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Cuyahoga Chuck
01-30-2010, 12:34 AM
Today the president visited congressional Republicans at a meeting they held and he invited questions. The small clip I saw suggested they didn't lay a hand on him but I would like to see more. Anyone have a web address for a video of those procedings?

Keith Wilson
01-30-2010, 10:43 AM
Here 's the whole thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBuG2TdgMn0

LeeG
01-30-2010, 10:45 AM
Today the president visited congressional Republicans at a meeting they held and he invited questions. The small clip I saw suggested they didn't lay a hand on him but I would like to see more. Anyone have a web address for a video of those procedings?

one guy tried and got slapped for it.

LeeG
01-30-2010, 10:51 AM
It'll be interesting to see who the media pull up for polarizing comments, will it be Mary Cheney or the dick himself, Sarah? Krauthammer definately. Oh what fun.

Bob Smalser
01-30-2010, 11:11 AM
Missed it.

Did they call him out on any of the lies and distortions he told in the State of the Union speech?

The Associated Press did. And there were many.




http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100128/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_fact_check

OBAMA: "Starting in 2011, we are prepared to freeze government spending for three years.

THE FACTS: The anticipated savings from this proposal would amount to less than 1 percent of the deficit and that's if the president can persuade Congress to go along.

OBAMA: "I've called for a bipartisan fiscal commission..."

THE FACTS: That idea crashed in the Senate this week, defeated by equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans. Any commission set up by Obama alone would lack authority to force its recommendations before Congress, and would stand almost no chance of success.

OBAMA: Discussing his health care initiative, he said, "Our approach would preserve the right of Americans who have insurance to keep their doctor and their plan."

THE FACTS: ... Obama can't guarantee people won't see higher rates or fewer benefits in their existing plans. Because of elements such as new taxes on insurance companies, insurers could change what they offer or how much it costs. Moreover, Democrats have proposed a series of changes to the Medicare program for people 65 and older that would certainly pinch benefits enjoyed by some seniors. The Congressional Budget Office has predicted cuts for those enrolled in private Medicare Advantage plans.

OBAMA: The president issued a populist broadside against lobbyists, saying they have "outsized influence" over the government. He said his administration has "excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs."

THE FACTS: ... seven waivers from the ban have been granted to White House officials alone.

OBAMA: "Because of the steps we took, there are about 2 million Americans working right now who would otherwise be unemployed. ...

THE FACTS: ... The number was based on self-reporting by recipients and some of the calculations were shown to be in error.


OBAMA: He called for action by the White House and Congress "to do our work openly, and to give our people the government they deserve."

THE FACTS: Obama skipped past a broken promise from his campaign to have the negotiations for health care legislation broadcast on C-SPAN "...Nor has Obama lived up consistently to his pledge to ensure that legislation is posted online for five days before it's acted upon.

OBAMA: "The United States and Russia are completing negotiations on the farthest-reaching arms control treaty in nearly two decades."

THE FACTS: Despite insisting early last year that they would complete the negotiations in time to avoid expiration of the 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty in early December, the U.S. and Russia failed to do so. And while officials say they think a deal on a new treaty is within reach, there has been no breakthrough.

OBAMA: ... "And in the last year, hundreds of al-Qaida's fighters and affiliates, including many senior leaders, have been captured or killed far more than in 2008."

THE FACTS: ...Neither the Bush nor the Obama administration has published enemy body counts...

LeeG
01-30-2010, 11:12 AM
Bob, you should sit back and with a cup of Chamomile tea and enjoy it.

Bob Smalser
01-30-2010, 11:17 AM
Bob, you should sit back and with a cup of Chamomile tea and enjoy it.

It's freshly-ground Kenyan coffee, and I'm enjoying all this rather thoroughly.

It proves the system. Either Obama moves to the center where the voters are, or he's history.

LeeG
01-30-2010, 11:35 AM
or the recent system of characterizing the opposition in extremes, "he's a socialist!", gets revealed for the self-defeating tactic that it is. How could Republicans consider compromising with a socialist and extreme leftist and retain their integrity with constituents?

Keith Wilson
01-30-2010, 11:37 AM
Half right, Bob. Right concept, wrong name. Either the Republican party will move to the center where the voters are, or they will be remain a minority party, the party of older southern white men. The long-term demographic trends are not in their favor.

elf
01-30-2010, 12:36 PM
Interesting that Bob's quote didn't use the entire sentence. Sorta pulls the bottom out of his cut and paste.

elf
01-30-2010, 12:37 PM
Next Mr. Obama needs to go have a heart-to-heart with the DINOs in Congress.

stumpbumper
01-30-2010, 01:44 PM
His remarks were "unscripted" and he definitely and effectively addressed the foul political atmostphere on both sides surrounding every issue with no regard for whether it would would help Americans. Some of his questioners came armed with lists and prepared speaches. He handled them well.

paul oman
01-30-2010, 02:31 PM
I suspect the Tea Party folks and the regular GOP will unite for the 2010 elections. Dems bitch that the GOP is leaderless, but that is good because the Dems cannot attack the lacking GOP leaders and can only go after non elected GOP folks like Sarah and Rush and those attacks do nothing.

Obama's recent comments show he is not going to shift to the center and adjust his stand on issues. Not a good thing for his party.

There is a saying that, "he who governs least, governs best." I agree. Best thing for the country would be to send Congress home for the rest of the year.

Too many elected folks (pres on down) feel the need to leave their thumbprint on everything. I'm sure many of you have had bosses that felt that way and know how bad that can make things in the workplace.

Bob Smalser
01-30-2010, 03:27 PM
Look Bob, GASP !!!! No teleprompter, and he was still freaking brilliant !!

Having since watched the tape, I think he did a good job, too....and we need more of it.

But his problem is, besides the AP catching him short on his "facts", the voters think he's lying. He has a long way to go to make up the current deficit in trust.




http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/january_2010/deficit_of_trust_most_voters_don_t_believe_preside nt_s_assertions_about_economy

Deficit of Trust: Most Voters Don’t Believe President’s Assertions About Economy



And complain all you want about Rasmussen, who was as close as any on the recent elections....just remember that not long ago the same people were complaining about Gallup. Consider how far shooting the messenger and demonizing tea party demonstrators as Astroturf and unAmerican got you in VA, NJ and MASS.

SMARTINSEN
01-30-2010, 03:28 PM
I found myself going, Damn he's good, damn he's good over and over.

You were watching Paul Pless, not Obama.

Bob Adams
01-30-2010, 04:47 PM
Damn Joe, I didn't know the Kool Aid came in Liberal flavor too!:p