Michael Storer Talk at Clint Chase Boatbuilder

[Clinton B Chase]

Invitation to a Talk by Boat Designer Michael Storer

At Clint Chase Boatbuilder, 25 Deblois Street, Portland, Maine

Sunday Nov 1st @ 11am-1pm, Bring Boats and Questions

After some food and chat, Michael will talk to us about making our boats better...

At very little cost and only slightly more labour it is possible to improve the performance of our cruising and recreational boats.

• Why is performance important?
• Simple tricks and tips in the areas of rigging, construction, building of sails, spars and centreboards and rudders.
• Most people cannot see the difference when looking at the boat, but anyone sailing it will notice immediately.

Michael gives a this free presentation at Clint Chase Boatbuilder
Come Boating afterwards!

Directions to Clint Chase’s Boat Shop can be found at Google Maps just insert 25 Deblois Street. We are right off Brighton Ave. Heading West out of town you turn right at the “H” sign for the hospital. If you pass Brighton Medical Center you’ve gone to far. We are tan with Purple trim house with lots of boats in the yard.

[Canoez]

Dang. That's just not fair. I'll be building canoes on Saturday morning.

[Clinton B Chase]

Notice time change...now on Sunday. Just for you Canoez!

[Hwyl]

Shouldn't this have a sticky

Edit, thanks Scot

[David G]

Y'all have a great time. His talk at my shop was a big hit.

[rbgarr]

Can't make it Sunday. Have a good time.

[Clinton B Chase]

We'll post pictures and highlights.

--Clint

[Vince Brennan]

Bloody Hell.... too far to drive to, but too good to miss!

WHY did I move to Philly??


Enjoy!

[StevenBauer]

I'll be there. Can I bring anything?


Steven

[Thorne]

Ask him about letting dogs run about in his boats while raising sail...:D

http://andrewlinn.com/090918_timothy/16shift.jpg

[Daniel Noyes]

Hi Clint
I was thinking Saturday.

I am very interested and will try to make it up Sunday.

you mention sailing plans, whats the schedule and hopes for sailing session?

[Bill R]

I'll see you Sunday. Need me to bring anything?

[Clinton B Chase]

Looks like we'll have a small crowd. I've gotten to know Michael the last few days and I'll tell you, we're in for a treat tomorrow. (Not a trick, but a treat...you can bring your kids leftover candy...that'd be a trick for them and a treat for us. I digress....)

[Hwyl]

I even remembered to change my clocks

[Clinton B Chase]

Good point!!!!!!!!!

[Canoez]

Sadly, life has intervened in my plans for the day. :( (Trip to the Dr. this AM with a young 'un - things are OK, fortunately.) Hope you all have a great time today and hope to hear about it!

Bumpitty-Bump.

[rbgarr]

Thanks to Clint and Michael for your well attended event. I was glad I could make it.

Michael is an excellent speaker and highlighted important and valuable tips about small boat construction, handling and rigging (particularly the PD Racer and Goat Island Skiff). The explanation of how Australian small boat construction developed versus US methods was especially intriguing: lightweight plywood advances there, fg production here, both driven by market forces.

[StevenBauer]

Yes, many thanks to Michael and Clint for a fun and informative afternoon. After the talk some of us headed down to the boatlaunch at East End Beach for a little messabout. I brought our Nutshell Pram, there were two of Michaels designs, the PDRacer and a rowing skiff the Compass Project kids built.Clint brought his Faering, Drake. Dan brought his mini-bagger, there was an Echo Bay Dory Skiff and a neat little sailing canoe. I didn't bring my camera (but Gareth brought his) but I did get some cell phone pics.

Puddle Duck Racer:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1504.jpg?t=1257119875

Drake:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1527.jpg?t=1257119913


Echo Bay Dory Skiff:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1528.jpg?t=1257119986


Bagger:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1529.jpg?t=1257120019


PDR:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1530.jpg?t=1257120044


http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1531.jpg?t=1257120093

[Bill R]

Ditto what rbgarr said.

