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BarnacleGrim
12-24-2009, 07:39 PM
Lately I've been toying with the idea of getting an old truck, a 1970's Chevy or something. It would be fun to use it around the house, hauling stuff, keeping my tools when helping out around the neighbourhood, or to just cruise around in the summer with some country music on the stereo.

I have a fear it may turn out to be more trouble and use up a lot of petrol than it's worth, but I live in the countryside, and sometimes I get that nice redneck feeling. I've already decided to get a porch swing, and I'm going to sit in it drinking whisky and referring to the property as a 'ranch'. :D

BrianW
12-24-2009, 07:50 PM
Get a diesel and brew your own.

paladin
12-24-2009, 08:10 PM
I had an old Ford Econoline pickup, 6 cyl in line engine,,,beefed up the front suspension, removed the pick-up bed, made a bed like a tractor trailer wit a fifth wheel, dual tires on the rear, exhaust stacks up the sides behind the doors, big saddle type fuel tanks...it was small like a Japanese pickup, but looked like a big rig cross country truck.

paladin
12-24-2009, 08:17 PM
Something like this on a regular pickup chassis....
http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp154/paladinsfo1/lilbigrig.jpg

Harbormaster
12-24-2009, 09:04 PM
Man, I'd put up a picture of my old Willys pickup, but I don't have any with a good looking woman like that. I give, you win.

cathouse willy
12-24-2009, 09:40 PM
When you say old trucks are you talking classics or just plain old and ugly? I drive later 1980's fords because they're cheap,plentiful and reliable, classic they're not.Ford's 300 ci straight 6 is a long time ford offering and is a classic in it's own right.

Shang
12-24-2009, 10:00 PM
I had a five-window Dodge... or maybe it was six-window, it depends on where you were counting from. On the registration papers the word "junked" appeared frequently.
When I went to the sand 'n' gravel place I told them to "fill 'er up," and Blue tilted so that the front wheels only touched the ground occasionally. "Ol' Blue" (which was actually kind of blue and rust) helped us move to our new farm-stead.
Ultimately the Dodge was subsumed in a landfilll that served in our own steep driveway, but I miss Ol Blue yet .

PeterSibley
12-24-2009, 10:11 PM
$200 buys a good 4x4 diesel , a little slow but a good engine and box .

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL282/9443996/17245530/380102867.jpg

cathouse willy
12-24-2009, 10:19 PM
The present ugly old truck is an 88 f250 with the 7.3 l diesel.It's a bit rusty and carries a small camper full time.They don't get much worse.

PeterSibley
12-24-2009, 10:25 PM
7.3 ?? you'd really be looking at biodiesel eh ? The yellow one is 1.9 litre !

BETTY-B
12-24-2009, 10:35 PM
You guys are talking old trucks, the trucks that have been my daily drivers since they were just used trucks! I've had one F250 or another for over twenty years. '75-'77's. Some 4x4's and mostly 460s(7.53 liters). Reliable and super easy to work on. There will be a supply of late '73 through early '79 parts, forever.

So when you say old trucks, I think old trucks. Two weeks ago I came within inches of buying a 1934 Diamond T. God I'm a dumb ass. Actually, I didn't buy it. So, I'm pretty smart really.


A small bit of cedar a couple weeks back:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d10/Bridgedeck/DANandULA/P1010426.jpg

PeterSibley
12-24-2009, 10:50 PM
Hey ! a good load , I'm sick of seeing big powerful trucks with 1/2 ton of trade tools in the back !.... but it'd more about springs,shockers and tyres than engines .

purri
12-25-2009, 03:52 AM
Meh, you call that minimalist!

I use a bauhaus kinda thing, a VW country buggy

PeterSibley
12-25-2009, 04:05 AM
Minimalist , yep ...but I do like something that will actually carry a load !

