
Angelina Blue (http://www.aebec.org/flota/blue-angelina/)
Diana (http://www.aebec.org/flota/diana/)
Flicka (http://www.aebec.org/flota/flicka/)
Islander (http://www.aebec.org/flota/islander/)
Izarra (http://www.aebec.org/flota/izarra/)
Jolly Roger (http://www.aebec.org/flota/jolly-roger/)
Kanavel (http://www.aebec.org/flota/kanavel/)
Karmat (http://www.aebec.org/flota/karmat%C3%A1n/)
Malabar X (http://www.aebec.org/flota/malabar-x/)
Navala of Cowes (http://www.aebec.org/flota/navala-of-cowes/)
Nerissa (http://www.aebec.org/flota/nerissa/)
Hangover (http://www.aebec.org/flota/resaca/)
Rosendo (http://www.aebec.org/flota/rosendo/)
Zacapa (http://www.aebec.org/flota/zacapa/)

Notice board


Newsletter


On 31 December at 13:00 h Barcelona World Race

On Friday 31 will be out of the BWR to invite all owners to go out to enjoy the spectacular wonderful IMOCA 60

2010 Regular Meeting AEBEC


Barcelona, November 27

This morning held its first ordinary meeting of members of the AEBEC.

[peter radclyffe]

http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/ia667f35b2b0f3ed6/1279202666/std/image.jpg





Features:
Design: John G. Alden
Construction: Hodgdon Brothers
Year: 1930
Length: 18.10 m.
Beam: 4.38 m.
Draught: 2.52 m.

The Malabar X, the tenth ship of his own personal designer, the renowned American architect John Gale Alden, is one of the largest ships in the history of recreational marine design. It was the last staff Alden schooner, which was always closely linked to this type of rig and was also the most victorious in their personal boats, thus marking the culmination of the career of the architect. In 1930 he won the Bermuda Race in its category and in 1932 returned to win in general, the only time this has happened, from our very own boat designer. Moreover, in this last race, five Alden schooners were classified in the first ten positions. It was the swan song of the American Schooner, condemned the lack of a large spinnaker for bearings bearing, due to the foremast too low. The Malabar X was affected by Hurricane Bob, which launched him onto the pier for mooring, with serious damage. Shortly after, he was bought for 35,000 dollars, as stated in the documentation of Lloyd's Register and subjected to a meticulous reconstruction, under the supervision of the Alden firm, who still works in Boston, where the original parts are easily recognized. Today sailing gracefully through the waters of the Mediterranean with Spanish flag and port of registry in Barcelona.


http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/i9e89d98eaed7524b/1279202666/std/preciosa-e-hist%C3%B3rica-foto-de-dos-barcos-importantes-para-la-historia-americana-el-malabar-x-y-el-pride-of-baltimore.jpgBeautiful and historic photo of two major vessels to American history: the Malabar X and the Pride of Baltimore



http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/ia667f35b2b0f3ed6/1279202666/std/image.jpg





Features:
Design: John G. Alden
Construction: Hodgdon Brothers
Year: 1930
Length: 18.10 m.
Beam: 4.38 m.
Draught: 2.52 m.

The Malabar X, the tenth ship of his own personal designer, the renowned American architect John Gale Alden, is one of the largest ships in the history of recreational marine design. It was the last staff Alden schooner, which was always closely linked to this type of rig and was also the most victorious in their personal boats, thus marking the culmination of the career of the architect. In 1930 he won the Bermuda Race in its category and in 1932 returned to win in general, the only time this has happened, from our very own boat designer. Moreover, in this last race, five Alden schooners were classified in the first ten positions. It was the swan song of the American Schooner, condemned the lack of a large spinnaker for bearings bearing, due to the foremast too low. The Malabar X was affected by Hurricane Bob, which launched him onto the pier for mooring, with serious damage. Shortly after, he was bought for 35,000 dollars, as stated in the documentation of Lloyd's Register and subjected to a meticulous reconstruction, under the supervision of the Alden firm, who still works in Boston, where the original parts are easily recognized. Today sailing gracefully through the waters of the Mediterranean with Spanish flag and port of registry in Barcelona.


http://u.jimdo.com/www20/o/s954c4091a11771d9/img/i9e89d98eaed7524b/1279202666/std/preciosa-e-hist%C3%B3rica-foto-de-dos-barcos-importantes-para-la-historia-americana-el-malabar-x-y-el-pride-of-baltimore.jpgBeautiful and historic photo of two major vessels to American history: the Malabar X and the Pride of Baltimore

[ShagRock]

Peter..do you have name of schooner in post#121?

