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StevenBauer
10-31-2009, 10:53 PM
Keep 'em coming. Any more of this one?
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Steven
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Keep 'em coming. Any more of this one?
Steven
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Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
10-31-2009, 11:09 PM
Steven you and I have the same taste I saw that center cockpit and started drooling. I wonder how she's laid out down below. Tim any more shots of her ?
Michael Beckman
10-31-2009, 11:42 PM
Belle is probably the coolest boat on the docks. I've never seen her sailing though.
Bob Cleek
11-01-2009, 02:51 AM
I was up in PT for the first time last month. I noticed the blue plastic tarps underneath all the boats hauled out there in the town yards. What's with that? Is there some rule about it or something?
Paul Pless
11-01-2009, 07:22 AM
I noticed the blue plastic tarps underneath all the boats hauled out there in the town yards. What's with that?Surely its to collect paint chips and dust and drips from bottom paint.
EastCoastChris
11-01-2009, 07:25 AM
There's some beautiful looking boats there :)
rbgarr
11-01-2009, 08:10 AM
Nylla is a Crocker schooner. The owners would stop here for a few days on their summer cruise each year for many years. I introduced myself to them once and they showed me around the boat. The aft cabin had a double bunk across the transom and may have had a head under a seat. The main cabin had a solid bulkhead forward with a u-shaped settee around the folding table. The galley was aft flanking the companionway steps. I didn't see the forepeak but there may have been another bunk or two up there. The woodwork was very fine dense mahogany, nicely finished.
She's been for sale for a while, and has obviously been snapped up by a new PNW owner. I hope she made the trip west okay and that she'll have a good life out there.
Terry Rhoads
11-01-2009, 08:19 AM
I'm pretty sure Nylla was still in Stonington earlier this summer, with a for sale sign on her. Pretty quick trip, probably by truck.
I believe she's ex MacCaboy, a late version of Crocker design #88. Built by Bud McIntosh in 1945. Good pedigree. Unusual to have tiller steering on a schooner of that size.
Lay out and lines plan are in "Sam Crocker's Boats", but they're for the earlier version, which had a rear cockpit.
Terry
oops, cross post with RBGARR
rbgarr
11-01-2009, 08:41 AM
It's so frustrating that there's no index or chronological list of Crocker's designs with design number, year and builder in that book!
Terry Rhoads
11-01-2009, 08:52 AM
It's so frustrating that there's no index or chronological list of Crocker's designs with design number, year and builder in that book!
I know. I had to slog through, page by page, 'til I found her. (p.57-60)
Terry
Paul Pless
11-01-2009, 09:08 AM
I had to slog through, page by page, Slog through... LOL. That happens to me all th etime, its so easy to get 'distracted' and end reading half the catalog.:eek::D
I think I have ADD.
Terry Rhoads
11-01-2009, 09:25 AM
and end reading half the catalog.:eek::D.
I know what you mean.
So what's the ID of the first boat pictured, the light blue cutter? Unusual stern treatment for that type boat.
Terry
Paul Pless
11-01-2009, 09:29 AM
I don't think the staved elliptical stern is too unusual on British style cutters. What I want to know is what's up with the seriously butchered bulwark and deck where the bowsprit houses?
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Terry Rhoads
11-01-2009, 09:41 AM
what's up with the seriously butchered bulwark and deck where the bowsprit houses?
Pranging that bowsprit (or getting it pranged) can result in some serious leverage and damage to the boat. DAMHIKT:mad:
T.
Terry Rhoads
11-01-2009, 11:11 AM
I think the staved elliptical stern is most commonly seen in the US on boats used for hand dredging, or "tonging", typically for oysters. Is that the background of the cutter?
Terry
I dont have any more pictures of that Crocker.
This is an interesting boat. The cockpit is easily 5' deep.
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No telling where this came from.
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Bob Cleek
11-01-2009, 12:27 PM
Surely its to collect paint chips and dust and drips from bottom paint.
Yea, I gathered that, but I've never ever seen it done anywhere else before. Why not just sweep up when you are done? It must be some obsessive environmental thing, I guess.
its hard to sweep gravel.
Paul Girouard
11-01-2009, 12:33 PM
Yea, I gathered that, but I've never ever seen it done anywhere else before. Why not just sweep up when you are done? It must be some obsessive environmental thing, I guess.
Because people DON'T clean up after themselves. Consistently!
Anyone have any idea what that grey hulled double ender is?
Terry Rhoads
11-01-2009, 12:44 PM
I was going to say Crusoe looked like another Crocker, but I see from the Register of Wooden Boats she must be the '34 Mower design.
Great bunch of boats you've got there, Tim.
Terry
Ziska is the blue hulled cutter.
From the Carlotta thread.
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Originally Posted by Stephen http://woodenboat.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2331540#post2331540)
Alright! Back at it again! I was away for a week for the Port Townsend festival aboard my friend's schooner. What a blast that was. Perfect weather and wind. I must say that the star attraction boat to me this year had to be Ziska - the Morecambe Bay Prawner. What a beautiful gaff rigged English workboat it is. I'll get some photos up here sometime. It wasn't in the festival this year - but was out sailing all weekend.
