original plans for the Spray

[G_Diogenes]

Were the original plans for the Spray
ever published. J.Slocum said that some naval types had come by and measured his boat. Were these measurements published in any journal or book, and does anyone have the
publication or copies ?

[Peter Jacobs]

Your best bet is to read "In the Wake of the Spray" by Kenneth Slack. (I found one in the local library) Mr. Slack has done a lifetime of research on the Spray and a lot of work re-creating the plans, which are shown in great detail in the book.

Hope this helps!
-Peter-

[paladin]

...at two or three points during Spray's existence dimensions were taken but no true offsets were ever made or no true lines plans were ever drawn. Several years ago we donated what is probably the most comprehensive documentation consisting of letters, photos and original documents ever assembled to the Peabody museum with the express purpose of setting up a Slocum exhibit. The true dimensions or lines plans are only conjecture. (The Slocum Society)

[Marcio Moreira]

You can purchase the plans from Ken Slack. Look at the Ken's son web page: http://users.bigpound/kristan.slack/

[Marcio Moreira]

Sorry, I missed the url adress:

Kristian Slack home:
http://users.bigpond.com/kristan.slack/

[Dave Fleming]

Paladin, what is the opinion of the Slocum Society on Pete Culler's version, as to authenticity?
Thanks
dave

[paladin]

I do not have drawings from Pete Culler....I have looked at Bruce Roberts "Spray" versions and a lot of poetic license has been used.

[HOWdie]

What of the note made by Walter Teller, "The Voyages of Joshua Slocum", Sheridan House. p. 375 that the spray "was taken from New York to Bridgeport, Connecticut, and, under the supervision of teh Park City Yacht Club, was hauled out of the water and very carefully measured in every wat to secure a satisfactory result. captian Robins produced the model."
Might not this group have a copy of his drawings/notes.

[paladin]

The referenced drawings were not that accurate. The measurements were made to the outside of the wetted planks using a plumb bob and wooden measuring stick. On at least three ocassions similar measurements were made and all vary about 5-7%, that is why I say they are "approximate". In each case the boat was hauled and blocked...but not levelled and the measurements from the waterline were questionable. There is no reference to internal construction or scantlings or the weight of ballast, which was mostly rock and cement. An approximate hull can be made but not one from which stability etc can be accurately determined. We do not know the weight of the non ballasted boat or the amount of ballast or how it was distributed

[NevadaBoy]

WB #21 has a pretty extensive article on the building and sailing of "Scud," the Maynards' Spray Replica. The article includes a sidebar by Weston Farmer in which he tells how he basically re-drew the plans for the Spray. He includes a table of offsets.

Bill Deming

[headonz]

WB #21 has a pretty extensive article on the building and sailing of "Scud," the Maynards' Spray Replica. The article includes a sidebar by Weston Farmer in which he tells how he basically re-drew the plans for the Spray. He includes a table of offsets.

Bill Deming

I have Pete Cullers plans of his Spray and also the offsets produced by Weston Farmer ,published in WB #21.In Petes book he states that they included "improvements" to the original design drawing from the extensive knowledge of the builders involved.

When comparing these offsets with the ones published in WB#21 I can see where there is up to 6" differance in width in some forward frames around stations 2 - 3 , a differance of 1' 1" at LWL , slimmer sections aft by some 4".Although Petes Spray is slightly narower at mid section by 1/14" , has fuller ends and the longer LWL.Also deeper keel by 6" and wider by 2" .Construction details seem to differ from double 3x6" sawn, Petes ,to lamanated 3x2" ,'Scud' with keels at 8"x22" - 6"x8" - 6x16" Pete,Scud,K.Slack.

So which one is closest to the original ,hard to say but Scuds lines were 'worked up' directly from the lines printed in Sailing Alone Around The World and now having completed three circumnavigations and detailed accounts of the last two by present owner Guy Bernardin http://guy.bernardin.free.fr/ can give one a very clear idea of what one can expect if considering a build.Guys site alone has 135 images of Scud from all angles.

A detailed construction diary of a Roberts Spray D/diagonal over strip planking frameless version can be seen here http://spray.heihei.bz/

Probably like so many , having now the knowledge ,skill ,money and time , but no longer the health to build my own can now only spend my time critiuecing the efforts of others ;)

[JimD]

Another link: http://www.joshuaslocumsocietyintl.org/index.htm

[JimJ]

Kristian Slack home:
http://users.bigpond.com/kristan.slack/
All the "users.bigpond.com/????" url have vanished into cyberspace as Bigpond have withdrawn the free 10mb of web space for their clients. They replaced the 10mb with "blogs" with the associated ads. bah.