Few pics from today's event:

Michael Storer Skiff, Hull #1 built by the Compass Project

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/ryallworks/MS%2011-09/MS11-1-09003.jpg

[Bill R]

Michael & Clint:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/ryallworks/MS%2011-09/MS11-1-09009.jpg

some of the group:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/ryallworks/MS%2011-09/MS11-1-09014.jpg

[Bill R]

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/ryallworks/MS%2011-09/MS11-1-09011.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/ryallworks/MS%2011-09/MS11-1-09012.jpg

[StevenBauer]

The PDRacer really moved along:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1534.jpg?t=1257120565


http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1535.jpg?t=1257120598

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1542.jpg?t=1257120641


The sailing canoe:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1543.jpg?t=1257120664


http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1546.jpg?t=1257120696


http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1610.jpg?t=1257120719

[StevenBauer]

It was an unusually warm day for this time of year, about 60f.

Clint in Dan's Bagger:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1611.jpg?t=1257120796


http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/2009%20pics/11-01-09_1612.jpg?t=1257120838

Gareth got some great shots, I'm sure he'll be along to share soon. :)

Thanks again, Clint and Michael.

Steven

[David G]

Thanks all for the fotos. Y'all had a great day for sailing!

[Hwyl]

Here are some of my pictures.

The group in Clint's immaculate shop

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0581.jpg

The PD racer after Mik had wrapped the sail around the mast and boom.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0584.jpg

The owner of this boat, built it 25 years ago

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0591.jpg

Holly let her Dad borrow the dinghy.

Storer skiff in background
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0592.jpg
Interior of the PD racer

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0593.jpg

[Hwyl]

Dan Noyes and Ray Frechette set out to conquer the world

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0596.jpg

Steven was seriously looking out for everyone's welfare in the ultra low tide

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0601.jpg

Dan built this beauty when he was a mere teenager

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0602.jpg

The modest designer himself sails the PD racer

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0610.jpg

Clint checking on proceedings

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0611.jpg

[Clinton B Chase]

Thanks to all who came. We had 23 in attendance including the host and the speaker. Michael really gave us new perspective in everything he discussed today and I've had wonderful talks with him in addition to today's talk. He is a breathe of fresh air and clear thinking and a great guy whom I've enjoyed getting to know (and my daughter newly from China who loved hearing MIK talk in Chinese to her).

Thanks MIK!

I'll post the key points very soon.

Cheers,
Clint

[Hwyl]

Boats were really flying.
Actually they were checking us out and looked deservedly jealous

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0612.jpg

Clint tries the cool sailing canoe

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0616.jpg

Michael (BoatMik) rowing his own skiff. I rowed it, a seriously sweet yet utilitarian boat
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0618.jpg

Sometimes when the water gets really shallow there are no elegant solutions

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/foreguy/100_0621.jpg

[Clinton B Chase]

I saw the bottom of the PDR and though 'oh @#$%^&' this is not a good way to end the great day. Then I saw him standing in the knee high water. We had a drainer today a full moon low/high, about 10' now but an 11' tide in the a few days (lag time).

Clint

[Hwyl]

I thought of not posting the picture, but a great smile and the close up of the Oz rudder changed my mind.

[Clinton B Chase]

Your photos are great, Gareth. Thanks a bunch. Let's get a PDR racing class going.

Clint

[BobW]

Looks like a really GREAT day! Thanks for all the pictures.

Bob

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Funny I was out sailing at exactly the same time as you guys. I called Steven to razz him that I was out in Tidbit and Talisman was on the hard. He said Oh but I am out sailing and proceeded to describe all the lovely boats and conditions, which were surprisingly similar to what I was experiencing. Although it does look like you guys had a great time.

And yes clint does have the neatest shop I've ever seen ( Ive been there lol )

[Boatmik]

Ray Frechette and I were musing about how Clint's clamps are not covered with epoxy!

I will eventually put the Portland, OR talk up on the net once I sit down and work out where to put such a large file. I know how to make it streaming, but just need to work out where to host the file and get enough fast internet time to upload it. (also have to change it over to MP3 format rather than the large WAV file it is now).