Be aware. Ziska is an Edwardian Yacht built to nobby lines by a nobby yard. Then Ashley rebuilt her, now everything above the deck is Essex smack style. The bulwarks and everything else is new. She is now one of the best looking mongrels around.:D
__________________
It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.
http://woodenboat.com/forum/image.php?u=22616&type=sigpic&dateline=1223730214
rbgarr
11-01-2009, 04:23 PM
This is an interesting boat. The cockpit is easily 5' deep.
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It's probably a Six meter class boat like this one:
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Pretty nice.
Bob Triggs
11-01-2009, 07:03 PM
It is indeed a 6 Meter, owned and raced by Adam Henly of Edensaw Woods.
Bob Triggs
11-01-2009, 07:11 PM
Yea, I gathered that, but I've never ever seen it done anywhere else before. Why not just sweep up when you are done? It must be some obsessive environmental thing, I guess.
Tarps fixed to the ground under your boat are required by The Port of Port Townsend's Best Management Practices rules. They have to be kept clean every day. It is a way to reduce pollution from wood dust and chemical chips, bottom paints etc. The yards here have a drainage system set up beneath ballasted gravel. There is an extensive stormwater runoff catchment system, as well as catchments for the pressure washing stations at the haul outs. Accumulations of wood dust can eventually occlude the system. It is also true that wood dust and wood chips can contribute toxins to groundwater and surface runoff water, which can pollute the adjacent waters of our region. We have endangered species of Steelhead Trout and Pacific Salmon here, especially the annual outmigrating juvenile populations, that benefit from these surface runoff and wastewater handling methods. see:www.portofpt.com
It is indeed a 6 Meter, owned and raced by Adam Henly of Edensaw Woods.
Cool thanks. I suspected it was a meter boat. I lost interest after the universal rule :)
How about some power boats.
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BrianW
11-01-2009, 09:25 PM
More power boats please! ;)
More power boats please! ;)
There are a lot more there, but I will have to take more pix next time.
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The latest of Maken. Seems appropriate considering the latest issue of WB.
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There is one of the old outer planks on the ground and its easily 1-3/4" thick. And thats just the outer planking!
Anyone have any information on the history of this boat? I never see anyone there.
Id like to see an article on her in WB. And an article on Carlotta :)
Willin'
11-01-2009, 10:07 PM
Tarps fixed to the ground under your boat are required by The Port of Port Townsend's Best Management Practices rules. They have to be kept clean every day. It is a way to reduce pollution from wood dust and chemical chips, bottom paints etc. The yards here have a drainage system set up beneath ballasted gravel. There is an extensive stormwater runoff catchment system, as well as catchments for the pressure washing stations at the haul outs. Accumulations of wood dust can eventually occlude the system. It is also true that wood dust and wood chips can contribute toxins to groundwater and surface runoff water, which can pollute the adjacent waters of our region. We have endangered species of Steelhead Trout and Pacific Salmon here, especially the annual outmigrating juvenile populations, that benefit from these surface runoff and wastewater handling methods. see:www.portofpt.com (http://www.portofpt.com)
Err, not trying to pick a fight here, but isn't that paint toxic in the water, too? Why is it treated moreso when on dry land? Surely the wood dust doesn't affect the bio populations adversely.
Just curious. It strikes me that the appearance of preventive/remedial actvity supercedes the reality here.
Who wants the ground to be all covered in bottom paint? I'm all for the blue tarps.
PT sees a lot of boats come and go. The rwould be permanently blue if they didnt do something about it.
When I worked at Torressen Marine in Muskegon they used to power-wash off all the bottom paint and algae as the boats came out. All of that went right back into the Muskegon lake. I am pretty sure they dont do that any more.
Its a matter of too much concentration of toxins in one area. When a boat is sailing along or sits in a slip most of the bottom paint stays on the boat.
RodSBT
11-01-2009, 10:21 PM
http://sv-maitreya.blogspot.com/search/label/Maken
http://sv-maitreya.blogspot.com/search/label/Maken
I saw this earlier:
I found Maken in the Boat Haven yard in Port Townsend. She is undergoing a major refit. The spars were off and several planks were being replaced. She is a true Colin Archer redningskoite (http://www.galeas.no/Colin%20Archer.html) (rescue boat) type in dimensions and paint. I did not find her listed with the Norwegian Redningsselskapet (http://www.nssr.no/), so she may not be official.
Id like to learn more.
Doing a first rate job on this one, it appears:
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Bob Triggs
11-02-2009, 03:02 PM
Err, not trying to pick a fight here, but isn't that paint toxic in the water, too? Why is it treated moreso when on dry land? Surely the wood dust doesn't affect the bio populations adversely.
Just curious. It strikes me that the appearance of preventive/remedial actvity supercedes the reality here.
Just read it over and over and over...:rolleyes:
BETTY-B
11-02-2009, 08:18 PM
This guy was my neighbor for several years. He did an incredible job on that boat. And never launched it! Totally restored and it's been for sale for a long time now. The only thing changing is the price going down. Ten years ago that would have been sold in a heart beat. Now a beauty like that just sits unsold.
