Stolen Wharram Tangaroa 35ft

[rickyj]

Hello fellow member of this forum, My name is Richard Jeschek,I wish you all a merry festive season.

I own a 36ft Tangaroa which has been stolen in Miami by a delivery captain whose name is Robert Edinger, last comunication sept 9 2009,supposedley from Exuma in the Bahamas,but boat could be anywhere on east coast or Caribean.As a matter of fact I have recieved news it was seen Dec16 at anchor near Gilberts Marina south of Key Largo. I am offering a 1000usd reward for information leading to the recovery of the boat

[rickyj]

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/richardlisab/RobertThief.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/richardlisab/PA150098.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/richardlisab/P5220715.jpg

[floatingkiwi]

Merry festive season to you too there Richard. I agree with previous. Very distinctive hull(s) and an equally distinctive looking piece of s**t to look right out of place on her. Post this info in as many places as you possibly can.( I am sure you are). There should be others along with helpful ideas from experience.
That is the best you can do, so don't add worry to you task. If it is meant to be, it's as good as on the way back to you mate.

[floatingkiwi]

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/richardlisab/RobertThief.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/richardlisab/PA150098.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/richardlisab/P5220715.jpg

There you go mate. I hope you don't mind me taking the liberty to post these more visibly.

[Hwyl]

Delivery skippers are the scum of the earth.

[johngsandusky]

You should put it on craigslist in S Florida and on Sailnet.

[StevenBauer]

Hit all the sailing forums, Latitudes and Attitudes, Sailing Anarchy, Sailnet, Cruisers and Sailors Forum, Anything Sailing. Someone has seen her, you'll get her back.






Steven

[sailboy3]

If he was stupid enough to steal a one-of-a-kind boat like that, then he cant be smart enough to evade the law for very long.

[JimConlin]

RBGarr- was you brother's Cheoy Lee ever found?

[SchoonerRat]

Delivery skippers are the scum of the earth.
Are you being sarcastic, or should I be offended?

[Hwyl]

Are you being sarcastic, or should I be offended?

I'm one of the ilk

[SchoonerRat]

I'm one of the ilk
In that case, I'm afraid I must say that I resemble that remark!

[Ian McColgin]

Maybe Edinger will change her name to "Barratry."

Hope you get her back.

G'luck

[rbgarr]

RBGarr- was you brother's Cheoy Lee ever found?

No sign of it.

[Hwyl]

In that case, I'm afraid I must say that I resemble that remark!

Then you must also think there's more to this story than meets the eye.

[SchoonerRat]

Then you must also think there's more to this story than meets the eye.
Indeed! How did the owner find this "skipper"? I've never gotten a delivery without either knowing the owner or being recommended by somebody who knew me and the owner.

Sept. 9 - That's a long time for such a distinctive boat to be missing. Sexual offender is not the best experience to qualify one as a delivery skipper, maybe he's just lost.

[Hwyl]

I cast my net a bit wider, but I come with a pretty heavy duty set of references. I also sail with a "Find me Spot" so the owner always knows where the boat is.

[elf]

Indeed! How did the owner find this "skipper"? I've never gotten a delivery without either knowing the owner or being recommended by somebody who knew me and the owner.

Sept. 9 - That's a long time for such a distinctive boat to be missing. Sexual offender is not the best experience to qualify one as a delivery skipper, maybe he's just lost.

Maybe he's in jail and the boat's been confiscated by whatever police department.

[rickyj]

He´s not in jail, checked that out. I hired him because he was the middleman , or broker of the sail and had I been allowed to enter the USA I would have sailed her myself. The guy has been trouble from day 1. The boat was seen Dec. 16th,south of Gilberts Marina in key Largo Florida.
I didn´t know of his credentials till ,I started my search on internet.

[The Bigfella]

had I been allowed to enter the USA I would have sailed her myself


The mind boggles

[Mrleft8]

The plot thickens.....

[donald branscom]

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/richardlisab/RobertThief.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/richardlisab/PA150098.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/richardlisab/P5220715.jpg

There you go mate. I hope you don't mind me taking the liberty to post these more visibly.

You have all you need right now.
Just go to or contact the Dept of Justice in your state and they will call him in.
Piece of cake.

Was there a GPS aboard??? HEHEhhehheheh

[PeterSibley]

A good looking Wharram ...I wish you good luck !

[rickyj]

If I were in one of the states yes, But I live in Spain . A bit more complicated for me.

[rickyj]

The adress where he is registered is not correct, hasn´t been for years but police inteligence keeps giving it as correct. No wonder they can´t catch him. I have info, could be wrong , but someone says he lives at Miami Marine Stadium

[sailboy3]

Would it be possible to have someone in the states do it for you?

[donald branscom]

The adress where he is registered is not correct, hasn´t been for years but police inteligence keeps giving it as correct. No wonder they can´t catch him. I have info, could be wrong , but someone says he lives at Miami Marine Stadium

Ar the police there too lazy to contact Miami police? Or is it a jurisdictional political problem?