I am currently sitting on a Greyhound (bus, not dog) heading up to Brooklin - which I wasn't quite expecting to get to, but Carl Cramer is being kind enough to pick me up from Bangor. Will be a bit of a rush to get back to Boston for my flight out on Wednesday but will be OK.

I have been amazed and happy during this whole trip in each place to meet so many smart and interesting people ... wooden boaters very frequently (almost ubiquitously) are just that. It is hard to pick out a particular highlight because almost all of it has been highlights.

Big thanks to the PDRacer community and Duckworks for getting the ticket together for me to come over, also the builders of my boats and just friends I have made on the net who also helped out with contributions of various types.

I did start a blog to describe the places and things but it got too big to handle a week or two ago so i have just been posting heavily commented pics on flickr - Mystic, Conroe Messabout, Lake Timothy Messabout with the Coots in Oregon (you can't have too many Portlands - the two I have experienced have been pretty nice), the Kokepelli Cruise down Lake Powell in Utah, .... the UFO museum in Roswell (my brother made me promise that I would go to at least one crazy museum - but the Roswell one was actually quite interesting with a bit from both sides of the argument)

The Blog covers a fair bit of it ...
http://www.storerboatplans.com/wp

But the pics on Flickr covers everything. I am a bit of a manic picture taker, largely because I've read about all these places and wished there were more pics for ME to look at. So I do try to make a good record for others who might feel the same.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/boatmik/sets/

Oh, and basic resources that come out of the lecture material are here.
http://www.storerboatplans.com/wp/?page_id=168

Best wishes
MIK

[Thorne]

The Flickr pics and commentary are brilliant, Mik -- thanks again for taking all those photos and working out the great writeups.

[Clinton B Chase]

Ray Frechette and I were musing about how Clint's clamps are not covered with epoxy!


MIK

"Cleanliness is next to Godliness"

And those clamps went through boat school, too! My Carhart pants do not reflect this cleanliness, however. They pretty well stand up on their own!!!

[Daniel Noyes]

Clint, Michael
thanks so much for a great event!

is there a copy of the talk available I would like to catch the section I missed

lots of fun racing around the launch ramp at the promenade... it was good we had shoal draft craft.
Thanks
Dan

[Clinton B Chase]

Dan, MIK did say he'd be getting the talk up on his Oz forum.

Clint

[Hwyl]

Dan, I didn't realise you were Dan Noyes, we could have chatted more. Your Bagger was awesome.

[Geoff C]

Clint-

Thanks for hosting, I had a great time, never thought I'd be out sailing in November in Maine, but hey, it was perfect.

Here are my photos, most of them have been described already:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3491/4069689407_3b08b2d62f_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2779/4070451490_7d0312837f_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2534/4070447510_ceaac9256d_b.jpg

Beautiful faering, Clint

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2591/4069695375_783127a427_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2645/4070458988_746ea6621d_b.jpg

[Geoff C]

Eric Risch's Echo Bay Dory Skiff, still looks like new after a quarter century:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2702/4069701743_757d8997e5_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2728/4070464862_1ee3519b06_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2701/4069707283_82f0b263f0_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2796/4070471992_cc3b0ecb9f_b.jpg

[Geoff C]

Dan and Ray on the Bagger:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2478/4070478738_f19f69dc58_b.jpg

The PDR shows its stuff:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2678/4070481776_b51abb2f2f_b.jpg

Clint goes wing-and-wing in my Yakaboo2:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3487/4069726625_9a5e3337b0_b.jpg

The BoatMik himself gives the push-pull rudder system a try:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2640/4070489592_76af311066_b.jpg

Thanks again for the very interesting and informative talk, Michael, and we hope you won't wait another two years to come back.

[Clinton B Chase]

Eric Risch's Echo Bay Dory Skiff is a great boat. Sails very sweetly. Needs some fast foils and a lug sail, however.

Thanks for photos, Geoff. Geoff's sailing canoe was self-designed and delightful to sail.

