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sdowney717
01-08-2010, 09:42 AM
This (from BBC)
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/040403_oil_war_bbc.html

OR this Russian Ukraine theory
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/davemcgowanstalinandabioticoil05mar05.shtml

curiouser and curiouser, Russian geologists, geophysicists say the debate is over, oil is made deep in the earth abiotically.


This is not, by the way, just a theoretical model that the Russians and Ukrainians have established; the theories were put to practical use, resulting in the transformation of the Soviet Union - once regarded as having limited prospects, at best, for successful petroleum exploration - into a world-class petroleum producing, and exporting, nation.alternatively we must pursue oil and warfare to gain control of oil producing nations.


If we run out of oil, in other words, our entire way of life will come crashing down. One of Ruppert's "unimpeachable sources," Colin Campbell, describes an apocalyptic future, just around the corner, that will be characterized by "war, starvation, economic recession, possibly even the extinction of homo sapiens." (http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/102302_campbell.html)

LeeG
01-08-2010, 09:51 AM
are you filling TDs spot?

donald branscom
01-08-2010, 10:09 AM
Many things left out of this discussion.
For instance synthetic oil. I already use a synthetic blend in MY car.
Also what about recycled oil. In the 1970's I did a report at the University of Arizona and there was only 40% of oil being recycled.

They never mention recycled oil. Do they?

AND oil can be made from compressed garbage.

At or near the end of WWII they already knew how to make gas.

The design of engines. Now plain bearings are used. Why not use Roller bearings for the bottom end ALSO and reduce the friction. use a dry sump system.
Reduce the friction,reduce the heat ,reduce the oil needed. Make oil coolers mandatory in the design of new cars. Make oil filters better. Etc.,etc.,.
We cannot just keep making engines the same way.

Remember I thought of it first.

LeeG
01-08-2010, 10:11 AM
remember D.Cheney famous words!

TimH
01-08-2010, 10:19 AM
http://goremasternews.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/mad-max.jpg

sdowney717
01-08-2010, 10:20 AM
interesting claim here
"That's 30 percent more than we humans have consumed over the entire petroleum era,"


In June 2003, Geotimes paid a visit to the Gulf of Mexico ("Raining Hydrocarbons in the Gulf"), and the story grew yet more compelling.
http://www.geotimes.org/june03/NN_gulf.html

"Below the Gulf of Mexico, hydrocarbons flow upward through an intricate network of conduits and reservoirs ... and this is all happening now, not millions and millions of years ago, says Larry Cathles, a chemical geologist at Cornell University. "We're dealing with this giant flow-through system where the hydrocarbons are generating now, moving through the overlying strata now, building the reservoirs now and spilling out into the ocean now," Cathles says. ...

Cathles and his team estimate that in a study area of about 9,600 square miles off the coast of Louisiana [including Eugene Island 330], source rocks a dozen kilometers [roughly seven miles] down have generated as much as 184 billion tons of oil and gas -- about 1,000 billion barrels of oil and gas equivalent. "That's 30 percent more than we humans have consumed over the entire petroleum era," Cathles say. "And that's just this one little postage stamp area; if this is going on worldwide, then there's a lot of hydrocarbons venting out."

LeeG
01-08-2010, 10:30 AM
Looking for reserves bigger than what's on shore, I wonder why?


interesting claim here
"That's 30 percent more than we humans have consumed over the entire petroleum era,"

"All the players are looking for bigger reserves than what's on shore," Colling says. And deep water changes the business plan. With each well a multibillion dollar investment, the discovery must amount to at least several hundred million barrels of oil and gas for the drilling to be economic"

LeeG
01-08-2010, 10:36 AM
SDowney, interesting company comes up when googling: peak oil Larry Cathles

Popeye
01-08-2010, 10:37 AM
poo poo poo poo

poo-pooing poo poo
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LeeG
01-08-2010, 10:50 AM
http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/4/2007/06/1-1.jpg

LeeG
01-08-2010, 10:52 AM
http://www.wired.com/images/slideshow/2009/04/gallery_car_museum/1.jpg

LeeG
01-08-2010, 10:54 AM
http://www.bloodygoodhorror.com/bgh/files/the-jetsons.jpg

LeeG
01-08-2010, 10:57 AM
abiotic oil, that was Tinmans fun topic. He never did come up with the basis for his refilling oil fields.

TimH
01-08-2010, 12:50 PM
What is this?



http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/4/2007/06/1-1.jpg

LeeG
01-08-2010, 01:27 PM
submarine I think. Funny the things that come up on Google image search for nuclear car