[Ian McColgin]

Back to post 12, please.

[rickyj]

Juristictional problem
I had to get the previous owner of the boat to make the police report, won´t accept one fron anyone who is not a resident.

[donald branscom]

The mind boggles

And WHY were you not allowed into the USA??
The guy that took your boat was blonde and dyed his hair black and the police records show that.
It says so on the police report.
So that means the photo is up to date?

[donald branscom]

Are you being sarcastic, or should I be offended?

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

Some have beheld very little, or been no where.

[donald branscom]

Edinger' s permanent address is:


3774 SW 27th Ln Frnt
Miami, FL 33134-7222
Miami-Dade COUNTY

[donald branscom]

I called the DADE County police and gave them all the info.

They said I can call back in a couple weeks and find out the results.
I was given a TIP # to refer to. But Richard is going to have to get in touch with the DADE county officials or something or visa versa to get his boat if they recover it. Should not be a problem.

Thats all I can say on the internet.

Wish I could say more but..

[Earl]

Rickyj,
I found two address'es on the guy. I think the first one might be the best as it had his birthdate.
Robert T. Edinger
4191 Ingraham Hwy.
Miami, Fl. 33133

Robert T. Edinger
2280 11th. st.
Miami, Fl, 33135


I hope that helps you some. Good luck.

Earl in Elwood, Indiana

[Mrleft8]

Yanno..... The WBF could be in big trouble if this turns out to be something other than what has been described. If this Erdinger guy is innocent, and just being set up by "Rickyj" for some personal vendetta, I'd say he's got one hell of a libel suit all drawn up for him....

[Stan D]

That Florida Sexual Offenders website would be difficult to fake. Not impossible, but difficult. And I'm not talking about the image posted here. Google the guys name, and it will take you there.

[donald branscom]

That Florida Sexual Offenders website would be difficult to fake. Not impossible, but difficult. And I'm not talking about the image posted here. Google the guys name, and it will take you there.

He is a scorpio. But lets wait and see what the facts are.
And where is Richard J now?

[rickyj]

Richard Had to travel to Barcelona , He´s online now and will be after he arrives back in Gandia 350mi, drive. I´ll be back to answer any questions at 8 O´clock Eastern standard time. Thank you for all the help, all of you.
There is no vendeta, I am writing this fool daily to see if he responds.I hate to drag anyones name through this,

[donald branscom]

Richard Had to travel to Barcelona , He´s online now and will be after he arrives back in Gandia 350mi, drive. I´ll be back to answer any questions at 8 O´clock Eastern standard time. Thank you for all the help, all of you.
There is no vendeta, I am writing this fool daily to see if he responds.I hate to drag anyones name through this,

If I actually find the boat how do I know I will get paid?

[floatingkiwi]

Cat got ya tongue?

[Chris Coose]

Looking around for a coast guard list of licensed captains. Does not seem to exist.
In professional licensing in the state of Maine there exists boards for each disipline, where a complaint may be filed, reviewed and acted upon if necessary.
Disiplinary actions are published for the consumer review.

Don't have any idea how the CG would protect consumers from child molesting captain boat thieves.

[rickyj]

Just got back
If youfind the boat, I hope you do , I´ll get you the money any way you like.bank ntransfer, Paypal;.....you name it

[Ian McColgin]

No list of licenced operators and masters but obtaining any ticket requires a criminal records check and any conviction means surrender of the ticket.

[Roger Long]

You should contact Seatow and Towboat US. These outfits are all over the place and should have the means to distribute information about your boat to all their operators. They are in the boat rescue business and this should count.

http://www.4seatow.com/

http://www.boatus.com/Towing/

If the boat is in an area they operate, they should spot it.

[rickyj]

I think that was the best idea I heard

Thanks a Million, and may all have great NEW YEAR 2010

and fair winds to you all

[donald branscom]

Just got back
If youfind the boat, I hope you do , I´ll get you the money any way you like.bank ntransfer, Paypal;.....you name it

Thanks for reporting back RickyJ. Thanks for the quick response.
Sincerely, Don
4191 Ingraham Hwy.
Miami, Fl. 33133 Does not seem to exsist. 4190 is a corner lot and then you hit Sunshine st.
It is not on the other side of the road either. And it is not on the same side of the road further down.

The other address 3774 SW 27th Ln Frnt Miami, FL. is also bogus. it is an empty lot between 3772 and 3776. It is not on the opposite side of the street either.

[rickyj]

Hello again ,

I am very grateful for the tremendous response I have gotten from all of you. I have taken your advise, listed in all the forums I could find, sent fotos to seatow, sent fotos and info to all the marinas in frorida, but I´m sad to say, I have still not found the boat.

[PeterSibley]

Have you tried the Wharram Forum ..those guys really love their Worry Cats ...maybe you're a member already ?

