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Paulyboy
08-01-2005, 10:30 AM
I seem to recall seeing some pics last year in this section on a strip built boat that was probably 16 to 20 feet long and about 4 feet wide, but built like a strip built canoe. It had a transom on it with a small outbaord. Anyone have any ideas of what it was, or where to find pics?
http://www.newfound.com/minigrandlaker.htm
Venchka
08-01-2005, 10:44 AM
Don Kurylko's Alaska comes to mind. The beam is a bit over 4'.
Alaska (http://www.dhkurylko-yachtdesign.com/designs.htm)
http://www.dhkurylko-yachtdesign.com/alaska_images/Alaska%20030.jpg
Alaska has travelled from Washington to Alaska and back.
Of course, a big freighter canoe fits the description.
Wayne
In the Swamp. :D
[ 08-01-2005, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: Venchka ]
Todd Bradshaw
08-01-2005, 11:03 AM
Here is another one based on the old freight canoes which is a pretty good boat. Building instructions and full-sized mold sections are available if you spend about $20 for a copy of "The Stripper's Guide to Canoe Building" by Hazen.
http://www.peak.org/~innercom/Canoe/journal.html
mike from Boston
08-02-2005, 12:30 PM
Check out these bad boys. I saw them at a shop in Maine when I was fishing the Alagash. Very sweet boats, and not too expensive.
http://www.nor-west.ca/athabaskae.htm
Cheers,
Mike
I think Newfound's version of a Rangeley showed up here last year, there's a 17 footer too:
http://www.newfound.com/rangeley.htm
Paulyboy
08-02-2005, 03:18 PM
The link above this reply is closer to what I remember. Although it seems the boat in mind was more of a boat than a canoe, the canoes with a 48 to 52 in beam are surely wide enuff for my wideglide! Thanks guys!
Could have been a Cosine Wherry.
Ed Solomon
08-03-2005, 01:32 PM
Maybe Robb White's Sport Boat? (http://www.robbwhite.com/sportboat.html)
Rangeley Lake Boat from Newfound Woodworks, the New Hampshire kit builder whose link is above.
Can accomodate 2HP outboard according to the Coast Guard capacity label that comes with the kit. Made with cedar strips glued with Titebond I and then covered with 6 oz glass and epoxy. The Titebond and Mas epoxy get along quite well, thankyou.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid174/p1719760c992b4af5f7838a785b83ed1b/f396e0c0.jpg
Sixteen feet long with a 48" beam. About 100 lbs.
Love to row it with Pete Culler designed oars.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid174/p996aeeca0c1781a1b354d5cc6489515d/f396e0b4.jpg
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Todd Bradshaw
08-03-2005, 10:40 PM
I'm kind of partial to those Nor-West freighters like the 24' model that will take a 40-60 HP outboard. Now that's a seriously powerful canoe!
http://www.nor-west.ca/artice.htm
mbogo
08-05-2005, 10:06 AM
Compumarine has some interesting stuff:
The classic dingy (http://www.compumarine.com/classic_dinghy.htm) comes to mind. I also like their Fisherman and the canoe design.
Paulyboy
08-05-2005, 02:08 PM
Gettin' closer! The boat I remember seeing was longer, wider....still strip built, but more along the shape and size of one of those *&*##@ aluminum "row boats" that are 20 feet long and wide enuff for a big fat arse like mine. Did I mention the trip to Sebago one year where I managed to dump one of those, a kayak, a rowing rig and a strip built canoe all in a matter of 1 hour. Sploosh, right over the side and into the lake with me!I'm a good 6"1" and about 385, imagine the likes of me swimming after my Li'l Kooler as it floats away from yet another Paulyboy maritime disaster. My teen son laughed so hard from his own canoe that he ended up in the drink too!
MarkC
08-05-2005, 11:42 PM
It was Robb White's sport boat then.
On his site is a strip-planked version.
Ankle Deep
08-06-2005, 01:54 AM
Paulyboy-
I recently completed a strip built square stern canoe (some say it's a boat) that is 24' with a 5' beam. It carries a 30 hp Honda outboard and performs well on the big rivers near my home. I'm willing to post a picture if someone can give me a few pointers.
Paulyboy
08-06-2005, 11:03 AM
Hey, Deep, thats what I'm talking about. I don't know any pointers cuz I haven't had anything worthy of pictures yet, but I know someone can.
Ankle Deep
08-06-2005, 09:49 PM
Paulyboy-
Here are a couple of photos:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid180/p27b4d1123a7d3ab4a1cb1f65b8b6cdda/f2f0a698.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid180/p690f06aa6eeeb6759848498e0d654c00/f2f0a545.jpg
These so called wide stern canoes, or whatever they are, are they actually any good to paddle? Even with several paddlers? How could they be with sterns like that? They are faux canoes, really planing hull power boats with canoe-ish bows. Yes? (I guess this is already obvious to everyone except me :D )
Paulyboy
08-08-2005, 09:46 AM
I would think that one good double ended LONG paddle would work. The other thing would be short oars and oar locks. These pics are great........thats my kind of economically challenged drool matter. Can't affors to sail the yachts, or even the big power boats, but I CAN build one of them thar boats! Thanks guys!
ReedTedrick
08-08-2005, 10:42 AM
is the dolly varden close to what you're looking for? see: http://www.dngoodchild.com/5081.htm
Reed
Originally posted by Paulyboy:
I would think that one good double ended LONG paddle would work. The other thing would be short oars and oar locks. These pics are great........thats my kind of economically challenged drool matter. Can't affors to sail the yachts, or even the big power boats, but I CAN build one of them thar boats! Thanks guys!I was thinking that a wide, flat transom would create a lot of drag for rowing or paddling but provide the boyancy for a motor, hence such a design is really a motor boat no matter what the bow looks like, whereas a design with a transom but still a fine Whitehall-ish exit would paddle/row much better and if the hull is big enough it could still support a motor.
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