[peter radclyffe]

since the forum changed my posts are not numbered, can you give me a clue

these spanish translations lose a lot

[Paul Pless]

Peter..do you have name of schooner in post#121?


since the forum changed my posts are not numbered, can you give me a clue

these spanish translations lose a lot

I'm seeing a ketch in post 121, not a schooner.


http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img523.jpg

Peter, the post numbering and timestamps are only missing in Internet Explorer. If you view the forum in Mozilla Firefox all of the features and formats appear to be correct.

[peter radclyffe]

mozilla, i must try that thanks Paul, i dont know what that boat is


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWxw0s1xGWE

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9MCcfkc0uo

[Lucky Luke]

I'm seeing a ketch in post 121, not a schooner.

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/lucky-luke-vn/img523.jpg

That is where the borderline between a ketch and a schooner could get a bit grey!

On this "sailing vessel", the largest sail (main sail) appears to be on the foremast, but in the other hand the aftermost mast is taller than the foremast, making it a schooner since, as far as I know, it is the main mast - not the sail - that is the "determining factor". I reckon that, as far as handling the two gaff sails is concerned, sailing her would be very much like a ketch, but the size of the jib makes her a schooner (again!)
Would that foremast have been designed to carry a topsail, as the main does, with then bigger jib and staysail, that would have made her a ketch.

So, all in all: she is a schooner!

P.S.: this same "odd" proportions in size of sail and size of masts is found on some baltic traders (most were undeniably ketches).

[peter radclyffe]

yes its a puzzle ketch or schooner

heres a boat type i designed from
http://www.caleyboats.co.uk/18/Sail-Craft-for-Sale/Spey-35-class-motor-sailer-loa-32ft-37i

[peter radclyffe]

this is similar to, or maybe is the Frediswyde which was kept at manningtree in essex & owned by my sisters , fella's father, mr Richardson, a farmer from Ardleigh

http://www.boatshop24.com/en/sailing-boats/inchcape-32-2660317

[peter radclyffe]

the bessie ellen, garlandstone, irene, millbay, & kathleen & may are west country trading coasters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G4crEXPwC4

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-j4x2TR3nI

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtwEgF1xai0

[peter radclyffe]

at hinks in appledore we built the aquila & the sapphire, 70 ft iroko on oak trawlers, maybe the last big traditional wooden boats to be built in england 1988

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img367.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uEijjjikPY

i studied duet in southampton

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC92mlpGghM

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.kenau.nl/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=84675

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.theletty.net/Letty/Welcome.html

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9DKJoT9YEM

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Slt9WLLMWs

i learnt a lot of french boats dont have a hog, & i learnt one french way to spile a plank is with a string line

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7fH4f-tw1A

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcaO6F7PzpI

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmNwau9jrHs

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZt4AaYQmsE

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.fky.org/yachten+segler/yachtportraits/alraune.html

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/699037/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/699037/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.novascotiawebcams.com/south-shore/bluenose-ii.html?sms

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WHWs1Fbkfg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWtf6kpXAOo

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6aGuxQRG4

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luhSTd1ZIXg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0LoofUKh2c

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQCMcdpw6r8

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ONLJgpNpPE

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUOSRL7HpAY

[floatingkiwi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQCMcdpw6r8

Wow, awesome catch. Those guys are the grit aren't they. Hows the poses for the camera near the end, God Bless their fish rippin, dory rowing, sea toiling asses. Especially that guy at 9.05.Claaaaasssssiiccccc!!

[floatingkiwi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUOSRL7HpAY

I couldn't believe my eyes when she capsized. Even less when they righted her again. What a monumental effort by all. Hows all the people standing at attention across the spars. All these amazing events, so huge and relevant at the time, to slowly fade as the years wipe grey, the colourful, boisterous past and the things that helped shape today.It is a treasure to be able to watch these magnificent films. Thanks mate.

