stambaugh's trailer sailer 32

[lorencharter]

What is your opinion on Stambough's Trailer Sailer 32? I was thinking of it for use on the Mexican Caribe and the Sea of Cortez. I know it's a big job trailering but I'm more interested in your thoughts on it's seaworthness.

[JimD]

I can't offer an opinion on your question, but I'm glad to see it has an option to position the leeboards inside as bilge boards. The boat has such a lovely profile without the boards. Do you really care about trailering at all? That's a fair sized boat and there's probably a number of other designs to consider.

[lorencharter]

Originally posted by JimD:
I can't offer an opinion on your question, but I'm glad to see it has an option to position the leeboards inside as bilge boards. The boat has such a lovely profile without the boards. Do you really care about trailering at all? That's a fair sized boat and there's probably a number of other designs to consider.

[lorencharter]

i really like the trailering idea. Otherwise I like parkers presto or some similar shoal draft boat.

[Hwyl]

Here's a picture

http://www.cmdboats.com/images/trailersailer32_profile.jpg

and a link I like this idea. (http://www.cmdboats.com/trailersailer32.htm?cart_id=9dd27fca7059818c231446 9e41f192d3)

The aft cabin is a little silly.

[ 03-14-2005, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: Hwyl ]

[Jack Heinlen]

Thanks for the pic Gareth. Is that an aft cabin? I assumed a motor well and stowage.

Nice looking boat. Better have a special tow vehicle! I think towing a boat that size is going to get really old, unless it's to and from cruising grounds once a year.

[htom]

A small aft cabin. Great place for the kids.

[imported_GregW]

Boat Design Quarterly # 26, available at our host online store, has a brief discussion on the this design. A good looking boat indeed.

[ 03-14-2005, 08:49 PM: Message edited by: GregW ]

[Hwyl]

Originally posted by Jack Heinlen:
Is that an aft cabin? I assumed a motor well and stowage.

Nice looking boat. Better have a special tow vehicle! I think towing a boat that size is going to get really old, unless it's to and from cruising grounds once a year.Yes Jack, it's an aft cabin with reversed quarter berths.

From the web page the boat weighs 11000 lbs, so you're talking a very heavy tow,maybe 16,000 when you add the tailer and cruising gear.You may possibly need air brakes and CDL depending on the state.

Also from the web page, you can buy the pre cut parts for $14K

[Steve Paskey]

I can't speak to her seaworthiness, but I do like both this design and the smaller Trailer Sailor 24. Would love to see a third version -- the TS 28? -- with the capabilities of the TS 32, minus the aft cabin. I could see building a boat like that, selling the house, quitting my job, and spending a couple of years cruising coastal waters until I run out of money . . .

[ 03-16-2005, 07:20 AM: Message edited by: Steve Paskey ]

[N. Scheuer]

With that sort of plan, Steve, wouldn't the aft cabin in the 32 make a handy stowage space for all the stuff shorter-term cruisers don't take along?

Moby Nick

[John Bell]

I like it, but it's too bad the main mast tabernacle is mucking up the foot of the vee-berths. Also, where is the mizzen stepped in the yawl version?

Calling it a 'trailer sailer' is a bit of stretch, though... ;)

[ 03-16-2005, 11:27 AM: Message edited by: John Bell ]

[w_cralle]

Has anybody started work on the Trailer Sailer 24?
I built a model of the boat and the lines are beautiful.

[Venchka]

Originally posted by w_cralle:
Has anybody started work on the Trailer Sailer 24?
I built a model of the boat and the lines are beautiful.We want pictures!

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[Dave Williams]

I agree with Steve. Sure like to see a model at around 28 ft. The shorter length would make a big difference in trailoring. She'd still have a lot of room what with the raised deck and leeboards although I'd look long and hard at bilgeboards. Nothing against leeboards; one of my boats is set up that way and I think they have a lot of merit. But if you could arange bilgeboards and still keep the interior clean I think she'd be prettier.

Other thing I'd do (here we go) would be to make the main a fully battened balanced lug (junk). My big dory is set up with junk sails and she's a dream. Don't let anyone tell you they won't go to windward if well rigged and if you've ever had the pleasure of reefing and furling such a rig you may never go back. The mizzen would make an ideal sheeting point for the main and allow total control of sail shape by adjusting the euphroes easily at hand. All sail handling could be done from the cockpit. A little bimini over the steering station in the cockpit and you'd be laughin rain or shine.

I would like such a design a lot. I'm sounding like Wayne. I don't need another boat!

To kindness,
Dave

[Venchka]

Originally posted by Dave Williams:
...I would like such a design a lot. I'm sounding like Wayne. I don't need another boat!

To kindness,
DaveThere you go. After that glowing testamonial for the junk rig, you are making me rethink a few of my own preconceived misconceptions. It's a good thing I don't need another boat.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[seafox]

a ill -ness better than drugs

commonly called " I gotta have another boat" syndrome; ighab ( pronounced IG- hab) has no known cure but treatment for symptoms can include building buying or simply using another boat. suport groups may be joined and can result in mess-abouts

this syndrome occures with greater frequency durring the winter and spring time though no season is safe. boat shows may be a locus of infection but magizines and woodenboat forums may also be infectious vectors

though incurable this condition is not terminal unless combined with a mate who weilds a frying pan

good luck to all those infected

[shoal_draft_fantasies]

Anyone else think the sail area to displacement ratio a bit on the light side at 65sqft / ton?

[w_cralle]

This is more like it! Why dont we all just talk about boats that I especially like. Trailer sailer 24. This is good guys. Keep it up.

P.S. Somebody may also want to start a thread about the B&B princess sharpie.

[Dave Williams]

Shoal Draft,

Interesting question. Just looking at her you could be right. I doubt the mizzen would contribute much drive; probably mostly intended for balance. That is a really nice feature but still doesn't provide much power. Just depends I suppose on where you plan to sail her.

Hmm, a bigger main which is easily reefed?

[Meerkat]

Looking at Stambaugh's cost to build graphs, this boat could hit $50,000 to build! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Venchka]

Originally posted by Meerkat:
Looking at Stambaugh's cost to build graphs, this boat could hit $50,000 to build! :eek: :eek: :eek: That's less than $5/pound. You are probably low. Or does the 11,000 pound figure include water ballast? Either way, I think $5-$10/pound is low.


P.S. Somebody may also want to start a thread about the B&B princess sharpie. Nope. Not me.

One more word on Trailer Sailers...$2,000 for plans for a 20' version. So much for that idea.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[PVanderwaart]

Originally posted by shoal_draft_fantasies:
Anyone else think the sail area to displacement ratio a bit on the light side at 65sqft / ton?Yes. The stat I'm more familar with is SA/D^.667 which works out to 10.35. This compares to about 15 for a conservative cruiser, 20 for pretty hot racer, and 30 for an over-the-top, hang-on-to-your-socks, canting keel racer.

For comparison, Bolger's AS-29 has a SA/D of 15.43.