---Clint

[Boatmik]

I will put the talk I did in Portland up - it was a bit more comprehensive. But I will have to work out how to do a few things ... the conversion to MP3 will be easy I think, but I have to find a place to host such large files.

I've worked out how to make them streaming.

But it will probably have to wait till i am back in OZ

MIK

[Boatmik]

Hi Geoff,

I didn't realise ... how close is your boat to the original Yakaboo?

I know the sliding centreboard is not there and the rudder is a nice addition (!) but is the hull pretty similar?

MIK

[Boatmik]

Clint, Did you want to paste up the summary you wrote of the talk and posted on my forum here as well?

MIK

[Ray Frechette Jr]

"Cleanliness is next to Godliness"

And those clamps went through boat school, too! My Carhart pants do not reflect this cleanliness, however. They pretty well stand up on their own!!!There is something about a pristine shop I have a hard time trusting...

First thing I noticed was the absolute absence of any dust!

In fact one fo the first things I said, was
I didn't get home 'till 'bout 11:00pm"Wow!""Whers all the dust?"

Clint had a Jet Dust collector hanging form the ceiling which had less dust on it than my Delta did when I first hung it from the shop.

I was impressed, and a bit envious, But I am not likely going to take up the same ways myself.

[rbgarr]

One of the things I'd look for were I to have someone build/repair/refinish a boat is a clean shop. It takes less time to keep things in their place and clean as you work than it does to search (and not find, thus use the wrong tool), struggle with a dirty tool or workspace than not. It's a good management habit and often interpreted as a sign of respect for the customer. I've seen potential customers walk out when they see that the paint shop is a mess, for example. The best shops I've seen have regular daily cleanup and weekly (rotating) assigned responsibilities for machinery, blades etc.

[Boatmik]

Assigned responsibilities

Monday - Me
Tuesday - Me
Wednesday - Me
Thursday ...

I have seen beautiful work come out of less than pristine shops too ... and a lot of nothing come out of compulsively tidy ones.

I guess ... by their works you will know them!

MIK

[Clinton B Chase]

My shop is just over a 2-years old. Glad you were able to see the shop and I'd be happy to share tips and tricks to keeping a shop clean. For us, it is essential that dust and fumes do not get into the house which is attached to the shop. I have two small kids and a wife who are more important to me than anything I do in the shop. This talk was a great chance for me to make the place look pristine. Nothing like the pressure of having guests to get a place looking sharp. Glad it was a nice place to spend a few hours. I sure enjoyed sitting back and relaxing!

Clint

[Clinton B Chase]

Monday, November 2, 2009
Michael Storer Talk and Messabout at Clint Chase Boatbuilder

From my blog clintchaseboatbuilder.blogspot.com

On November 1st I was pleased and honored to introduce Michael Storer, an Australian Boat Designer reputed for his simple, elegant, and approachable boats, to a group of 21 members from the wooden boat community in Maine, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire. Some knew of Storer's work, others have built his boats, and many knew him as an important name and wanted to learn more about the man and his message. His message was simple: that we can vastly improve our boats by paying a great deal more attention to three areas: the centerboard and rudder foils, the spars and sail, and the hull itself. With regards to the foils, Michael convinced is audience that it is the way they are made -- with care towards fair, accurate foil shape and towards a smooth surface -- that most matters. Michael has taken research in optimal foil design and applied these foils to boats that, without them, would not sail nearly as well upwind and would be much trickier to handle. These foils are flat in the middle, thin for reducing weight and wood use, and closely approximate the hydrodynamics of a true NACA shape, without the expense and fuss and awkwardness of a wing-shaped foil in a square centerboard box or rocking around on a flat work bench during shaping.

With regards to spars and sails, Michael's point was clear that the most important aspect of spars is that they flex and bend in the right way, the right amount. Spar bend is critical to the ability of a sail rig to absorb a gust, reducing heeling and putting the energy into forward momentum. The sail need not be a 600-dollar racing sail, but a simple polytarp will do cut with round to create the draft necessary to create power in the sail. His PDR Oz boats are a case in point. They all sail with polytarp sails, about a $30 dollar investment. And because they all use the same cloth, they can race against each other without the "upping the ante" attitude that has cause racing to be more expensive and less accessible to more and more people around the world.