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.afyt.fr/pages/yachts_10.html

[peter radclyffe]

I knew biche from hamble yacht services about 20 years ago, now ze grand old tub is being restored in france
http://dailymotion.virgilio.it/video/xgbdtn_biche-en-dec-2010-la-bauquiere-par-j-c-rosso_creation#from=embed

[headonz]

Ingrid

http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/12755533_WkKh6#919001599_ypzMb

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fen%2Ewikipedia%2Eorg%2Fw iki%2FSigyn_%2528ship%2529&urlhash=EVtl&_t=tracking_disc

[peter radclyffe]

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/919000503_RFSMX-M.jpg (http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/12755533_WkKh6#919000503_RFSMX-A-LB)

this is great, are you building this, what are the woods

[peter radclyffe]

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/918998480_tPqqc-M.jpg (http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/12755533_WkKh6#918998480_tPqqc-A-LB)

[peter radclyffe]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Sigyn_f%C3%B6rifr%C3%A5n_2008.jpg/300px-Sigyn_f%C3%B6rifr%C3%A5n_2008.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sigyn_f%C3%B6rifr%C3%A5n_2008.jpg)

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.sjokvarteret.com/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.saaristoseikkailu.fi/SVE/images/img1.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

Länkar/Links

Fartyg/Ships

Skonaren Linden, Mariehamn: www.linden.aland.fi (http://www.linden.aland.fi/)
Galeasen Albanus, Mariehamn: www.albanus.ax (http://www.albanus.ax/)
Skonerten Nordboen, Mariehamn: www.apalmersailing.aland.fi (http://www.apalmersailing.aland.fi/)
Gaffelkutter Lille Bjørn, Mariehamn: www.hantverkeri.com (http://www.hantverkeri.com/)
Jakten Alexandra, Vålax, Borgå: www.alexandra-skutan.fi (http://www.alexandra-skutan.fi/)
Jakten Eugenia, Kimito: www.eugenia.fi (http://www.eugenia.fi/)
Galeasen Inga, Kasnäs: www.skargardsaventyr.fi (http://www.skargardsaventyr.fi/)
Briggen Gerda Gefle: www.briggengerda.com (http://www.briggengerda.com/)
Barkskeppet Gunilla, Öckerö - den seglande gymnasieskolan: www.ockerogymnasieskola.se (http://www.ockerogymnasieskola.se/)
Skonaren Linnea, Gamleby: www.traskepp.se (http://www.traskepp.se/)
Briggen Tre Kronor, Skeppsholmen, Stockholm: www.briggentrekronor.se (http://www.briggentrekronor.se/)
Föreningar/Organizations

Ålands Skötbåtsförening: www.skotbatsforeningen.ax (http://www.skotbatsforeningen.ax/)
Vinden Drar: www.vindendrar.org (http://www.vindendrar.org/)
Föreningen Allmoge Båtar, Sverige: www.allmogebatar.nu (http://www.allmogebatar.nu/)
Skutföreningen Kustkultur i Finland: www.skutforening.org (http://www.skutforening.org/)
Sveriges Segelfartygsförening: www.ssf.h.se (http://www.ssf.h.se/)
Forbundet Kysten, Norge: www.kysten.no (http://www.kysten.no/)
Træskibs Sammenslutningen, Danmark: www.ts-skib.dk (http://www.ts-skib.dk/)
Museer/Museums

Museifartyget Pommern, Mariehamn: www.mariehamn.ax/pommern (http://www.mariehamn.ax/pommern)
Ålands Sjöfartsmuseum, Mariehamn: www.sjofartsmuseum.ax (http://www.sjofartsmuseum.ax/)
Ålands Jakt- och Fiskemuseum, Eckerö: home.aland.net/m04315 (http://home.aland.net/m04315)
Ålands Museum, Mariehamn: www.regeringen.ax/museum (http://www.regeringen.ax/museum)
Rannarootsi Muuseum, Haapsal, Estland: www.aiboland.ee (http://www.aiboland.ee/)
Övrigt/Miscellaneous

