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S.V. Airlie
11-19-2009, 10:05 AM
Umm. Why do I doubt that 100% of our illustrious Senators have read the healthcare bill they are gonna vote on? How many times has someone gotten into trouble for not reading the fine print on a credit card application and sign the application later only to be caught with his/her pants down?

11-19-2009, 10:07 AM
Did you see this one Jaimie? http://woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105773

I think this is the way it will go and it will be us that pays for it.

Uncle Duke
11-19-2009, 10:26 AM
For an interesting look at the size of the bill:

11-19-2009, 10:35 AM
Whoops, I thought you'd written a 2000 page book during your hiatus from the WBF.

Instead it's landed classes whinning again....oh and how are you.

11-19-2009, 10:38 AM
Every one of those senators have at least a dozen staffers... and every one of those staffers has read the bill, over and over, hundreds of times. Senators delegate this stuff to their staff, who informs them about the key issues. This thing has been the #1 topic in DC for months... do you REALLY think that there's a single senator who doesn't know what the bill provides for?

Nonetheless, the Republicans are going to demand that the bill be read on the floor of the senate.... and if you think it's because they want everyone to be aware of what's in the bill, you're insane.. they just want to delay the vote. So, what will happen? The Democrats will hire a speed-reader, who will take 48 hours to read the bill, during which, a periodic quorum call will keep enough senators on the senate floor (reading the newspaper on their Blackberries and iPhines), resulting in NO productivity.

Yeah, like the Republicans really care what's in the bill. They've said explicitly, time and time again, that no matter WHAT is in it, they are going to vote against it.... the content is irrelevant to them!


11-19-2009, 10:41 AM
And where is that book? Have you figured out how to get it into your computer yet, given that you weren't willing to write it there and save yourself the trouble.

11-19-2009, 11:04 AM
Anyone who wanted to read it could have by now. Anyone who complains they haven't or couldn't simply isn't doing their job.

On the other hand, when they really want you to read a report, they make sure you have an opportunity to read it.


The Starr Report: 336 pages about Clinton getting a blow job.... and no one ever complained they didn't have a chance to read it. :rolleyes:

Brian Palmer
11-19-2009, 11:21 AM
Get over it. It's not a novel. It is double spaced with a 2 inch margin on the left and a 1.5 inch margin on the right. If it was Harry Potter, my 11 year old could read (not aloud) it in a day.


Uncle Duke
11-19-2009, 11:34 AM
Page count is, indeed, meaningless.

Those versed in the typesetting practices of the United States Congress know that the printed version of a bill contains a significant amount of whitespace including non-trivial space between lines, large headers and margins, an embedded table of contents, and large font. For example, consider page 12 of the printed version of H.R. 3962. This page contains fewer than 150 substantive words.
An overall view:

Number of substantive words in H.R. 3962: 234,812 words
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - 257,000 words
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 190,000 words
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – 198,000 words