I really wish you luck ,she's a lovely boat !:)

[Larks]

Best of luck with this RickyJ, the Wharram forum doesn't look like it is regularly visited. How about Sailing Anarchy?

http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?act=idx

[Thorne]

Consider putting up a simple webpage with all the above info, particularly photos of the boat and the delivery skipper. Put your contact info on the page along with other contacts like the police.

Easier to post / email an URL than links to separate images. Also easier to update with new info -- and hopefully a happy ending with the boat being recovered. Best of luck!

[LongIslandBoy]

Guys, I've gone through all the posts, but I didn't see the name of the missing cat. Anybody know it?

[Wild Dingo]

Having just read through this thread and viewed the pics I cant for the life of me see the boats name or registration numbers (I thought they were a must have legal requirement?) perhaps if they were here actually thinking about it if they were ON the boat clearly visible it might help a lot more... unique looking Wharram by the way ;)

I was a tad worried for a second there reading Garreths posts... he being a delivery capn of some international fame :cool:

Ricky hows it going? Any word on the boat or the dip**** that took it?

Heres to a speedy recovery... be a tad more careful about your choice of delivery capn from here on Id say eh!

[Stiletto]

It is odd that the name hasnt been mentioned.

[Mrleft8]

The whole story is "odd".

[JimConlin]

The whole story is "odd".

I agree

[Mrleft8]

Notice that we have no boat name, a prominent police dept. photo,and name and address of the guy, a description of the guy, but not the boat, and an "owner" apparently out of country and unable to get a visa. Not to mention that the original poster has apparently abandoned the thread. Sounds like a smear campaign to me.

[seedy]

http://www.seafaring.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16766&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180

I'm not in this rodeo in any way, third post on the page linked above.

[Duncan Gibbs]

http://e-biscuit.com/images/uploads/iseedumbpeopleig0.jpg

[donald branscom]

Notice that we have no boat name, a prominent police dept. photo,and name and address of the guy, a description of the guy, but not the boat, and an "owner" apparently out of country and unable to get a visa. Not to mention that the original poster has apparently abandoned the thread. Sounds like a smear campaign to me.

The name of the person that supposedly stole the boat was given. NONE of his 3 addresses checked out. All bogus.
The DADE county sheriffs is looking into it I was told. You need to go to the original post and re- read it all .

It is the second posting by a forum member asking for help that was out of the country and unable to get a visa.

[donald branscom]

I filed a report with the Dade county sheriff's office. They gave me a case number when this was first posted. I checked today and left a message to be returned as to what they found out.
They should be able to contact this guy and find out where the boat is.

[Steve Paskey]

Check out this discussion at Sailing Anarchy:
www.seafaring.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16766&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180

According to folks there, it's said that the "owner" of this boat can't get into the U.S. because he allegedly has been involved in drug smuggling in Columbia, and at the time of the alleged theft of the boat by a convicted sex-offender posing as a "delivery skipper" the boat was allegedly loaded with several TONS of cocaine ...

[Canoeyawl]

A good reason to keep sniffin' around...

[JimConlin]

A good reason to keep sniffin' around...

Groan!

[Steve Paskey]

A good reason to keep sniffin' around...

Yes, but what would you be looking for? As one of the folks on sailing anarchy explained:


Well lets see if I have this straight. A year ago, a boat in Florida was sold by a woman in Michigan sight unseen to a man in Spain, by a middleman in prison (his release photo was taken 8/25/2009) who was to captain it to somewhere. It is 'registered' at a Yacht Club in Austria, was retrieved once by the USCG and returned to a convicted felon to sail away without a U.S. registration and with the OK of the new owner. This felon, after stealing the boat, walked into a police station and registered his home address. Rickyj's cousin, who was not available to meet with anyone here about the boat, drove by the house and found it abandoned for 'years' but BigAl saw Christmas lights on the same house. The Miami police no longer accept criminal reports from anyone who is not a US citizen, and the boat, listed as built in 1982 and 34 feet 2 inches on the Michigan title and as 35 feet here is listed by Rickyj on www.cruisincats.com as a 36 footer built in 1990....

Did I miss anything?

[johngsandusky]

This is sounding like a movie. Someone should write the book.

[OconeePirate]

Anyway... so if I find the boat, do I get to keep the marching powder?

What actually confuses is me is that the original poster hasn't responded here, but has had time to post his story (with changes?) elsewhere.

[Mrleft8]

Anyway... so if I find the boat, do I get to keep the marching powder?

What actually confuses is me is that the original poster hasn't responded here, but has had time to post his story (with changes?) elsewhere.

As I said at the begining, I think this is a fabrication intended soley to "out" the supposed boat theif as a sex offender.

[donald branscom]

Richard Jeschek,

What is your middle name? OR initial????
Need to find out.


Another question . Did YOU build your boat???