(MIK: The polysail is not as good as a sail made from proper cloth but it is cheap allowing for experimentation and cutting the cost of something like a PDRacer substantially. But nice boats deserve nice sails. However the flexibility aspect is important for all sails.

(MIK: Additionally I think a lot of the discussion about best performing sails is misguided because the lessons of the last 100 years or so of competitive racing have not been applied equally when sails meet. The single most important is controlling twist. A gaff or lug rig where twist is controlled correctly will outsail a bermudan rig where the twist is not controlled. The two traditional rigs that control twist to some degree are the triangular sprit boomed sail and the balance lug. The lug tends to be favoured in storerboats because of the reefing ability, but the sprit is liked for its simplicity and incredibly rapid setup)

Interestingly, Michael left the hull out for last. He says the hull is less important because of the way quality foils and spars can make a good boat go faster than it should. The PD racer is a square hull and wide flat bottom. As evidenced by the messabout after the talk, it does go beautifully. Why? Because of the foils and spars, but also because the hull is light. Michael discussed the keys to making a hull light, using light plywood in a hull that is reinforced the right way, using stringers, fillets, butt joints, and interior compartments that create a light, stiff structure with nothing more than 6mm plywood. Fiberglass is heavy and Michael stressed that fiberglassing adds weight with little gain in structural integrity or even abrasion resistance. Most boats being glassed with 6oz cloth do not need it for structure and are not being used in such a way they it is needed to protect the boat from abrasion. Cloth as light as 2-oz cloth will be enough. He said that builders have also succumbed to the "upping the ante" mentality, trying to do things better and better and better than anyone else, ending up with heavier boats and poorer performance.

Australia saw another 25-plus years of wooden boat development that America and Europe did not see because of the way that market forces drove us to Fiberglass boats much sooner than they did in Oz. The result is much further refinement of glued-plywood construction and testing in the small boat racing circuits around the country. We are just now learning here in the States, thanks to Michael's generous knowledge sharing and this trip he has made to the USA.

(MIK: Australia and New Zealand had a huge amount of rivalry that helped things move forward too with at least half the work being done by the Kiwis. South Africa also did a similar thing with some of its indigenous classes)

Afterwards we enjoyed some great rowing and sailing off Portland's East End. We had a PDR, an MSD Rowboat hull #1, my Drake Rowboat hull #1, a mini-bagger, a sailing canoe, a Nutshell Pram. Pictures of the messabout can be seen at the WoodenBoat Forum and at Michael Storer's own Oz Forum:

http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2372819#post2372819
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f169/

Folks will see many of Michael's philosophies played out at Clint Chase Boatbuilder in the Spruce-Composite oars, Birdsmouth masts, and soon foils, tillers, and other components made to improve the performance of customers' existing dories, skiffs, dinghies, and utility boats.

Posted by Clint Chase Boatbuilder at 5:58 PM

[Eric Risch]

Hello gang,


I am new to the forum. It was great to play with our little boats after hearing all the cool things we can do to tweak performance. The message I heard from Michael was: keep it simple, but do your homework and build it right. My little Echo Bay Dory Skiff has had the benefit of 25 seasons of tweaking and modifying from my original design concept--all have been the result of trial and error and learning from others who've been there before. I also wanted to give credit to the construction of her original hull as it was built by a friend in a small boat shop. He needed some work and I had no shop at the time. He taught me a great deal while working on the original boat. That hull has remained wicked tight over all those years so he did great work. He however so hated epoxy that I became “Mr. Grinder” for untold hours feathering the goo. Over time I rebuilt essentially the entire interior construction, rig, rudder, and sails as my learning curve progressed in sailing her. Most of that reconstruction took place about 18-20 years ago when I finally had a shop. I even (painfully) chopped the sheer down as I wanted a prettier shape...which meant all that joiner-work had to be built from scratch...again. With Clint’s encouragement, I recently redesigned a dedicated rowing version of the boat for the Compass Project. Needless to say, due to Michael’s most interesting talk, we likely all have yet another list of “tweaks” to apply to our little boats!