BarnacleGrim
12-25-2009, 05:26 AM
I found this 1977 one for 26000 SEK, that's $3570

http://213.132.112.100/images/01/0116965379.jpg

It's a petrol V8 in "hilbilly condition" according to the ad. It seems expensive to me, but old American cars are in high demand here. A much newer Japanese truck would cost only a small fraction of that. Not to mention the compact Škoda pickup, but that's just not the same thing.

heimlaga
12-25-2009, 06:54 AM
Pick-ups are only for city juppies. A real man has an old tractor ;)

Well....humour aside you describe the use for an old farm tractor. Hauling things around home and cruising about the village for fun sounds right. A farm tractor with proper 3 point hitch is a versatile tool for many other uses as well. They are easy to repair and parts are easy to find for some makes but not for all.

I myself bought a Massey-Ferguson 165 year model 1971 about one and a half year ago and have fixed it up a bit and use it a lot. I have not regretted the purchase.

Some good excamples:
http://www.blocket.se/alvsborg/Traktor_Mc_Cormick_International__diesel_1969_2447 1786.htm?ca=20&w=2

http://www.blocket.se/goteborg/Massey_Ferguson_35_fran_1958_24554649.htm?ca=20&w=2

http://www.blocket.se/halland/MF___Massey_Ferguson_35x__3_cyl_62_66__17500_24682 168.htm?ca=20&w=2

BarnacleGrim
12-25-2009, 07:05 AM
Tractors are nice, but they won't make it on the E6 on the way to the big box stores.

heimlaga
12-25-2009, 07:40 AM
You are right....

Except an aquintance who has been sighted overtaking cars going at 80 kilometers per hour with his Fordson Major;)

Paul Pless
12-25-2009, 08:04 AM
I found this 1977 one for 26000 SEK, that's $3570

http://213.132.112.100/images/01/0116965379.jpg

If you're gonna do it, you may as well go all out and go at least one generation earlier. Here's a 1964 model, available with either a 230 cu in straight six, or a 283 or 327 cu in V8.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/1964_chevy.png

mmd
12-25-2009, 09:25 AM
My '87 is nearing the end of its useful life, so I've been thinking of replacing it with one created the same year I was.

http://image.automotive.com/f/featuredvehicles/9769866+pheader/0607cct_01_z+1955_chevy_stepside_truck+.jpg

McMike
12-25-2009, 09:26 AM
My '87 is nearing the end of its useful life, so I've been thinking of replacing it with one created the same year I was.

http://image.automotive.com/f/featuredvehicles/9769866+pheader/0607cct_01_z+1955_chevy_stepside_truck+.jpg


Me likes!

BETTY-B
12-25-2009, 09:29 AM
1934 Diamond T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgJ-FheSUNI

Chrysler M8:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d10/Bridgedeck/BETTY-B/Chrysler%20Royal%20M8/th_P1010413.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d10/Bridgedeck/BETTY-B/Chrysler%20Royal%20M8/?action=view&current=P1010413.flv)

rbgarr
12-25-2009, 10:08 AM
Lately I've been toying with the idea of getting an old truck, a 1970's Chevy or something. It would be fun to use it around the house, hauling stuff, keeping my tools when helping out around the neighbourhood, or to just cruise around in the summer with some country music on the stereo.

I have a fear it may turn out to be more trouble and use up a lot of petrol than it's worth, but I live in the countryside, and sometimes I get that nice redneck feeling. I've already decided to get a porch swing, and I'm going to sit in it drinking whisky and referring to the property as a 'ranch'. :D

The popularity of American cars, trucks and country western music in Europe gives me a chuckle. Be sure to get a cowboy hat and boots to go with the truck. A rifle on a rack and carton of Marlboros on the floor, too! :D

wizbang 13
12-25-2009, 12:28 PM
54 International is mine. Actually it's a 54,56, 61,65,and 70. And an Internetional, Ford, Toyota and VW(wipers)

TimH
12-25-2009, 01:44 PM
I have had several early 70s F100s.