Hardanger Fartøyvernsenter, Norheimsund, Norge: www.fartoyvern.no (http://www.fartoyvern.no/)
Maritime Center Fredrikstad A/S, Norge: www.isegran.no (http://www.isegran.no/)
Harro Koskinen: www.perinnepurje.net (http://www.perinnepurje.net/)
Tidningen Puuvene: www.puuvene.fi (http://www.puuvene.fi/)
Stockholms Sjögård: www.sjogard.se (http://www.sjogard.se/)

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2tLXSW0GSQ

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHqgew4oi6s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHqgew4oi6s)

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdJB-_oP-U0

[headonz]

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/919000503_RFSMX-M.jpg (http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/12755533_WkKh6#919000503_RFSMX-A-LB)

this is great, are you building this, what are the woods

I wish :)

It must be a new build ,its just been added as a link at the Atkins site.

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3PxcJPZgP0

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gnPSOQuZ8

[headonz]

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/918996469_cms62-L.jpghttp://www.smugmug.com/gallery/12755533_WkKh6#918996469_cms62-X2-LB

[Lucky Luke]

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/lucky-luke-vn/Untitled-1-1.jpg

O combien de marins, combien de capitaines
Qui sont partis joyeux pour des courses lointaines
Dans ce morne horizon se sont évanouis!
Combien ont disparu, dure et triste fortune!
Dans une mer sans fond, par une nuit sans lune,
Dans l'aveugle océan à jamais enfouis!

Victor Hugo (Oceano Nox)

[Lucky Luke]

I couldn't believe my eyes when she capsized. Even less when they righted her again. What a monumental effort by all. Hows all the people standing at attention across the spars. All these amazing events, so huge and relevant at the time, to slowly fade as the years wipe grey, the colourful, boisterous past and the things that helped shape today.It is a treasure to be able to watch these magnificent films. Thanks mate.

You mean you laughed your head off?
What a miserable, ridiculous, obscene launching.!....and you know: this was just a few decades ago...when some of these "engineers" were writing books about Naval Architecture!
Hilarious!
No, Kerry: thiese are not pictures of a colorful, boisterous past but of the beginning of a miserable era of pretentious, incapable clique of politicians, bankers, fake technicians, used car salesmen and technocrates allied together to create the miserable world we live in today! I do not have the slightest respect for the bunch of cretins that did this monster piece of ultimate connerie!

[Peerie Maa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5JQGroBmtmQ#t=43s

Peter,
Do you know how they support the nib ends of all of those bilge streaks, every one finished short like a stealer?

[peter radclyffe]

i dont know, maybe nailed to the adjacent plank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYCMrcOAwiE

[headonz]

Amelie Rose (http://www.topsail-adventures.co.uk/index.php/Build/Building-Pilot-Cutter-Amelie-Rose-Tiller-thwart-hatches-and-berths-Early-Jan-2009.html)

http://www.topsail-adventures.co.uk/images/stories/BuildPics/WoodOpepe1.png

http://www.topsail-adventures.co.uk/images/stories/BuildPics/FrameingComplete1.JPG

http://www.topsail-adventures.co.uk/images/stories/BuildPics/30ARCompleteBelow5.JPG

http://www.topsail-adventures.co.uk/images/stories/BuildPics/nearlythere9.JPG

[rumcay]

radio check, ME 9300 F

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IldQ5Vdwym0

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhGgkCELbf0

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ov81aogaxg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img616-1.jpg

which yawl is this

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyJhGChrCjM

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7UKdCHQ-fk

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.cbc.ca/landandsea/2010/11/concordia.html

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.astillerosnereo.es/?section=contact-form

[peter radclyffe]

thanks for the stars Scot
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=1SNFI5IIRv6xxb1GCDs5Rw2mg03smBTfSi6uKcxde3ya 6YXaG-8oPPEpIbJVw&hl=en

[peter radclyffe]

colin archers

http://www.ssca.no/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.chantierdesileaux.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=61&Itemid=99