Eric

[Geoff C]

Hi Geoff,

I didn't realise ... how close is your boat to the original Yakaboo?

I know the sliding centreboard is not there and the rudder is a nice addition (!) but is the hull pretty similar?

MIK

Hi, Mik-

The original Yakaboo is 17' long and 40" wide. I made a 9/10ths scale version of it that is 15' 6" long and 36" wide. I chose that size for easy cartopping and because I could get the whole boat, including bulkheads, out of four sheets of 4 mm Okoume ply (only 10 lb./ sheet).

I chose to use the Yakaboo as inspiration because it had fairly firm bilges and sufficient rocker to tack well (W. P. Stephens knew what it was all about). I squared off the stern somewhat to take the rudder and to give it a little more tracking when used as a double paddle canoe, otherwise the hull is pretty similar, given the change to plywood construction. It goes like the wind with two people paddling it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2764/4073117191_37027ee2e8_o.jpg

In the future I may make a full size Yakaboo complete with batwing sails, or I may scale the present design up 50% to make a 3 man sailing canoe that can also be used for camp cruising, somewhat like William Atkin's XLCR.

[Ray Frechette Jr]

One of the things I'd look for were I to have someone build/repair/refinish a boat is a clean shop. It takes less time to keep things in their place and clean as you work than it does to search (and not find, thus use the wrong tool), struggle with a dirty tool or workspace than not. It's a good management habit and often interpreted as a sign of respect for the customer. I've seen potential customers walk out when they see that the paint shop is a mess, for example. The best shops I've seen have regular daily cleanup and weekly (rotating) assigned responsibilities for machinery, blades etc.

I agree by and large, But there is clean and there is clean.

I have walked my share of shopsin the state and Clints is without question the most immaculate I have ever seen.



Hodgkins yard, Morris, and many othewrs have neat and tidy, But I could n't spy a speck of ducst.

I wcertainly was impressed, and I am not criticising Clint. Just overwhelmed by it.

And if ti is what he wants I don'rt argue afainst it. My commnet was light hearted and toungue in cheek.

[The Bigfella]

Great thread. Good to see you behaving yourself over there Mik. We didn't think any more Aussies would be allowed into the country after the Dingo visited.

[David G]

Dingo is the main reason we decided to organize Mik's visit. Initially, we thought that Mik might be too polite, self-effacing, and soft-spoken to put on a good show during a N. American Chataqua. After Dingo visited, we figured those Aussies might be a bit of alright after all :p Of course we did worry that we might have to supply translators at every stop :rolleyes: Turns out Mik speaks better American than I do (and certainly better than Chuck L. - he speaks Texan ;)).

[Clinton B Chase]

And MIK speaks Chinese which came in handy!

Clint

[Hwyl]

Hello gang,


I am new to the forum.

Nice to meet yo Eric. I hope that tire got you home.

[Ray Frechette Jr]

OK Clint,

I have been stewing and pndering for a few days.

Your shop condition is truly inspiring.

While Iwill probably never come close to that level of clean, I can respect it and very likely we can all learn something from it.

How about starting a new thread on the building and repair board as to shop cleanliness techniques?

[Clinton B Chase]

After a nice drive to Logan Airport, I had the honor of deporting MIK...I mean dropping him off fo his flight home. Definitely a bit sad to see him go, but so happy to have gotten to know him and I believe I speak on all of our behalves! I have to say that I'm really happy that the WB crew were so good to him. They take care of good folks up there. Happy travels to BoatMIK from all here in Maine and the States! We look forward to having you back.

[Hwyl]

Clint, I thanked you on Sunday but wanted to formally thank you again, for the organisation and hosting of this. I had not realised that you also drove Mik to Logan, that was above and beyond. Please also thank the person with whom Mik stayed (the GIS owner) whose name I've forgotten in my dotage.