I wouldnt mond having a slightly older one though

http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classics/photos/106500/106964.1964.Ford.F-100.Pickup.jpg

bobbys
12-25-2009, 02:08 PM
I would think a 67 to 72 chevy would be just the ticket to haul around the Swedish Bikini team.

According to beer commercials i have seen there frolicking everywhere over there in Bikini's and dancing around kegs of beer

One should be prepared to give them a lift into town if need be..

I cant believe how lucky you are!

Captain Blight
12-25-2009, 04:28 PM
My '87 is nearing the end of its useful life, so I've been thinking of replacing it with one created the same year I was.

http://gb.fotolibra.com/images/previews/407003-ford-model-t-pick-up-truck.jpegFixed that for ya

The Bigfella
12-25-2009, 06:57 PM
Build your own.... this is a friend's baby Kenworth that he built.... powered by a 4-53 Detroit. He used a Ford F350 chassis IIRC.

I've been sitting at an outdoor cafe when he went past and I turned around to see what sort of motorbike it was coming up the road. It sounds great. He's taken the sleeping box off the back now.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/igatenby/babykw1.jpg

seanz
12-25-2009, 08:16 PM
You are right....

Except an aquintance who has been sighted overtaking cars going at 80 kilometers per hour with his Fordson Major;)

Flathead V8?

Davy Jones
12-25-2009, 08:34 PM
Here is one of my old dudes I just traded off for a restored 1947 Farmall cub tractor, It was a 1973 F100 flat bed with a 302 and a three speed on the floor. We used it around the farm for a year or so. It came in pretty handy hauling feed and hay and such. We own a horse boarding facility so lots of trading go's on here! I really need a dump truck so I put it on Craigs list and traded it for the tractor. Great trade for me since the tractor was wort a lot more than the truck! Now I need to turn the tractor in to a dump truck. Back to Craigs list!


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/chardavej/DSCN2551.jpg

Three Cedars
12-25-2009, 09:08 PM
My cousin had a 59 Chev Apache , great truck until he drained the oil and said to his Mom , " don't let anyone borrow the truck while I go to town and get a new filter " . Sure enough , a neighbour comes over and decides to borrow the truck , it didn't need a key to start it and the liquor store was a good walk away ... must have been at least a mile , anyway the truck made it there and back with considerable groaning on the return trip. My cousin was fatalistic after a brief moment of anger so he added oil , put on the new filter and while the truck started but was never the same , it gave up the ghost a few weeks later dropping shrapnel along the highway as he coasted to a stop and hitched a ride home....

I don't think there is any pickup prettier than a shiny 58 Apache

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Reddog12/800px-1958_Chevrolet_Apache.jpg

coelacanth2
12-25-2009, 10:51 PM
I had a '68 beater with 250 and 3 on the tree with 4.11 gears in the back, followed by a '74 with 454 and 400 automatic. 74 rusted to death, Gm bought some poorly alloyed steel for the bodies from 74 to about 84 or so. Big blocks were pretty much bulletproof, a lot of the late 70s early 80s small block V8ss (305s and 350s) had massive durability problems, esp very soft camshafts which would grind out and load the rest of the motor with shavings. Mom's 79 Impala and a friend's 81 C10 pickup both went the same way at about 60,000 miles. Older Ford pickups had this "Twin I-Beam" front suspension that, while durable, was VERY hard on tires engines and bodies much better. Dodges of that era (I had an 84 w100 4WD with small block and 4 speed manual) didn't rust much and seemed pretty good on the drivetrain reliability front. If you do anything off road-ish or anticipate winter weather driving, minimal equipment is a limited slip diff and aggressive snow tires and 500 to 600 lbs. over the rear axle. A solid axle Ford or Dodge 4WD will last just about forever, esp with a 3 speed automatic. Gas mileage will not be great (though my Dodge pulled 20-22 on the highway at 60 or under) but if its not your daily long distance commuter, who cares? When Dodge started making the "Magnum" engines, power went up tremendously, economy REALLY SUCKED. If you can find an F250 4wd solid front axle with the 6 and a manual, that's a great work truck. Same for a Dodge 1/2 ton 4wd with 6 and a stick, it will be 84 or earlier as after that all 4wd got V8 motors. Late 60''s Chevy 4wd will be just about bulletproof, and monkeys in the zoo could fix it with stones and a multitool. Older full size Jeep pickups (not the Comanche) are quite good off road, but have some reliability challenges. Those, the Grand Wagoneer Jeeps and some Dodges could be had with the Quadra-trac full time 4wd setup which was quite interesting, as it forshadowed the Audi/Subaru/Mitsubishi systems which make for such high limits and relatively forgiving handling. I knew a guy who had a Quadratrac stepside Dodge with a 360, surprisingly quick and competent in the corners for a tall, solid axle 3/4 ton truck. Nice thing about most of those vehicles is that spares are readily available.