[peter radclyffe]

http://api.ning.com/files/S1CltpJtjrZSrU-81WeoUQahvwtT**DjILyj4h-6GivdJOh9*7pUkwksV3ryFoNX4-cD1UE4zn7dtuRKVv1VTtUOh3nefaIs/DSC_0016.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.veteran-rig.no/images/boats/marie_large.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.veteran-rig.no/images/boats/caliopev_large.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://http://www.veteran-rig.no/images/boats/eileen_ii_large.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.veteran-rig.no/images/boats/kragero_large.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.elbavideo.com/it/video/palio-remiero-elbano-2010-prova-unica.htm (http://www.elbavideo.com/it/video/palio-remiero-elbano-2010-prova-unica.htm)

my nephew andrea diversi is rowing in the padulella, designed by sergio spina

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrCVKlYta3w

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiLDBfDeku0

[peter radclyffe]

marigan
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=143940152310863&id=100000846382214&aid=20961

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXjbXcl0hwI

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVZCX4Husdg

[peter radclyffe]

hundested curntree and western
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuHXGT42Ve4

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJI1-37T09g

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB9ndZUO9G4

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2cA78ptlBQ

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAUcklS_vW0

[peter radclyffe]

http://dicionarionavalgalego.ingenierosnavales.com/descargardicionario/?lang=gl

[peter radclyffe]

http://unamiradaalariadevigo.blogspot.com/2009/06/el-galeon-coruxo-ya-navega.html

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.cantierenavipisa.it/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XthOkO-wsK4

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XELPt_x08Os

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbLH6dn_QWA

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh800jfKrMA

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD2RPv_WJbM

[peter radclyffe]

hey D T C
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvnmvuxlXHw

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2MttwCcowQ

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-a3XQ1QNmE

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.lapita-voyage.org/en/boatbuilding.html

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.solidarite-peche.org/Bateaux.html

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PhMHG72w2A

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/gaff-cutter-35344.html

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cym9g8ocZN8

[peter radclyffe]

http://astro.temple.edu/~bstavis/pr/hullform3.htm

[peter radclyffe]

http://yachts.monacoeye.com/yachtsbysize/pages/ambersea01.html
after near 50 years when i removed the monel screws from the teak and mahogany planking in oak frames, because they had been put in with tallow half the screws were hand tight, this yacht was designed by john bain and built by james silver of rosneath, with all teak interior, underwater planking, deck and super structure, the topsides were mahogany ,
bronze and 2, 6 cylinder gardners

[peter radclyffe]

http://yachts.monacoeye.com/yachtsbyname/mediafiles/ambersea01.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt7S-bhbrhc

[peter radclyffe]

its not easy to design a seaworthy boat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByGSMmenPDM

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56u8ECKVbPw

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73l_OWt_KUQ

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dt-l6mmPJc

[donald branscom]

While trying to delete a post,being a computer cripple ,
i mistakenly removed the thread
oh well
start again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE4HGlmtOcg

ONLY computer people call those that do not know computers "cripples or computer illiterate."

A mechanic does not call you mechanically illiterate just because you do not know how all the parts of your car work. Now do they?

[peter radclyffe]

BY:D im keyboard challenged, what do you want me to say

[peter radclyffe]

some of the illiterate mechanics ive met are worse than me with a computer

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.ina.fr/video/RYC9711247865/histoire-de-coquilles.fr.html

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KCikJTB118

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.hildringstimen.no/BATLISTA.HTM

[Pericles]

Ducking & diving about the Net, I ventured upon a website for a boatyard in Galicia, where they posted photographs of their work in 2001-02. IMO the vessel has the sweetest lines I've seen in a long time. View in Spanish as the English version is a lot shorter. http://www.modelismonaval.com/magazine/ribera/carpinteriaribera01.htm

[peter radclyffe]

this batlista is from a post by pericles

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbS5T_4NK20

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPJtISoG2BI

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1zKmJIYy8w

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdJOX2OxHFA

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdJB-_oP-U0

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO5cr4ApMbM

[peter radclyffe]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabab_Oman

[peter radclyffe]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Turk_(frigate)

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.frivagt.com/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3xBYD4-plU&feature=player_embedded

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.hobrovaerft.dk/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3xBYD4-plU&feature=player_embedded

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Git-48_CPww

[Pericles]

Thank you Peter for gathering this film. It was thought provoking. I shall now watch the other about the White Fleet.