DAN
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BETTY-B
11-02-2009, 08:24 PM
These boats are owned by shipwrigths that work right there in Boat Haven in PT. One of the shipwrights is from back East and it is he who shipped the light blue one out here. And I cant remember the year, but it is old. When I heard it, I remember thinking that was a long time before BETTY-B. Which was built in '33, so....
DAN
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BETTY-B
11-02-2009, 08:30 PM
This guy is a sailmaker in town. I think he may have built that boat himself. Moved aboard and never left the dock again.
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BETTY-B
11-02-2009, 08:38 PM
I believe TOADSTOOL was designed and built by Bill Garden.
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Bobcat
11-02-2009, 09:22 PM
I believe TOADSTOOL was designed and built by Bill Garden.
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That's correct
Whats the story of Maken? is she an original or not?
BETTY-B
11-02-2009, 10:35 PM
Supposedly. I forget the story. Something like it made it's way to England during the war and was lost to time, ended up in PT. How's that? :DI know who to call tomorrow and ask.
I know the guy has done an incredible amount of work to it. And, last I heard, was just making more money to do the next round on it.
There were tons of hundred plus year old trunnels taken out of it when some planks were replaced. I have one right here.
DAN
I speak in ignorance here, but I liked the look of the "Toadstool" the best.
That stern on Toadstool looks like a molded piece of steel or aluminum or something. Very unusual.
That grey hulled boat has a British look to it.
rbgarr
11-03-2009, 02:44 AM
More on Toadstool, which IIRC belonged to Wm Garden also: http://www.zeroyachts.com/toadstool.htm
Supposedly. I forget the story. Something like it made it's way to England during the war and was lost to time, ended up in PT. How's that? :DI know who to call tomorrow and ask.
I know the guy has done an incredible amount of work to it. And, last I heard, was just making more money to do the next round on it.
There were tons of hundred plus year old trunnels taken out of it when some planks were replaced. I have one right here.
DAN
I am suprised she isnt under cover now.
BETTY-B
11-05-2009, 02:35 AM
Ooops! I forgot to call. I just wrote it in my notes for tomorrow.
The other cover was a rental. It was needed elsewhere. Err whatever...
DAN
rbgarr
11-05-2009, 12:58 PM
More photos here of the Crocker schooner Nylla: http://www.davidjonesclassics.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=1909131&checked_boats=1909131&hosturl=davidjones&&ywo=davidjones&&ybw=&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=4104&url=
Terry Rhoads
11-05-2009, 02:29 PM
Wow! Gorgeous interior in Nylla. The Crocker book says Bud McIntosh built the hull, but the interior was done by a cabinet maker.
And that boat on the other side of the float looks pretty nice, too.;)
Terry
SScoville
11-05-2009, 08:27 PM
Got any more of the houseboat behind this one? That looks like a Devlin Millie Hill. http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/hoehnt/IMG_3879.jpg
Sorry. All the pictures I took are posted.
SteveInSeattle
09-21-2011, 12:51 AM
Toadstool is an unreal creation. I've studied plans for well over 25 years and she stand above everything else I've seen or studied. She along with Oceanus changed the course of my career. I called Bill Garden (an old acquaintance of my Grandfather's), asking for advice as I pursued my career as a naval architect. I was an art student at the time - fascinated with FLLW architecture and Bill's Naval architecture and followed his advice. I'll never design like Mr. Garden did.
I hope to own Toadstool, or Mist one day. Oceanus is unfortunately gone. If Toadstool's owner reads this and would consider parting with her, please send me a message.
Steve - on Bainbridge Island.
Bobcat
09-21-2011, 09:43 AM
What happened to Oceanus?
purri
09-21-2011, 11:58 PM
I believe TOADSTOOL was designed and built by Bill Garden.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/hoehnt/IMG_3910.jpg Featured in an old issue abt 86 of WB.
johnw
09-22-2011, 12:05 AM
I speak in ignorance here, but I liked the look of the "Toadstool" the best.
Built around a Thunderbird keel. Fast boat.
James McMullen
09-22-2011, 12:58 AM
What happened to Oceanus?
Broken up in Anacortes years ago. But some of it was salvaged. My sandpaper storage drawers, complete with lovely dolphin-shaped ventilation cutouts in them, are ex-Oceanus. I've even got a few more drawers left over.
Bob Triggs
09-25-2011, 04:29 PM
Got any more of the houseboat behind this one? That looks like a Devlin Millie Hill. http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/hoehnt/IMG_3879.jpg
This Boat belongs to master shipwright Chris Chase of the Port Townsend Shipwright's Co-Operative. I believe it was built after WW2, a replica of a French fishing boat. He was telling me that he once had 16 guests for a party below decks. Hey just finished partial replanking, painting etc. Hey built the house for pacific northwest waters. I think it is for sale.
Gerarddm
09-25-2011, 10:41 PM
I like that first powerboat photo, looks like a cartoon tug.
Tarp requirements are everywhere in Puget Sound, I think. I know Dunato's yard in Seattle uses them religiously, at least.
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