Bob Adams
12-25-2009, 11:08 PM
You got how much MPG from an 84 Dodge 4X4? I have my father's 85 that while a very capable truck, never gets more than12. Your right about the Magnums, I just traded a Durango that would pass anything but a gas station for a Chevy Trailblazer.

coelacanth2
12-25-2009, 11:15 PM
It had a little 2 bbl carb, as long as I ran on the primary, it was reasonable. Stayed good until it hit about 150k mils, gradually went down into the middle teens. Still running around a neighbor's farm, 230k or so, original clutch. Manual trans made a huge difference in those trucks.

StevenBauer
12-25-2009, 11:42 PM
I used to have a 1966 Ford 100 with the twin I beam suspension. Lots of chrome and even a driver side spotlight, too. I think it had a 351 V8 with three speed shift on the column. Man that truck would fly. It was all original, too, only 60k miles or so. I wanted to cry when a huge tree branch fell on it in a thunderstorm. Insurance paid to fix it up but it was never quite the same. I have pics somewhere, I'd have to find them and scan them in.

bobbys
12-26-2009, 02:22 AM
You got how much MPG from an 84 Dodge 4X4? I have my father's 85 that while a very capable truck, never gets more than12. Your right about the Magnums, I just traded a Durango that would pass anything but a gas station for a Chevy Trailblazer..

My 1983 dodge 4wd one ton with a 360 and a carb got 15 at the very best.

My 1989 dodge i own now with 4wd and a 318 with throttle body gets 11 at the best.

Both automatics.

My 89 keeps going and going but its paid for..

Most reliable truck i have ever owned..

Im very impressed with the bodies, I clam dig on the salty beach and not much rust except for brake lines which disintegrate.

PeterSibley
12-26-2009, 03:24 AM
You guys are really really kidding with these mpg numbers ??? :eek:

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
12-26-2009, 06:20 AM
I saw what might be good deal on a very late model Chevy pickup last night, less than 4 years old and in the $5000 range, I didn't stop to look closer. Not the charm (or simplicity) of a '69, but probably half the fuel consumption. But I have really been seeing deals on used diesel box trucks lately, as I have been mentioning to Shane. Been seeing them go for about half what they would normally go for in a good economy. Would have grabbed one if I had a place to store it.

cookie
12-26-2009, 06:51 AM
C'mon Barnacle, get yourself a nice old Scania or Volvo!

US trucks are a good choice for the US, but heavily over priced in the EU and a pain for maintenance and finding spares. You would need a whole new set of tools too for only your 13mm spanner will fit on them imperial nuts and bolts :eek:

mmd
12-26-2009, 08:32 AM
Blighty, you are a mean little whippersnapper! <wink, grin>

Tom Robb
12-26-2009, 01:14 PM
A truck to haul stuff is one thing, but poser chic -boots n hat, chaw in yer cheek? Good grief.