[peter radclyffe]

lucky for us to find these things

http://zaruski.pl/?page_id=249

[Pericles]

That Grand Banker is still with us.

http://www.santamariamanuela.blogspot.com/

[peter radclyffe]

http://assoc-sb-clapotis.perso.neuf.fr/histoire_en.html#anchor-top

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.confindustrialivorno.it/comunicazione-e-stampa/rassegna-stampa/esaom.php?m=4&openCal=2&sm=

[peter radclyffe]

http://namnlistan.appspot.com/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjbI9dmc5n4

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.facebook.com/letgotheborgsail

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=129256957113026&id=118557454849643&aid=10401

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.frithjof.no/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.synth.no/~tine/images/bilder_files/ferdig.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXRJzZMTDPw

[peter radclyffe]

http://vimeo.com/17604473

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D5OjzgWuYs

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faN44EgABcs

[peter radclyffe]

http://abordelalzina.blogspot.com/

[peter radclyffe]

http://amicsdelamar.blogspot.com/

[peter radclyffe]

http://construccionnavalamateur.blogspot.com/p/quien-somos.html

[peter radclyffe]

http://elmareselcami.blogspot.com/

[peter radclyffe]

http://espaimarinatradicional.blogspot.com/

[peter radclyffe]

http://fuster-groller.blogspot.com/2010/05/un-nou-projecte-que-ja-ha-partit.html

[peter radclyffe]

here is another amateur design no 72, a 9 metre gaff cutter

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img663.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img663.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img662.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

and a 12 metre cruising cutter, design no 74

[peter radclyffe]

an 18 mt schooner
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img664.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img661.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

an 18 mt pilot cutter

[lagspiller]

one day a man on a mission walked into the yard where we repaired narrowboats, he told me he had a bolinder engine, & he was looking for a narrowboat to put it in, i asked him did he want a rotten boat or a sound boat,
rotten he said, then he could take his time rebuilding it, we walked over to where 2 boats were moored together, a coke can had floated between them & sunk one of them, your in luck said i, we have what you want,
6 grand to rebuild the bow
9 grand for the stern
& your divorce lawyer can advise you on the bit inbetween
fine he said, where do i sign

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdMxgI2ywYo

Not sure I follow all of the above, but this business with narrowboats...

I've long thought that it would be amazing to rent a narrowboat (england) one summer and bobble from town to town for a while. Does this post indicate that you have some connection with the same?

[lagspiller]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D5OjzgWuYs

...and I recognize this atmosphere. Could have been my boat in the first shots.
But what's the idea? I'm a little lost.

[peter radclyffe]

Not sure I follow all of the above, but this business with narrowboats...

I've long thought that it would be amazing to rent a narrowboat (england) one summer and bobble from town to town for a while. Does this post indicate that you have some connection with the same?
years ago, not any more, but there is a mag called ,waterways world, in england

[Blowtorch]

I think you still can:

http://www.drifters.co.uk/

[peter radclyffe]

a 15 mt pilot cutter
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img672-1.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img671-1.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

a 30 metre gaff cutter, design number 79

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img673.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

this is what i want to learn, so i can present my designs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5FzUQQbJYg

[peter radclyffe]

https://picasaweb.google.com/mjruane2/Sunbeam#5460080826477532066

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.boye-carre.com/diaporama.php?id_reportage=28

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwlebzuZbGE

[peter radclyffe]

a 65 foot motor sailer
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img674-1.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

work by james dodds
http://www.birchamgallery.co.uk/_img/thumbs/catalogue/do/donis025.384x500.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2080004&id=1057561123

[peter radclyffe]

http://lehope.free.fr/

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=505315918&aid=176166

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=87566775918&set=a.85402265918.94994.505315918&theater

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cym9g8ocZN8

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=399862080&gid=89193&type=member&item=45568368&articleURL=http://www.regates-imperiales.com/Le-programme-2011-des-Regates-Imperiales_a273.html&urlhash=cjnb&goback=.gde_89193_member_45568368

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlKz97UTfmE

[peter radclyffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AXpl9rl7Aw