Would you do me a favor and also convey thanks to your good lady wife, (Elli) she was a consumate trooper to put up with all this, especially given your new baby.

Many thanks, I know I speak for everyone who was there and I hope, everyone who has read this thread.

[Canoez]

Clint - thanks for post #51 for those of us who were AWOL. :D

[StevenBauer]

Well said, Gareth. Thanks, Clint. And Mik.


Steven

[Eric Risch]

Nice to meet yo Eric. I hope that tire got you home.


Yes, thank you for asking. I figured that original flat tire wasn't going to go anywhere while we played with the boats. Fortunately, the spare got me home in good shape and now I got my snows on. I again wanted to thank everyone who assisted me that afternoon after the outing.

Eric

[rbgarr]

I was going to get new studded snows but the starter fried yesterday... and there went that money! Watch out for me when driving on ice this winter! :D

It was nice to see your shop all set up Clint. I hadn't seen the finished product, etc. since Steven started it a while ago. Nice skylights!

Your "cousin-to-Dancing Feather" dory looks like it will be a good one.

[Clinton B Chase]

Thanks guys. MIK is back in the land of OZ.

I appreciate all of your comments and look forward to doing this again next year with another speaker (TBD) and a Fall Messabout.

--Clint

[dpeter]

Just a quick thank you to Clint and MIK and everyone in
attendance last Sunday. This is my first post on
the forum and I've been lurking for far too long!

It was a great pleasure to spend a day with such a
wonderful group of folks and I am looking forward to
another outing!

Peter

p.s. My shoes have finally dried out ...

[Daniel Noyes]

Looking forward to the Clint Chase audio interview with Michael Storer.

[Boatmik]

Not an interview ... but might be interesting!

Howdy,

The first podcast of my US talk on boat design and building is up on the net. It is part 1 of three.

Michael Storer's US talks on wooden boat building and design - Part 1 (http://www.storerboatplans.com/wp/?cat=240)

This page also has links to my interviews with furled sails a year or so ago.

You will notice that under the title of the PAGE there has been a drop down menu implemented that allows you to browse the main subject areas of the posts. Very convenient.

The talk has been edited, so it can be a little bit choppy - I am an amateur at this! But if there is anything you have trouble understanding I can add a sketch or diagram to the article if needed. Just leave a comment on the site.

As most of you know the tour was sponsored and organised by the PDRacer community, Duckworks, and the broader Messabout community - I thank them again! Not to mention Clint Chase who took care of me in the other Portland!

Hope you enjoy it!

Michael Storer

[Boatmik]

Second USA talk is up. It is a bit more about construction.

Michael Storer's second USA Podcast on boat building and design.
http://www.storerboatplans.com/wp/?cat=240

Gee the new website template is working well. I can have all the podcasts appear on the same page very easily - so you can access all from this one page.

MIK

[Clinton B Chase]

YEahhhhhh!

MIK, did you record the one at my shop?

Just a note to all who came and those who are interested, I do plan to to do another talk with a designer-builder next year and a Messabout. It will be in September. Michael has started a trend and we have big shoes to fill. Thanks again, Michael. That was a great day.

[Boatmik]

Howdy Clint,

The one at your shop was too faint. I don't know what was different. But the talk at the other Portland was more comprehensive and covered all the same steps.

MIK

[Boatmik]

The third talk on boat design and building is up.

It proposes a reason why Australian designers such as Iain Oughtred, B and B and me might have a different attitude that makes our boats different from Northern hemisphere designers.

Podcast mp3 by Michael Storer of Wooden boat design and construction. Part 3 of 3 (http://www.storerboatplans.com/wp/?cat=240)

Next time there will be fewer words from me when I put one of the interviews I made while I travelled around the USA. Maybe Clint Chase, maybe Chuck Leinweber or the folks at the Columbia River Maritime Museum.

Best wishes
Michael

[Daniel Noyes]

Thanks Mik
I opened your talk in another window and am listening to it as I read through the forum :)

[Boatmik]

That's a nice use of technology!